Topic: Afghan criminals who gang-raped little boy granted residency in Sweden - page 3. (Read 3286 times)

I'm not sure about Swedish prisons, but I still remember when Breivik went on a hunger strike in Norway until he got a PS3

https://www.rt.com/news/340356-breivik-verdict-playstation-torture/

If these boys are grown enough to rape, they're grown enough to fight
They should be deported

Living conditions in prison in Sweden are better than when they lived in freedom in Afghanistan. I would not be surprised if after serving the sentence, they again commit some other crime, not to return to Afghanistan. I would sent them to jail.

This type of crime carries with it a heavy sentence in my country. Sweden is likely similar. Have they been sentenced yet?

I do believe that there should not be difference in punishment between the hardness towards animals and humans. Responsibility should be the same. As for these migrants, they in a Swedish prison is better than sitting at home.

Well that's another matter ^^

I mean I'm not saying I disagree with you. It's just I'm against death penalty in general but I guess that if I wasn't opposed to it, rape would be a crime that could be punished by it. Especially rape on underage people (I'm not going to say child because it's not exactly a child here).
But again the problem has nothing to do with their origin I completely agree with you! The problem here is that both the thread title and the vast majority of the answers are more or less only about their origins and the fact that they're migrants so they should get killed or deported to their home. So what? It means that if they were Swedish 15months of jail for a rape is ok? For god sake 15 months for a rape!!! I could het in jail for longer just by... I don't know, fucking a sheep I guess! (Would be disgusting but it's a good comparison, it seems better from a juridical point of view to rape a boy than to rape a freaking animal, and even if I'm against animal abuse I'm less against it than against people abuse!)

As always, Russian twist the facts in order to slander the facts. These criminals put in jail, and after serving their sentence they are deported. Do now is too loyal to migrants in Europe, but crime is out there fighting is better than in Russia.

You rape anyone, you do not deserve life regardless of who you are or where you reside on this planet.

Oh look, someone who doesn't read my whole post but still tries to say that I'm the wrong leftist:


If they don't die they'll come back so it's useless at protecting the society.

This is the typical argument used by the leftists to prevent the deportation of criminal foreigners in Europe.

How is a deportation equal to death sentence?

There is a 0.000001% chance of these criminals getting killed, if they are deported.

If it was more than 50%, then I'd have believed you.

If you think this way, you just deny facts.

"The average sexual recidivism rate found was 13.7 percent and the average overall recidivism rate was 36.9 percent, based on an average followup period of 5 to 6 years."
http://www.smart.gov/SOMAPI/sec1/ch5_recidivism.html

It means that 14% will rape or assault again and a bit more than a third will commit another criminal offense.

Which means that far more than half of them will not become recidivist. So they are most likely to NOT rape again.


Which doesn't mean that they should be released. You have the right to consider that the risk is still too high and that they should be killed. But do not spread false facts, Counseling or rehabilitation are not perfect but they work perfectly 63% of the time and they prevent sexual recidivism 86% of the time.

Not really surprising considering your avatar...

Anyway there is a reason to care simply because you have a legal system that does not accept death penalty. It would be highly hypocritical to send them back as I explained because it would be either a disguised death penalty or completely useless.

You think raping a young boy should be punished by death? Fair enough but then change your legal system. That's all I'm saying, that the juridical system is the problem here. Who cares about them being aliens or not? It would be ok if they were Swedish?

Unless of course you consider aliens as lower human beings, then you can do whatever you want to them I guess. Again, considering your post history I wouldn't be surprised if that was the reflection of your thoughts.

They rape a little boy, how will this little boy stay? This is unforgivable and I do not believe that those involved in this criminal act will change

Counseling or rehabilitation will not help these criminals change behavior. Most likely they rape someone else again

there is no reason to care what happens to them once they are sent back, the safety of our own people is more important than the well being of criminal aliens

Ok I think most of you are terribly wrong here...

You're all here like "we should deport them, that's not normal, look at those immigrants getting only 15 months of jail"

You don't get the point, the point here is that deportation is out of sight simply because it would be equivalent to death sentence and death sentence is no longer available in Europe.
If you want to be angry, be angry about the length of the jail time maybe, or the fact that they were judged as kids while committing adult crimes I don't know...

But what is your point? That we should deport all immigrants committing crime?
Well here's a piece of news for you: they'll either die or come back. If the country is too dangerous it's a disguised death sentence and that's forbidden in most civilized countries. If the country is not that dangerous they'll come back so it's useless.

You want this to change? Fight for death sentence to be back again. Or for punishing serious crimes without taking the age into account I don't know.

But focusing on their origins is stupid because that's not the problem. I'm not calling to racism here, just saying that's not the problem. We don't care about where they come from in fact. If they were Swedish boys it would still be a very light sentence after all.

But maybe it wouldn't be on all the news 

That man's sentence turned into the death penalty for that, actually:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-38458529

What makes you think that their next victim will be a non-native?


They don't deserve child rights, if they behave in such a way. And moreover, most of these "children" are adult Muslim men in their 20s, who falsify their age so that they could claim asylum.

Depends on where you do it. Try it in Syria or some other crazy extremist country, you'll get torn apart by angry mob. Those animals should be treated the way they are treating each other, no prison. Public hangings, hard labour, tortures, let's bring back the middle ages!


Put me in charge, I'll submit those monkeys. Give them a taste of the master's whip

Sorry I don't think you understand the culture you are dealing with here, they will not submit to your western infidel laws ever

The victim is not a native to be precise. But there are laws that underaged children should not be deported due to life threatening situations. It is called child rights, instead of deporting or putting them in prison the proper move was to place them under counselling or rehabilitation facility so they can change their ways.

You can't compare something that happened hundreds of years ago, to what is going on now in Europe. If the Europeans were treating the Australian and the American natives harshly, then the Arabs were dishing out even more cruelty to those natives in Sudan and Zanzibar. Arabs are responsible for much more ethnic cleansing and slave-riding expeditions, than the Europeans.