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Topic: Advocates for free speech start to make their voices known - page 2. (Read 272 times)

legendary
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Bitcointalk does not allow freedom of speech, so you are posting this in the wrong place. Oh, they will allow the far-right Bitcoin infiltrators to express their views though. Pff, they will probably delete this reply anyway. Well fuck off bitcointalk anyway.

On the contrary, I think this forum is very democratic. No one will remove a post that contains unpopular opinions or certain political views that contradict the views of the administrator or moderators. Of course, if he is not breaking the rules.
legendary
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if your banned from youtube.. oh well go find another platform.
your freedom to speak has not been revoked. just privilege of others to hear you has
Superficial view of what's really going on. This "cancelling" is being taught in elementary schools, universities; it's permeating everything all the way up to the corporations and even science. Western society is being ripped apart and the "side" that's doing it wants to silence everyone that doesn't see the world through their ideology. I watched a video of an "academic" trying to explain how math is racist. And as we're seeing, if you don't agree with all things racist (and it's not just that issue either), you get silenced. You lose your job if you speak out and disagree. You can't publish papers and on and on it goes. Seriously, go educate yourself on what's really going on instead of seeing this as just a social media issue. The people that are pushing all of this have made it crystal clear they want to tear down society as it is and rebuild it into something else. This issue is all encompassing and people like you are still blind to it all.


The conservative "right or far right has been noting this problem and complaining/acting about it for at least five years, while it has gotten steadily worse and worse. My definition is that it is part of the solidifying of the left into a neo-fascist/marxist intolerant form of  progressive totalitarianism.

At least in part Trump is a reaction to these developments.

Agree or disagree?
sr. member
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Merit: 320
For anyone that actually wants to get a feeling for what's really going on, here's a few videos.

3 years ago evergreen college "imploded". This is a very long sequence of videos but what happened there 3 years ago is what we see going on out in the streets right now. This is what they're being taught in school for decades now and those people are now the ones working for the big corporations and are pushing those agendas.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRdayXEOwuMG9DG66Bvx6YbUnhw-buS5K

A decent series on some of the stuff going on

https://youtu.be/YDFL3xwEEG8
https://youtu.be/7QKDm10S8As
https://youtu.be/IKpU6lyZKws

This guy was part of a group that submitted some "fake" papers for peer review to other academics. The results was shocking. At least one was approved I think but they were "discovered" before all of them could go through the process. One of the papers took part of hitlers mein kampf and simply changed some the words around so it was about trans being oppressed and the comments they got back on it were favorable.

https://youtu.be/rSHL-rSMIro

These guys are interesting to watch and one of them signed the letter.

https://youtu.be/GfsH3AaoqYM

The "censoring" that's going on is just the symptom of what's really happening out there.
sr. member
Activity: 686
Merit: 320
if your banned from youtube.. oh well go find another platform.
your freedom to speak has not been revoked. just privilege of others to hear you has
Superficial view of what's really going on. This "cancelling" is being taught in elementary schools, universities; it's permeating everything all the way up to the corporations and even science. Western society is being ripped apart and the "side" that's doing it wants to silence everyone that doesn't see the world through their ideology. I watched a video of an "academic" trying to explain how math is racist. And as we're seeing, if you don't agree with all things racist (and it's not just that issue either), you get silenced. You lose your job if you speak out and disagree. You can't publish papers and on and on it goes. Seriously, go educate yourself on what's really going on instead of seeing this as just a social media issue. The people that are pushing all of this have made it crystal clear they want to tear down society as it is and rebuild it into something else. This issue is all encompassing and people like you are still blind to it all.
legendary
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Merit: 4534
free speech is:
if in an empty room your able to hear your own voice. you have your freedom
not being paralysed/duct tape over mouth to prevent speaking

free speech is not:
where other people have to/need to listen
speak in any public place at any time.
speak without repercussions

for instance
if your banned from youtube.. oh well go find another platform.
your freedom to speak has not been revoked. just privilege of others to hear you has

i know people think that being able to have a platform with huge audience is an element of free speech. but its not. its what comes out of your mouth directly. not if the microphone amplifies it to millions of people or just one person

if your still able to be in an empty room and still hear your own voice. then you still have your freedoms
youtube/forum access has nothing to do with your vocal chords

thinking you only have freedoms if your on youtube/forum. is meaningless
these places can as a courteous and a privilege temporarily allow you to use such platforms to amplify your speech. but it does not mean you have the right to have your speech amplified

its why those street preachers can still use their voice and shout the funny lil yarns about doomsday using their vocal chords.. but they can have their microphone and amplified speaker confiscated.

being given permission to stand on stage infront of a microphone/camera and broadcast to millions. is not a right but a privilege/service. which can be taken away
sr. member
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https://harpers.org/a-letter-on-justice-and-open-debate/

I know of a few of the people that signed on as I've been listening to their yt videos on this topic for awhile now. That list could have been a hell of a lot longer so will be interesting to see if others step out from the shadows and add their voice to the message in some other ways. This is a real issue that affects everyone on both sides of the political spectrum and it needs voices from both sides to speak out and stop burying their heads in the sand. This isn't just a US issue either. It's all western nations and it's pervaded every aspect of our societies.
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