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legendary
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Amsterdam is one of the nicest cities I've been to, and would love to go back there, even to live for a year or two.

I'd do a quick financial scenario analysis between renting and buying and keep an eye on what's available for sale on the market.

I think I'm in a little bit of a middle class bubble here compared to the rest of the Netherlands, despite the crime being highest here compared to the rest of the country I haven't had much trouble, but I am lucky enough to live in the centre right now.
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Amsterdam is one of the nicest cities I've been to, and would love to go back there, even to live for a year or two.

I'd do a quick financial scenario analysis between renting and buying and keep an eye on what's available for sale on the market.
legendary
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bigtimespaghetti, remember I warned you not to go into the London property market and said it would collapse into October 2015 (before I advised you to take the career change leap to Netherlands which appears to be working out great for you ... I see your new ebook on minting).

The London Property Market is Crashing

Note I was posting as "iamback" upthread. I am the former user AnonyMint.

hey TPTB! I have been following your many username iterations Smiley I've been too busy lately to follow your latest postings though I'm afraid, I'm glad to see that you're still active.

Thanks for the link, UK has been showing all the signs of another bubble, but I haven't been following it too closely.

Yes, things are lovely here in Amsterdam. The job was probably exactly the thing for me, not to mention the adventure and challenge of living in a different country. The book has been a side project for the last year, I'm glad to have it finished!
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bigtimespaghetti, remember I warned you not to go into the London property market and said it would collapse into October 2015 (before I advised you to take the career change leap to Netherlands which appears to be working out great for you ... I see your new ebook on minting).

The London Property Market is Crashing

Note I was posting as "iamback" upthread. I am the former user AnonyMint.
legendary
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Yep. This is pretty crazy stuff- commented on a thread about this. The protest seems largely manufactured by hard lefties though. I wouldn't consider it much of a reflection of the general populace.
legendary
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I'm thinking of buying a flat in Amsterdam or rather taking a mortgage out more specifically. Mortgage rates are pretty good and if I choose to I will have to invest little of my own money.

Pros:
  • It's in a bustling major city
    The market seems to have bottomed and is in a small upswing
    Easy for me to get a good size mortgage
    Rates are very low
    Some tax benefits to owning
    Beats renting
    Can always rent it out fairly easily if I end up having to leave Amsterdam



You forgot to mention coffeshops   Wink

I don't smoke.  Tongue
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I'm thinking of buying a flat in Amsterdam or rather taking a mortgage out more specifically. Mortgage rates are pretty good and if I choose to I will have to invest little of my own money.

Pros:
  • It's in a bustling major city
    The market seems to have bottomed and is in a small upswing
    Easy for me to get a good size mortgage
    Rates are very low
    Some tax benefits to owning
    Beats renting
    Can always rent it out fairly easily if I end up having to leave Amsterdam



You forgot to mention coffeshops   Wink
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legendary
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...With the metro line coming in a few years (maybe 10  Wink)...

Make that 20 years or more, due to sovereign debt contagion crisis that will impale the EU from 2016 - 2024 at least.

Perhaps your right, Amsterdam is in a huge dept because of the Noord-Zuid lijn, but my guess would still be within 10 years.
legendary
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Nadeem Walayat is usually correct. Appears buying a house in the UK or getting involved in UK real estate will be sustainable for at least 2 years; whereas, Europe is ready to slide over the cliff as of October.

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article49783.html

Yes, his forecasting is pretty good, especially regarding the UK. He has been advocating property in the UK for a couple of years if I remember rightly.

Yes he did. And apologies I was thinking the UK would bust with Europe as of October 2015, but now I realize the USA and UK are independent because they (or were) reserve currencies[1] and thus they will get ingress of capital that is fleeing the collapsing EU, China[2], and Japan in 2016.

[1]
...There are banksters in every nation on earth. For now, they just happen to be concentrated in New York (and lingering in London) for the moment, because that is where the seat of financial (and military) power is held because the USA (and formerly England) holds the world's reserve currency [i.e. they are the current financial capitals of the world].

[2] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10794406

Perhaps this ingress of capital will be the final impetus for the London property bubble to ultimately top. I've been trying to think of what could cause this outside of young families finally being completely priced out. The UK government seems committed to propping up the property market (understandably so) too.
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...With the metro line coming in a few years (maybe 10  Wink)...

Make that 20 years or more, due to sovereign debt contagion crisis that will impale the EU from 2016 - 2024 at least.
legendary
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Well, an affordabe option would be Amsterdam-Noord. With the metro line coming in a few years (maybe 10  Wink) this will be a good investment for the future. IJburg is an option. The centre is always a good investment, but can you afford it. The rent is very for a loan is very low at the moment, so good time to buy!

Thanks for the input, I didn't know about the metro line being built.

For now I am going to see what the market does. I have not mentioned that my bank has changed the terms of any mortgage I take from them, so it's not as attractive to me to buy a house right now.
legendary
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Well, an affordabe option would be Amsterdam-Noord. With the metro line coming in a few years (maybe 10  Wink) this will be a good investment for the future. IJburg is an option. The centre is always a good investment, but can you afford it. The rent is very for a loan is very low at the moment, so good time to buy!
legendary
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just buy btc man......fuck the bank and there mortgages in an inflated property market.

half the city is laundered money.....

Part of me says yeah this is adult Disneyland for tourists and prices just go up, especially for short term holiday rentals

the other part of me says...... soon, maybe even now given recent articles, the average person cannot afford the house prices here, something has to give.

either its is doomed to be the Venice of the north, where no one stays but everyone visits or prices need to go down, that's rental and buying.

HODL!

Fuck it i'm drunk, what do i know......



I agree, while the UK housing is manipulated up, it is coming to a point where no-one can afford to buy, especially in London. So either I'll be kicking myself in a few years time or I'll be witnessing another bubble pop in the UK and here in Amsterdam.

I have no idea how the average guy could afford anywhere even close to central in Amsterdam.
legendary
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Nadeem Walayat is usually correct. Appears buying a house in the UK or getting involved in UK real estate will be sustainable for at least 2 years; whereas, Europe is ready to slide over the cliff as of October.

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article49783.html

Yes, his forecasting is pretty good, especially regarding the UK. He has been advocating property in the UK for a couple of years if I remember rightly.

I will be waiting until October to see what happens probably.
legendary
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Nighty Night Don't Let The Trolls Bite Nom Nom Nom
just buy btc man......fuck the bank and there mortgages in an inflated property market.

half the city is laundered money.....

Part of me says yeah this is adult Disneyland for tourists and prices just go up, especially for short term holiday rentals

the other part of me says...... soon, maybe even now given recent articles, the average person cannot afford the house prices here, something has to give.

either its is doomed to be the Venice of the north, where no one stays but everyone visits or prices need to go down, that's rental and buying.

HODL!

Fuck it i'm drunk, what do i know......

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Nadeem Walayat is usually correct. Appears buying a house in the UK or getting involved in UK real estate will be sustainable for at least 2 years; whereas, Europe is ready to slide over the cliff as of October.

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article49783.html
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