Topic: Affiliate signature campaign - page 2. (Read 642 times)

There is no benefit in that for the participant. You only get paid if someone signs up using your referral link, deposits a significant amount of money, and losses it while gambling. Posting in sub-boards, which are the playground for spammers isn't going to get you any referrals simply because the people there don't care about it, they don't have any money, and maybe don't even understand English to know what it is that you want from them.

It's not that tricky. You only get paid if the casino makes money from the players you referred. If the referred player wins a jackpot, like in your example, and walks away with more money than what they came with, the casino hasn't made any profit. Hence, you don't get paid. If your referral deposits and losses, the casino makes money and you get your share of the pie. 

Its s really good strategy by the casino to get more visibility and only have to pay if there is any benefits from the campaigners to the company so it make sense but people who used to the pay per post or fixed weekly payment will not be interested in this campaign unless they have lot of influence here and can make people to use their signature space and get paid but people with such amount of influence will not be really interested in $50 so this is kind of experimental signature campaign and we have to wait and see how it works.

This does look interesting. It's a new approach. I think I haven't seen something like this before. I'm a little excited how this eventually pans out.

I'm thinking this is highly advantageous to the brand. The brand could actually get free marketing in the end. Participants are making the brand visible but it's not necessarily paying for it. Name recall is a good effect of this without shelling out money for promoters. Whenever somebody wants to try blackjack, Blackjack.fun could be the first platform to come to mind. That doesn't necessarily mean an affiliate link is used, though.

However, this is a bit disadvantageous to the participants. Yes, they could earn big from this, but how many would actually register using their link? How many would actually make a deposit? How many would bet at least $300? This last condition is particularly the biggest challenge. I guess it would help if your account here is popular and that you're making a lot of posts. If you're a low-rank member, not influential, not making lots of posts, not very visible in other words, you'll only wish somebody would stumble upon your signature and use the link.

If you're a participant and you're not getting anything after three weeks you will change your signature, all the other promoters of online casinos here are getting paid and why I am not, if you're good at something why not get paid for it, this is for our comrades who are good in CPA, they can target the right people who can take action on what they are offering, but if you're relying on your post here in Bitcointalk you are 50/50 to get money but the positive side of it is, you just need one whale to make huge referrals rewards.

Requiring their participant to post would be a bad move since they don't pay per post or weekly like your usual campaign. There is no guarantee that they will get paid either so it is best to let them post anywhere and whenever they want. The income comes from affiliates anyway. I doubt anyone interested in the campaign would just spam every day just because there are no rules about posting.

The model is not new and it's quite standard in other industries.
It's normal for a company to pay on the amount it makes, the other type of payments might just make you lose money, I know the adult industry was focusing on a few methods and abandoned them one by one
- PPI, pay per impression, easy to fake, end up paying just for advertising, maybe zero sales from 1 billion instant close of the advent page,
- PPC, pay-per-click, easy to the fake, same stuff you end up paying thousands and no real sign-up and no money spent
- PPS, pay per sale, obviously, you get money for each sale, just like the above:
but again can be faked, you sign-up with two accounts, you make an arbitrage on a bet, and you get in one account ~$560-580, the other loses, but you still gain 100 from referrals, but it's on a lower scale, and far easier to trace abusers
-revenue share, the guy pays 50$ a month for a subscription you get 10-20% of the sale. Can't be faked, and can't be taken advantage of unless you play with stolen cards, which is really not worth it as the chargeback will show up before you get paid.

I don't get the

This is tricky, it's a commission on how much a referral has lost and not the entire deposited sum, then if your referral hits a jackpot and goes on a positive balance with a few hundred thosuands you're done for as the other must lose the same thousands just to ket your balance positive.

Anyhow, not new:
[Primedice] Affiliate Program: Passively earn 10% of house edge
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/primedice-affiliate-program-passively-earn-10-of-house-edge-745779

This is the first affiliate campaign signature based on my knowledge, I stand to be corrected this is the spreadsheet for their new round

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c3TqgcXRXY1I22qq-uYAS3SujM7vCtfvQgPmVpsiSf0/

So far 11 participants let's see the number after a week, I don't want to speculate its better to see the result of this campaign in its first two weeks, but if you're one of the participants don't just rely here in Bitcointalk you have the whole gambling community to spread your affiliate link.
It's possible to have 10 sign up and get nothing and one signup and get hundreds of dollars it all depends on the character and action of your referrals.

I was one of the participants of their campaign and they have a very long campaign back then so I wonder will these participants get new sign-ups here, unlikely if this is a new casino with good potential then probably they will new sign up, it's free advertising
it's like a CPA where you are on your own and you are left where you want to promote how you promote it as long as you are not violating their terms.

You can post 100 posts here and there's a probability you cannot get signed up even if you do get a sign up you need to complete a requirement to qualify for their rewards, you need to have experience as an affiliate marketer to do this.

Especially if the forum users got used to get weekly payments from campaign so most provably those people who didn't get much on that kind of campaign will provably shift to another one and they think that its more worthy to join on weekly payment camps.

Although this is somehow a good offer but you need to spend a lot of efforts before you can gain.

But there is no minimum post requirement and there is no limit to where participants want to promote their link. If so, I think participants can certainly go elsewhere where spam isn't moderated as long as participant's name is written in the spreadsheet and wear signatures.

It's interesting to observe how many people applied thinking this was a standard signature campaign only to cancel their applications later. People really have a problem with reading and understanding some basic pieces of information.

This campaign won't benefit the majority of its participants, but to the casino, it means free advertising. Some of those who do get accepted might try to abuse the referrals and refer themselves. After that, there will be KYC requests with the potential of scam accusations popping up where those who cheated didn't succeed in tricking the casino.

The casino and the campaign manager aren't lying. Everything is clear. Those who join the campaign expecting regular weekly payments can only blame themselves. Still, I wouldn't support this kind of behavior, and I hope the campaign ends as a failure and no one else attempts anything similar in the future.   

I expect only 1-2 from 1000 users will get paid.

The purpose of signature campaign is to make the project visible in this forum and that would interest new people to register the casino but it doesn't must need to click the signature link in order to register the casino. Even though only few users who register with the referral link, it doesn't mean the signature campaign isn't working. But of course the one who change the rules is the casino representative, sooner or later they will know this kind promotion wouldn't working.

Does that mean people never click on a signature? I doubt; I have discovered a few casinos from the signature campaign and checked them through clicking the signature.
Well, blackjack is well known to bitcointalk community; they aren't new here. There's little chance of getting click if you take from that perspective. If it was a new casino, chances would be high.

We have forum users who are still doing this. The rules here in bitcointalk is somewhat strange LOL.

Tricky!

Good for the company if people register through the affiliate link and deposit. Bad for a participant if no one ever users his affiliate link  
It's like saying, I will only pay you if you advertise and bring in a customer through your referral.

I think it will also encourage shilling around the forum, which is unnecessary according to most members... More like, "Hey, there's this excellent casino, please sign up using the link in my signature"

In business aspect, this is really a good way to promote the site^{(it's a win-win situation for them)}.

But it is not fair for those who will join. Why? they already made a name on this forum, their previous campaigns requires website registration too, well, a lot did applied and created an account ^{(because of higher pay rate)}.

So as a participant/affiliate, the chance for someone to register using your signature/affiliate link is very low. Besides invites still needs to deposit xxx amount before an affiliate get their reward.
Although it's really unfair to the participants, it's not that bad to do such campaign, but don't expect more people will join.

Just about every gambling site out there has SOME for of referral link. It's tagged to your account anyway. This just takes it and instead of just putting http://youwillnever.win/?ref=Dave someplace it makes it a nice pretty signature. There are no posting requirements or anything else so I don't see this as a real signature campaign just a nice looking referral campaign that happens to be in your signature.

Not that big a deal IMO. With that.

However, I can see this being open to a bit of abuse unless sujonali1819 keeps a tight control over posts. No min characters no max posts. Can spiral out of control quickly. Remember yobit.....

-Dave

Indirectly, this scenario will benefit the casino without having to pay for every post from its participants.
The problem is that it would be difficult to expect someone to spend $300 as a valid referral only for you to get paid $50, and I am worried people are much more likely to sign up without an affiliation than sign up through your affiliate link if they don't want you to earn $40 out of their losing $100.

I'm afraid a campaign like this won't be successful in the end to get a lot of participants, but on the part of the casino it's clear they will benefit because whoever will promote the brand in the signature doesn't need paid, as long as it doesn't fulfill the following conditions:

As long as there are campaigns with steady pay, only few desperate or too low rank would go for such a campaign.
This kind of advertising may be okay on social media and maybe for very few who start specific topics on gabling, maybe exactly at the casino they're advertising. So unless the user has special (both advertising and gambling) skills, only few lucky ones will get anything, I'm afraid.

And Royse does have a point: there is brand and there is conversion. I feel though that this model unfairly favors too much the casino, by paying only for the conversion.

Without a weekly payment, there won't be many good people involved in the campaign. After all, the risk of earning nothing at all is very high. No income without clicks. And even if you get a referral, they have to wager $300 and that's certainly not a little. After all, there's no minimum number of posts you have to make, and that's good. But I'm convinced that if you paid weekly like other campaigns, you would have better participants. At least that's my opinion on it. 

This is just a way of advertising, for example, we are now discussing their high referral percentage here as well because of this campaign. Blackjack.fun now have one more thread about them and his affiliate program and nothing more. even without an official campaign, manager etc... any user can create signatures and add their affiliate links, and probably over 90% of all casinos have an affiliate program.
as far as I can see, most users give up on the campaign when they have read the conditions a little better.