Hi
This should have been close down a long time ago. It is a disgrace that innocents are being held up for no reason, if they are guilty they should be tried on the mainland and tried by a normal us court
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Topic: After 13 Years with No Charges, British Prisoner at Gitmo Finally Released (Read 1366 times)
November 21, 2015, 07:54:51 PM
November 09, 2015, 01:01:49 PM
Thirteen years of torture in prison without even being charged, and then finally being released because there were no charges. What a trip!
November 09, 2015, 01:53:24 AM
Not just concrete evidence. There is no evidence for any of that. The bush administration admitted that. That is what happens when prisoners are tortured for information. They lie. And what happens when americans pay ransom for prisoners. The northern alliance is paid for some people they capture. How many did they get rid for their own reasons?
Are you claiming that this guy was innocent and was framed by the Northern Alliance? If so, what was he doing in Afghanistan? He is originally from Saudi Arabia and later received the British passport. He had no family/work connections to Afghanistan, and at that time even schoolchildren knew that traveling to that country was risky.
November 08, 2015, 08:28:11 PM
Not just concrete evidence. There is no evidence for any of that. The bush administration admitted that. That is what happens when prisoners are tortured for information. They lie. And what happens when americans pay ransom for prisoners. The northern alliance is paid for some people they capture. How many did they get rid for their own reasons?
Are you claiming that this guy was innocent and was framed by the Northern Alliance? If so, what was he doing in Afghanistan? He is originally from Saudi Arabia and later received the British passport. He had no family/work connections to Afghanistan, and at that time even schoolchildren knew that traveling to that country was risky.
Nothing there is evidence of wrong doing.
November 08, 2015, 12:55:10 AM
Not just concrete evidence. There is no evidence for any of that. The bush administration admitted that. That is what happens when prisoners are tortured for information. They lie. And what happens when americans pay ransom for prisoners. The northern alliance is paid for some people they capture. How many did they get rid for their own reasons?
Are you claiming that this guy was innocent and was framed by the Northern Alliance? If so, what was he doing in Afghanistan? He is originally from Saudi Arabia and later received the British passport. He had no family/work connections to Afghanistan, and at that time even schoolchildren knew that traveling to that country was risky.
November 07, 2015, 06:52:17 AM
lost 13 years of his life. will the government pay for that?
Shaker Aamer traveled to Afghanistan to join the Taliban / Al Qaeda. Although there is no concrete evidence of any war crimes committed by him, we can safely assume that he fought among the radical Islamists for many months, before his eventual capture by the Northern Alliance. He is quite lucky to be alive now. Had the Russians captured him, then they would have cut off his balls...
Not just concrete evidence. There is no evidence for any of that. The bush administration admitted that. That is what happens when prisoners are tortured for information. They lie. And what happens when americans pay ransom for prisoners. The northern alliance is paid for some people they capture. How many did they get rid for their own reasons?
November 04, 2015, 02:07:07 PM
He probably thought that he was signing up with the United States since it was the U.S. who brought Al Qaeda into existence in the first place.
Allies can become enemies in a matter of few months. Until 1992, the Americans were supporting the Taliban / Al Qaeda, helping them with weapons, and even transporting foreign mercenaries from Saudi Arabia and Egypt to Afghanistan. Even in the late 90s, when Taliban was fighting against the Northern Alliance, the Americans were inclined to support the former, as the Northern Alliance was believed to be pro-Russian.
Exactly what the Taliban / Al Qaeda thought when the U.S. turned on them.
November 04, 2015, 01:55:12 PM
He probably thought that he was signing up with the United States since it was the U.S. who brought Al Qaeda into existence in the first place.
Allies can become enemies in a matter of few months. Until 1992, the Americans were supporting the Taliban / Al Qaeda, helping them with weapons, and even transporting foreign mercenaries from Saudi Arabia and Egypt to Afghanistan. Even in the late 90s, when Taliban was fighting against the Northern Alliance, the Americans were inclined to support the former, as the Northern Alliance was believed to be pro-Russian.
November 04, 2015, 01:53:53 PM
It's a shame how America treat some citizens/humans when they are just ACCUSED of being terrorist. Trying to give messages like " if you hang around/sympathise for our enemies we will fuck your life" is just plain terrorism.
November 04, 2015, 01:51:00 PM
a lot are killed when they assumed something. but why free him now? just shoot him instead, bury him deep that no knows, tell every one he just disappear so the government won't be blamed for wasting 13 years of the man's life.
Right. But is government any better for starting Al Qaeda? Gitmo is totally acting outside the law... like a rogue government that is supported by the U.S.
November 04, 2015, 01:44:13 PM
a lot are killed when they assumed something. but why free him now? just shoot him instead, bury him deep that no knows, tell every one he just disappear so the government won't be blamed for wasting 13 years of the man's life.
November 04, 2015, 09:46:23 AM
lost 13 years of his life. will the government pay for that?
Shaker Aamer traveled to Afghanistan to join the Taliban / Al Qaeda. Although there is no concrete evidence of any war crimes committed by him, we can safely assume that he fought among the radical Islamists for many months, before his eventual capture by the Northern Alliance. He is quite lucky to be alive now. Had the Russians captured him, then they would have cut off his balls...
He probably thought that he was signing up with the United States since it was the U.S. who brought Al Qaeda into existence in the first place.
November 04, 2015, 09:24:53 AM
lost 13 years of his life. will the government pay for that?
Shaker Aamer traveled to Afghanistan to join the Taliban / Al Qaeda. Although there is no concrete evidence of any war crimes committed by him, we can safely assume that he fought among the radical Islamists for many months, before his eventual capture by the Northern Alliance. He is quite lucky to be alive now. Had the Russians captured him, then they would have cut off his balls...
November 04, 2015, 05:27:11 AM
His life is ruined, but so were the lives of the victims and families of 9/11. Guantanamo is a disgrace. We could have dealt with these people in a lawful way, dispensing justice without putting such a stain on our national honor
His life doesn't have to be ruined. He has life. He can move on. Hopefully he doesn't become a life long hater and terrorist of the US.
lost 13 years of his life. will the government pay for that?
Why would the government do that? That money would be better spent on the families that lost people in ANY terrorist attack.
November 04, 2015, 01:45:09 AM
^ why would the government compensate someone who they wronged? Whom they jailed for 13 years for doing nothing wrong. And in the conditions that exist in gitmo. Which have been described to include torture. The government screwed up so of course they should pay for it.
Looks like you're defending osama bin laden there. Because that's what he did too.
When it comes to a guy as awful and destructive as Osama bin Laden there's only one way to beat him and it involves making everyone he has contact with an enemy by association - an accessory.
Looks like you're defending osama bin laden there. Because that's what he did too.
November 04, 2015, 12:18:44 AM
His life is ruined, but so were the lives of the victims and families of 9/11. Guantanamo is a disgrace. We could have dealt with these people in a lawful way, dispensing justice without putting such a stain on our national honor
His life doesn't have to be ruined. He has life. He can move on. Hopefully he doesn't become a life long hater and terrorist of the US.
lost 13 years of his life. will the government pay for that?
Why would the government do that? That money would be better spent on the families that lost people in ANY terrorist attack.
November 03, 2015, 05:10:33 PM
lost 13 years of his life. will the government pay for that?
November 03, 2015, 05:00:39 PM
Guantanamo is the shame of America, and America cannot claim to be a fair free, nor decent country as long as it exists. Any true American would abhor it's existence.
November 02, 2015, 07:11:45 AM
His life is ruined, but so were the lives of the victims and families of 9/11. Guantanamo is a disgrace. We could have dealt with these people in a lawful way, dispensing justice without putting such a stain on our national honor
November 02, 2015, 01:38:53 AM
a lot of the inmates went on to commit acts of terrorism after being released, i have mixed feelings about this
Interesting point. I wonder if that result was created by a hatred for the US created by the Guantanamo incarceration or was a hatred that existed before incarceration? Likely the latter but it's interesting to think about.
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