Topic: Advertising services that you believe to be a scam (Read 229 times)

I don't think using the flag system for such minor issues is productive, but still you are right, a newbie flag would be a decent way to see how many people support the type of argument. I think its better to just support or oppose an already created flag over here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/flag-request-yobit-exchange-5153493. There is no point in targeting specific users as it would just increase the drama IMO.

Anyways this looks like an unwanted discussion to me, as CJ is just doing his job and we could say for his personal income which anyone would think is more important to them. There are thousands of people here prompting ponzis and MLMs through there signature already, and it looks unavoidable IMO. If the campaign is really that unwilling to the forum overall, adminstration should just step in.

You could argue that being willing to promote a service that you consider a scam as a red flag and create a Newbie warning flag I suppose. I don't know if this would make someone "High Risk" to deserve negative trust.


Have CJ report the post. See what mods decide. Problem solved, no need for constant arguing back and forth and you get a (mostly) definite answer.

I agree it is immoral to oppose something vocally and supporting the same thing in action,  even if it is for the small amount of BTC dust you earn from supporting it.

But, I think CJ was taking a good step in supporting the flag against Yobit and I don't find any reason to drag this discussion this much as it was only about countering opinions nothing else.


Someone's view points are not the way to judge his/her trustworthiness and it is also not an criteria for the trust score. Trust score's are totally based on the trading potential of the person and it should be seen the same.


Absolutely not, he is just being doing his promotion job for what he is paid for, it does not make CJ a part of the Yobit team or a scammer.


I would personally never promote a service in anyway which I think is a scam, it is truly a question of my integrity!

I have tried to refrain from getting into a personal argument but thought I would publicly defend myself and outline where I think CJ is completely wrong such as the "following the rules" statement.

The conclusion of this thread is that I don't think CJ is a trustworthy member due to the viewpoints and what they are willing to do for monetary gain. However CJ currently has a positive trust score and is considered trustworthy and I feel that this could misguide those new to the forum and my question would be do we hold CJ accountable if Yobit is proven to be a scam?

I'm not suggesting a negative rating for CJ but I would definitely make the statement that Due to CJ's views and morals of advertising a service that they believe to be a scam themselves and knowingly continue to advertise their services I would not trust this member despite their positive trust score

I'm interested on the community feedback on this matter and hopefully we can get CJ to change his mind about advertising what they believe to be a scam themselves. 

User in question: CjMapope
Reason: Advertising services that they believe to be a scam
Reference threads: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/flag-request-yobit-exchange-5153493

As per CjMapope's request I'm taking the discussion to my own thread so that this doesn't derail the original purpose of the other thread but also outlines how morally misguided I believe CjMapope to be.

During this thread CJ makes the statement that Yobit is a scam operation and made their own flag against Yobit via a "misclick". Which are both shown below:


What I find interesting about this reply is it looks like CJ is on some sort of power trip and believes that it takes balls to wear a paid ad in his signature and still voice that they don't agree with how Yobit is run. However I have an issue with the morals of someone who is willing to outright claim that Yobit is a scam operation and that solid red flags have been given but is still willing to advertise their services. Guests or others on the forum may well see CJ as being a respected member due to their rank and their merit and think that Yobit is a good exchange to use. Whatever the claims of Yobit are and whether they are a scam operation is yet to be fully confirmed. However no one can deny the amount of shady actions that have happened over the years. But its not a issue of whether Yobit is a scam or not its the viewpoint that I have a problem with. My personal morals would be not to advertise anything that I personally believe to be a scam.

My opinion on why CJ is willing to risk his reputation is because simply they are getting good monetary return where they would not get elsewhere. Judging by his posts I doubt that he would be accepted on any reputable campaign on the forum and has in fact tried getting on other campaigns in the last few days prior to advertising for Yobit:



I would like to address this little last bit that CJ made. First of all I know the rules and have followed them you could possibly critique me for going off topic on the thread that you made those statements however I have respected your wishes and out of respect for those on that thread have taken it to my own.

My opinion is your attitude stinks. There have been several members who have pointed out what is wrong with you advertising a service that you personally believe to be a scam but you have not listened to reason and instead insisted on attacking those members. Well I say that but honestly 3 people called you out one member being much reputable than the other two and you conveniently didn't attack them and just ignored it. Do you fear those with reputation and only attack those that have none like myself?

And going on about caring for "internet points" I presume you mean merit? When in my reply did I mention anything to do with merit?

Lastly I would like to counter argument against the statement "I follow theymos' rules here" well you don't actually. Here are multiple instances where you are breaking the forum rules:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5159189

These posts are the equivalent to "great project".