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September 10, 2023, 10:09:55 PM
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Embracing Bitcoin represents a step towards financial liberation, where you determine the fate of your money, not faceless or third party institutions. for those out there who still have doubts about Bitcoin, I think it's high time you reconsider where you place your funds. Bitcoin, with its decentralized and transparent nature, is a compelling choice.
since you are new to this forum (created account this year) then you might not heard this many times that banking has most issues than crypto wallet.
the only problem in bitcoin network when there are congestion that mostly happened in bull market.
but aside from that? I think this is much faster and economical comparing to regular fiat or banking using.

An even bigger problem is that even if banks have more problems, we still need them and will use them to some extent, we can't stop using banks as long as fiat is still in use is our main currency. You're still using your bank to buy bitcoin, which you use to pay more daily bills.

In my opinion, nothing is perfect, everything has pros and cons. Furthermore, the disadvantages you mentioned about bitcoin are not too big a problem if you use bitcoin to hold long-term to make a profit.
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Embracing Bitcoin represents a step towards financial liberation, where you determine the fate of your money, not faceless or third party institutions. for those out there who still have doubts about Bitcoin, I think it's high time you reconsider where you place your funds. Bitcoin, with its decentralized and transparent nature, is a compelling choice.
since you are new to this forum (created account this year) then you might not heard this many times that banking has most issues than crypto wallet.
the only problem in bitcoin network when there are congestion that mostly happened in bull market.
but aside from that? I think this is much faster and economical comparing to regular fiat or banking using.
Actually, it's a matter of speed, not a big concern for Bitcoin or Bank fiat holders. Digital transactions of our money at the bank are also quite fast. but when we make digital fiat transactions, we actually only move cash from bank account 1 to another bank account. actually, we don't hold the money, we just leave our money in the bank.
while Bitcoin transactions, we have full control over the Bitcoins we own. it's in our wallet and we own it. no other party will manage our finances with Bitcoin.
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Embracing Bitcoin represents a step towards financial liberation, where you determine the fate of your money, not faceless or third party institutions. for those out there who still have doubts about Bitcoin, I think it's high time you reconsider where you place your funds. Bitcoin, with its decentralized and transparent nature, is a compelling choice.
since you are new to this forum (created account this year) then you might not heard this many times that banking has most issues than crypto wallet.
the only problem in bitcoin network when there are congestion that mostly happened in bull market.
but aside from that? I think this is much faster and economical comparing to regular fiat or banking using.
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When you are storing your funds in the bank, keep in mind that government and legal authorities have access to your funds. You aren't the controller anymore of your funds. Bitcoin is the full reverse of the fiat system. If you store your funds into a non-custodial wallet means you have full control of your funds. You are your bank in this scenario. Bitcoin gives us financial freedom, we can spend and store our way. Sadly we can't ignore fiat as well due to our daily needs. Still, Bitcoin hasn't adapted globally and does not enable making payment everywhere.

I can't agree more.  In addition with Bitcoin, there is a possibility of making huge profits when the market goes in an uptrend unlike putting our money in the Bank where the value is depreciating due to inflation even though the bank gives interest but it is very small to make up for the devaluated value of fiat money over time.

One more thing, since banks have the sole access to the funds, if we decide to make a full withdrawal of our funds, but it exceeds the threshold of instant transfer, we need to wait for the approval and confirmation of the bank to be able to move our money and that is where Bitcoin shines brightly since with Bitcoin, we can move our funds anytime, anywhere we wanted.

This is true for the people who have a reasonable holding strategy and don't try to increase their Bitcoin holdings by trading it back and forth. Usually nobody would do that with fiat money unless they are forex traders. This is why Bitcoin is still considered and investment or speculative financial toy instead of a currency.

And regarding making huge profits, that would be the moment when you either sell your Bitcoin for cash again or you buy something else, but either way you'll have to use your Bitcoin at some point in order to realize gains.

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When you are storing your funds in the bank, keep in mind that government and legal authorities have access to your funds. You aren't the controller anymore of your funds. Bitcoin is the full reverse of the fiat system. If you store your funds into a non-custodial wallet means you have full control of your funds. You are your bank in this scenario. Bitcoin gives us financial freedom, we can spend and store our way. Sadly we can't ignore fiat as well due to our daily needs. Still, Bitcoin hasn't adapted globally and does not enable making payment everywhere.

I can't agree more.  In addition with Bitcoin, there is a possibility of making huge profits when the market goes in an uptrend unlike putting our money in the Bank where the value is depreciating due to inflation even though the bank gives interest but it is very small to make up for the devaluated value of fiat money over time.

One more thing, since banks have the sole access to the funds, if we decide to make a full withdrawal of our funds, but it exceeds the threshold of instant transfer, we need to wait for the approval and confirmation of the bank to be able to move our money and that is where Bitcoin shines brightly since with Bitcoin, we can move our funds anytime, anywhere we wanted.
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No one knows how important this topic is until they find themselves in a dire situation wherein the local banks has made deductions prior to the account owners notice, and when the account owner intends to make a withdrawal or transfer, they see the notification of charges deducted that has lessened the original amount in ones account.  It is always embarrassing and the only way I have gotten over this experience in the multiple times it once happened to me was save my cash by investment in BTC.

I didn't trade much initially, but saved up till I could withdraw to fulfil a target I envisioned already. This is one of the advantages that I have enjoyed from having the knowledge of BTC and crypto currency in general.
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When you are storing your funds in the bank, keep in mind that government and legal authorities have access to your funds. You aren't the controller anymore of your funds. Bitcoin is the full reverse of the fiat system. If you store your funds into a non-custodial wallet means you have full control of your funds. You are your bank in this scenario. Bitcoin gives us financial freedom, we can spend and store our way. Sadly we can't ignore fiat as well due to our daily needs. Still, Bitcoin hasn't adapted globally and does not enable making payment everywhere.
legendary
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Embracing Bitcoin represents a step towards financial liberation, where you determine the fate of your money, not faceless or third party institutions. for those out there who still have doubts about Bitcoin, I think it's high time you reconsider where you place your funds. Bitcoin, with its decentralized and transparent nature, is a compelling choice.
since you are new to this forum (created account this year) then you might not heard this many times that banking has most issues than crypto wallet.
the only problem in bitcoin network when there are congestion that mostly happened in bull market.
but aside from that? I think this is much faster and economical comparing to regular fiat or banking using.
I would guess that this caused due to people moving a lot, not buying a lot. The difference is that if you keep on buying a lot then you are not going to make as much money as you think, and it's just one direction move and it will not really change much in the end, but when you are trading, you do moves constantly and trading during this period is the most important one.

I believe that we should be making a good change in the end and we should be making a difference in the end as well. I do believe that we are going to end up with a result that will be different and difficult a bit, but it could end up being something that is more movement. So all in all, it's the people who trade during bull run, not the one who buy it.
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Decentralization is obviously the best advantage that Bitcoin provides to its users because we have been under the control of these financial institutions for centuries and there was never a way for people to actually keep their own money with them in a safe manner without having to keep them in paper cash that is prone to a lot of issues and without giving anyone else access to their money and always having access to their funds no matter where they are.

Why is it so easy to forget about some other physical assets as a store of value, such as gold, silver, real estate, stock investments and so on, once you get to know bitcoin?

Bitcoin is still less than 2 decades old, but its innovations have made it a better store of value than some of the options before it. I haven't forgotten the history of storing asset value before bitcoin was invented, but maybe people have forgotten it just because they have managed to make huge profits from bitcoin in a relatively short time compared to other assets. Fiat is not a good store of value due to inflation, but some other physical assets can still be considered.

After all, Fiat has never supported your right to privacy, as it adheres to a centralized system controlled by financial institutions. Decentralized bitcoin provides better privacy protection, but you must follow and implement the recommended methods to ensure privacy.
When you look at the whole picture of how value is stored, Bitcoin's design offers an option to the old ways. 0Gold, as valuable as it is, is big. Real estate cannot be moved. How about stocks? They're tied to how well the company does. But Bitcoin, in all its virtual glory, smashes these limits. It's easy to carry, can be split up, and doesn't go up in value.

However, some people may disregard traditional assets due to Bitcoin's quick value growth and anti-establishment mindset. Don't, however, dismiss Fiat's contribution too quickly. It offers a benchmark against which we gauge the worth of Bitcoin despite its shortcomings and centralized administration. The contrast is rather stark: while Fiat remains a link to the past, Bitcoin gives independence and privacy. In this new era, we must remain informed, retain a fair perspective, and combine what we already know with what we learn.
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but if we invest in BTC there is the potential not to be affected by inflation,
Bitcoin is also volatile, it will indirectly have the perception of inflation in relative value, especially for speculators whose main activity is trading it with fiat currency.
And the term "long term" is also relative to some people. There's nothing wrong with using bitcoin as a hedge, but investors can be at more risk from the effects of inflation because of the relative time they can hold it.

I agree with your opinion, and indeed investing in BTC is very risky, because the price fluctuates so it is possible that in the future people who hold BTC will suffer losses because BTC has a fluctuating nature and also we will not know whether the price of BTC will go down in the future. or up. That's why I chose everything and only the money our was ready to lose was suitable to invest in BTC.
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1) I can regulate myself how I store my funds, how I use them and most important for me is funds accessibility from any place where the internet is.
Only if you use a good Bitcoin wallet that must be open source, self-custodial (you own private key, mnemonic seed), support Replace-by-Fee, Coin Control feature, support Segwit address type and if best support Taproot, Coinjoin transaction.

Most basic but most important, open source and self-custodial.

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2) the amount if Bitcoins are limited. No one can just print more Bitcoins to solve his financial problem.
It's true and very important. Even Satoshi Nakamoto can not add more bitcoin to its total supply (21 millions).
legendary
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For me there are two main advantages Bitcoin has over fiat and banks. 1) I can regulate myself how I store my funds, how I use them and most important for me is funds accessibility from any place where the internet is. 2) the amount if Bitcoins are limited. No one can just print more Bitcoins to solve his financial problem.
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Decentralization is obviously the best advantage that Bitcoin provides to its users because we have been under the control of these financial institutions for centuries and there was never a way for people to actually keep their own money with them in a safe manner without having to keep them in paper cash that is prone to a lot of issues and without giving anyone else access to their money and always having access to their funds no matter where they are.

Why is it so easy to forget about some other physical assets as a store of value, such as gold, silver, real estate, stock investments and so on, once you get to know bitcoin?

Bitcoin is still less than 2 decades old, but its innovations have made it a better store of value than some of the options before it. I haven't forgotten the history of storing asset value before bitcoin was invented, but maybe people have forgotten it just because they have managed to make huge profits from bitcoin in a relatively short time compared to other assets. Fiat is not a good store of value due to inflation, but some other physical assets can still be considered.

After all, Fiat has never supported your right to privacy, as it adheres to a centralized system controlled by financial institutions. Decentralized bitcoin provides better privacy protection, but you must follow and implement the recommended methods to ensure privacy.
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People are constantly being introduced to new technologies and now they are using some technology to do the same work they used to do before. We have been forced to serve the banks in the conventional banking system for ages. But the time has come to turn around. Before, we used to take various benefits of the bank with high interest without getting any other way. Banks acted as middlemen especially in payments and had to pay him over and over again. Since the birth of cryptocurrency or Bitcoin, the days of these middlemen are coming to an end.

Now we are able to send directly to the recipient their due amount in faster time. We have now been freed from the position in which we have been financially hostage for so long. Although not completely independent yet, we are going to get rid of that situation soon. Bitcoin is now not just a country, it is now used globally as a modified form of the dollar or other fiat currencies. In the future, people will use Bitcoin as a medium of exchange other than another fiat currencies.
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Bitcoin is innovated to eliminate the third party. The third party in a financial transaction is the banks. Majority of the people's money goes into the pocket of the banks in different forms starting from transaction fee. Bitcoin doesn't have any limitations on cross border payment whereas banks require big process on huge volume of money transactions. Bitcoin is universal and gives access to use it anywhere whereas local banks give access to local fiat within limited region/country.

The preference of bitcoin as investment have increased much compared to the usage as currency. There is high risk with bitcoin compared to fiat, but for users who have got the ability to hold will be benefitted big. Fiat we hold could get devalued over time, but with bitcoin the same happens in the opposite way.
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bitcoin is truly an innovation in the global payment system, because unlike the banking system where people sometimes have difficulty accessing their accounts, with bitcoin someone can make transactions whenever and wherever they want as long as they have internet access. comparing banking and bitcoin, bitcoin is clearly much better, especially in terms of accessibility and security, it is much better than any banking.

maybe right now there are still many people who are skeptical about the use of bitcoin, but it is quite certain that in the future there will be more people who are aware of the various benefits they can get by adopting bitcoin.
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OP, your story is what happens in our every day life. You have an emergency situation to take care of yet banks will not release your funds to you. In most cases, you are required to fill forms, get authorisation from specific authorities first before you could access your money. What's the stress for?
Having fixed deposit accounts in banks is no longer worth it. The money saved can lose its value any minute.
With all the benefits bitcoin has, one will easily embrace bitcoin that ensures you can easily access your funds anytime and day without third parties interference, no unnecessary bank charge and you're good to go.
Interestingly,  bitcoin is not easily affected by inflation or deflation.

If we save money in a bank there will always be positive and negative sides, and indeed fiat money is always subject to inflation, especially over a long period of time, but if we invest in BTC there is the potential not to be affected by inflation, because the price of BTC has the potential to continue to rise. but in this case I will support everything, namely I support banks, support fiat currency and support bitcoin. because I think everything has its positive and negative sides.
You cannot say you support everything.  Fiat and bitcoin are not in a competition. Satoshi Nakamoto who introduced bitcoin did not see or make the bitcoin a replacement for fiat, rather he made the bitcoin an alternative coin one can easily fall to in cases like these.
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but if we invest in BTC there is the potential not to be affected by inflation,
Bitcoin is also volatile, it will indirectly have the perception of inflation in relative value, especially for speculators whose main activity is trading it with fiat currency.
And the term "long term" is also relative to some people. There's nothing wrong with using bitcoin as a hedge, but investors can be at more risk from the effects of inflation because of the relative time they can hold it.

Bitcoin is an inflation hedge when we hold them for the long term, but in the short term that is not true. Look at what happened during the 2022 crisis, how badly bitcoin was hit when inflation skyrocketed and the Fed imposed interest rates. Those who bought bitcoin in 2021 are still losing more than the decline in fiat value. So I wouldn't consider bitcoin a short-term inflation hedge. But in the long run, bitcoin really works because its price goes up.
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For the OP, after experiencing such events and realizing that you find Bitcoin to be a superior option, have you now allocated all your funds into Bitcoin?

I personally acknowledge that the banking industry operates in stark contrast to the principles of Bitcoin. Banks generate profits through the lending and borrowing mechanisms, effectively acting as custodians of the public's money and capitalizing on it.

I don't mind storing money in a bank, as long as my balance remains secure and I can withdraw it in its entirety. Furthermore, banks must ensure the safety of my data to prevent misuse.

As of this moment, I haven't been able to place all my funds into Bitcoin due to the reasons of volatility, and also because I can't directly purchase goods using Bitcoin in my country, as per Indonesia's government regulations. The volatility makes me hesitant to withdraw money for urgent needs. It's quite a loss if I require a significant amount when the BTC price is down.

However, it must be acknowledged that Bitcoin indeed needs to receive a green light for broader adoption. While many people reject or find the blockchain system incompatible, at the very least, there are no barriers for those who wish to learn about cryptocurrencies or Bitcoin
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When you deposit your money in the bank, your access to the money is definitely in the hands of the bank and as long as you keep the money in the bank account, the bank can do anything or invest anywhere with the money in your account. Sometimes there are some technical problems in mobile banking but most of the time those problems are solved quickly by the mobile banking companies but the experience you mentioned is undoubtedly very disappointing. Nowadays, to keep pace with the developed world, people now prefer to keep money in banks or mobile banking instead of cash, as a result of which it can be seen that people are depositing more money in mobile banking accounts, but sometimes the behavior of mobile banking is really disappointing. And users question their security for such activities. You may be involved with Bitcoin so you can easily convert your money through Bitcoin but those who depend only on mobile banking and have no idea about Bitcoin how can they get rid of this problem.
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