After elections end this year for all countries, we are all screwed - page 2.

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Quote from: Dragonfund on November 07, 2020, 05:13:00 PM

It might not be as difficult as you thought. Though, each presidency with their unique way of ruling people and delivering campaigns promises. I just their would be changes but not certain about the amount of degree.
My concern is Btc pattern, I hope it doesn't repeat 2017 crash. It was all fine during October and November 2017 until December came in and then everything began to fall back. Election is over, no new cruise news Grin

Stay positive everyone, it can never be bad as 2020. We have seen enough.

I think we are in a better position than 2017, the bitcoin price is so strong at the moment that I don't see such a bit risk of a price drop. But even if the price would drop 20% we are still fine in my opinion. If we all keep believing in bitcoins there is no way the long term trend is not upwards.

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Quote from: KnightElite on November 09, 2020, 11:17:18 PM

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Quote from: smartcontracts100 on November 05, 2020, 04:59:25 PM

After elections end this year for all countries we are all screwed

Reason : They don't need no more votes .

Prepare for tax increase,price increase,lockdowns,police brutality and anti democratic measures .

2021 going to be a crazy year for the world .

Can't say this about all the countries. Yes USA might face this but I don't think it's going to be as radical as you are say. Yes tax increases might come due as compensation for the radical fiscal measures taken by Governments during the lockdown and extended burden on economy due to vaccine payments and it's distribution could further alleviate taxes. Brutality and rest of things happen now and then a few are noticed and rest get unnoticed so one shouldn't think about these useless things.

Taxes can be avoided in a legal way and it is called tax avoidance. Rich people especially those who have businesses and corporations are doing it legally. I'm sure that this tax will help the government of the US to have more income in order for them to create more projects that can benefit the citizens but there is a bad thing with this tax and it is will be a burden for the poor and middle class in the US. Those people are usually the employees who get their salary through job, they cannot avoid paying taxes because of that but those people who have corporation have a legal way to do it. Actually, whenever there is a law about increase of the taxes, rich people are having a new way in order for them to avoid paying taxes legally.

I know that pretty well I am an tax expert in my country and I know all those tricks and schemes of tax planning as well as avoidance you can say. But trust me these aren't that easy. They actually are possible only in businesses because there is spending of money in businesses which can be manipulated in a way to project lesser profits thereby paying lower taxes but for normal salaried person he has no such option than legible sources of tax rebates such as investment in specified securities or something. I know this new millennial thinking of not paying taxes these days is up on fire but it's pretty different from what most people think.

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Quote from: teosanru on November 09, 2020, 11:14:11 AM

Quote from: smartcontracts100 on November 05, 2020, 04:59:25 PM

After elections end this year for all countries we are all screwed

Reason : They don't need no more votes .

Prepare for tax increase,price increase,lockdowns,police brutality and anti democratic measures .

2021 going to be a crazy year for the world .

Can't say this about all the countries. Yes USA might face this but I don't think it's going to be as radical as you are say. Yes tax increases might come due as compensation for the radical fiscal measures taken by Governments during the lockdown and extended burden on economy due to vaccine payments and it's distribution could further alleviate taxes. Brutality and rest of things happen now and then a few are noticed and rest get unnoticed so one shouldn't think about these useless things.

Taxes can be avoided in a legal way and it is called tax avoidance. Rich people especially those who have businesses and corporations are doing it legally. I'm sure that this tax will help the government of the US to have more income in order for them to create more projects that can benefit the citizens but there is a bad thing with this tax and it is will be a burden for the poor and middle class in the US. Those people are usually the employees who get their salary through job, they cannot avoid paying taxes because of that but those people who have corporation have a legal way to do it. Actually, whenever there is a law about increase of the taxes, rich people are having a new way in order for them to avoid paying taxes legally.

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Quote from: carter34 on November 09, 2020, 01:38:54 PM

I don't see much that will be different in Biden's administration. What he happened in the election is that a change of personality has happened. Trump was more of a president that talks without respecting the way it will sound outside his leaps and more of the social media type, he shook Twitter and gave it more popularity. Biden may have a different style of conversation and information, he might be the intricate type.
The real point is whoever is the American president has the citizen as top priority anyway where they are living across the world, this has not changed.

There will be some continuity, of course, because the main work is provided by the state apparatus that is constantly working regardless of the elections Wink

The current elections have shown that American society is more divided than the pre-election polls showed, and Biden's victory does not look so unconditional. Therefore, Biden will have to take into account the opinion of citizens who voted for Trump, despite his extravagant behavior and manner of governing the country. But the extent to which the electorate of Trump is the top priority for the new administration we will see in the next year.

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Lockdowns will be required to keep the number down once again and this time around I feel like it is going to actually make a difference and change something about this situations.

The reason why I think of it like that is the fact that when the first lockdowns happened it was the peak of pandemic and we weren't ready for it and humanity got very very sick because of it and hospitals weren't enough to cover all sick people and doctors and scientists were working to figure out how we could recover people and so forth, nowadays we are established a lot better, we know what to do, we know medicine and how to recover, we are more ready for it even though numbers grew a lot since people are out again.

What will happen (imo) would be people staying home, sick people get smaller in numbers, and doctors will use this new expertise to fix them and not allow another big grow when the number gets small enough.

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Quote from: asus09 on November 08, 2020, 11:02:19 PM

After the election for the president of the United States is over, there will be a significant impact on other countries, especially those that are still developing, there will definitely be different cooperation because Joe Bidden has won the competition with Donald Trump. .

I don't see much that will be different in Biden's administration. What he happened in the election is that a change of personality has happened. Trump was more of a president that talks without respecting the way it will sound outside his leaps and more of the social media type, he shook Twitter and gave it more popularity. Biden may have a different style of conversation and information, he might be the intricate type.

The real point is whoever is the American president has the citizen as top priority anyway where they are living across the world, this has not changed.

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Quote from: chaser15 on November 05, 2020, 06:43:43 PM

Too much negativity these days, can we please stop? Unless you can make a valid argument, then let it discussed.

Those things you told are already normal things we deal with everyday, nothing new.

I don't think 2021 will be the worst. It's the year of adjustment. We already being in the worst and that was this year, 2020.

Same here, exactly the same thinking is on my mind. People are nowadays are getting frustrated and don't know which topics should be discussed.

He mentioned the worthless topics and those are actually not new. After elections we are still seeing the same thing and hope 2021 will go better if the Covid-19 will not spread as we expected and the vaccine are out to save us.

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Quote from: smartcontracts100 on November 05, 2020, 04:59:25 PM

After elections end this year for all countries we are all screwed

Reason : They don't need no more votes .

Prepare for tax increase,price increase,lockdowns,police brutality and anti democratic measures .

2021 going to be a crazy year for the world .

Can't say this about all the countries. Yes USA might face this but I don't think it's going to be as radical as you are say. Yes tax increases might come due as compensation for the radical fiscal measures taken by Governments during the lockdown and extended burden on economy due to vaccine payments and it's distribution could further alleviate taxes. Brutality and rest of things happen now and then a few are noticed and rest get unnoticed so one shouldn't think about these useless things.

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Quote from: chaser15 on November 05, 2020, 06:43:43 PM

Too much negativity these days, can we please stop? Unless you can make a valid argument, then let it discussed.

Those things you told are already normal things we deal with everyday, nothing new.

I don't think 2021 will be the worst. It's the year of adjustment. We already being in the worst and that was this year, 2020.

Agreed, the pandemic took everyone by surprise and it showed we were not prepared for it regardless of what we were told, so everyone including governments went through a period of adjustment.

2021 is not going to be as bad as this one, I really think the lockdown will not have to be as severe as the one we went through during the first wave of the pandemic and people would have gotten used by now to this new normality, so I think that once a lockdown is implemented the number of cases in such region will go down more rapidly as now people know what it is expected out of them and once the vaccine comes out and the most vulnerable receive it first then we can finally put the cornonavirus behind us.

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Quote from: tabas on November 08, 2020, 11:53:55 PM

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Quote from: petyang12 on November 06, 2020, 09:48:35 AM

Not all countries are in elections. It is already crazy even in 2021 because of covid19. Well, it is not the same as before but there is still a limited for something just to be sure if it is covid free.

He's pointing out the US elections and expecting that there will be a huge impact on the entire world once the election's done.
This covid19 pandemic has truly made this year crazy but there's hope for 2021. I start to see that in other countries, they're almost back and no wearing masks in public places, that's a good sign for me.

Europe is going back in lockdown: https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-53640249

My country Romania is going on partial lockdown from Monday , after parliamentary elections on the 6th of Dec i expect they will put us on full lockdown here also for second wave.

Oh.
That's unexpected.
If there's another lockdown then the economy from those countries including yours will suffer again. Does your country have a good plan for the battle against covid19?

The plan is probably the lock down itself. There's no vaccine yet so the only way is to slow down the widespread of the virus. The counterpart of such action will be dealt by the economy of a country or region perhaps. Protocols are already told to every individual but it is just that the virus is still existing. Governments are having no other plans but to slow down the virus until an official vaccine is presented in the masses. What makes the situation scary is that, people are no longer that afraid of the virus making them careless on situations which should be avoided because this will be unending as the number of casualties are getting bigger.

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Quote from: smartcontracts100 on November 07, 2020, 07:13:52 AM

Quote from: tabas on November 07, 2020, 07:04:30 AM

Quote from: petyang12 on November 06, 2020, 09:48:35 AM

Not all countries are in elections. It is already crazy even in 2021 because of covid19. Well, it is not the same as before but there is still a limited for something just to be sure if it is covid free.

He's pointing out the US elections and expecting that there will be a huge impact on the entire world once the election's done.
This covid19 pandemic has truly made this year crazy but there's hope for 2021. I start to see that in other countries, they're almost back and no wearing masks in public places, that's a good sign for me.

Europe is going back in lockdown: https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-53640249

My country Romania is going on partial lockdown from Monday , after parliamentary elections on the 6th of Dec i expect they will put us on full lockdown here also for second wave.

Oh.
That's unexpected.
If there's another lockdown then the economy from those countries including yours will suffer again. Does your country have a good plan for the battle against covid19?

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After the election for the president of the United States is over, there will be a significant impact on other countries, especially those that are still developing, there will definitely be different cooperation because Joe Bidden has won the competition with Donald Trump. Every president has different views or cooperation with other countries, so that at this time it is a bit worried for each country how Joe Bidden's decision is still beneficial for other countries or have controversial opinion. During the campaign, Donald Trump said that Joe Bidden was an opposition to the Chinese state and of course it would cause conflict in the future if this was true, considering that China is a superpower that has a monopoly system.

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I guess it's just a feeling of worrying too much while in reality we still don't know for sure what changes will come later. For me, every change will always be for the better and if change only causes chaos, obviously it has to be resisted and because this era is the era where everyone can give their opinion easily. So, there's no need for us to assume sooner that chaos will happen because it will only make the situation worse, stay calm and hopefully change for the better does happen and not about chaos.

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Obviously lockdowns are not something we are going to see again, there could be some limitations, like let's say "no clubbing after midnight" or things like "no gatherings over 50 people", I am making up limitations and don't know what they would do, would change from state to state as well but the maximum they could do would be stuff like that, it wouldn't be a lockdown but it would have some sort of rules.

The best one would probably be having limited customers in a shop compared to unlimited, that would allow a lot of spreading out if it comes to that. However new governments could definitely try to tackle this better because it will be the first thing they will be judged with, Trump was criticized for not caring enough so Biden has to care a lot to show he is different.

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Quote from: smartcontracts100 on November 05, 2020, 04:59:25 PM

Prepare for tax increase,price increase,lockdowns,police brutality and anti democratic measures .

People think just because parts of Europe went back into lockdown that America will follow. Not this time. The federal government doesn't have the authority, and state governments can't take the economic shock again. I just don't see that happening, definitely not on the scale that we saw in March 2020.

Biden did vow to increase the corporate tax rate (reversing the Trump tax cuts) but to do that, he needs to the Senate to pass the bill. Since the Democrats failed to gain a majority there, that's probably not going to happen. Maybe after the mid-term elections in 2 years.

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Quote from: smartcontracts100 on November 05, 2020, 04:59:25 PM

After elections end this year for all countries we are all screwed

Reason : They don't need no more votes .

Prepare for tax increase,price increase,lockdowns,police brutality and anti democratic measures .

2021 going to be a crazy year for the world .

They always need more votes, that's the beauty of democracy. Also, they always need votes, which is also the dark side of democracy. That's why they pander. That's why they kick the can down the road. Every bitches about taxes going up, but in the US, we cut taxes for the wealthy when we were running trillion dollar deficits. It was the stupidest and most irresponsible thing you could have done. If you think you will have a stable society if the dollar loses all its value because the US defaults on the debt, you're wrong. Taxes have to go up because our fiscal situation already wasn't sustainable and this past administration has amped that up to 11.

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Quote from: Ryker1 on November 07, 2020, 06:04:10 PM

Well, I deeply understand your situation and what you are feeling at the moment. I know that you've been in hard times. However, it seems like your perspective is something that is not supposed to be public. Stop thinking about the bad and spread negativity, as it might really happen when you attract it. You are making yourself vulnerable bro, --the best thing to do right now is to do the right thing. Increase the hope and patience.

Negativity will not lead to anything. There are people who elect and support them then maybe there are good news that will happen. In election there are really who will win and lose and what we only need to do is to follow the rules and be a better citizen. There is always room for adjustment and acceptance and just hope that the result will lead for the good benefits of many.

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Overall we should not think about that way since we don't yet experience the leadership of Biden yet maybe the best thing to do is to observe the economy flow when Biden is in the seat and compare it later if there's a changes or not. Hopefully we cannot see a bad leadership with him since many want to see America became great again.

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We cannot further conclude just like that for we still do not know what would happen right after the end of election. Also, to put into correction, not all countries are already into dealing with election this year like here in our country wherein the next national election for choosing our next president would be on year 2022. Let us just all hope that the winning party in US will serve what they have promised and will not just set aside those good platforms they have stated to convince the citizens of US to elect them as their new officials of the government. Instead of thinking the negatives, let us just all hope for good things to come along with the changing of the elected officials sitting in the White House.

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Well, I deeply understand your situation and what you are feeling at the moment. I know that you've been in hard times. However, it seems like your perspective is something that is not supposed to be public. Stop thinking about the bad and spread negativity, as it might really happen when you attract it. You are making yourself vulnerable bro, --the best thing to do right now is to do the right thing. Increase the hope and patience.

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