After losing the money in gambling,what is your strategy

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on April 24, 2024, 12:04:09 AM

Now, that is something very stupid: getting a loan to use in gambling, especially if he is not expecting any income that could cover the loan in case of loss. Your friend dug his own pit by doing that. The worst thing is, his family is also affected by his decision. If he loses and does it again, either your friend is extremely addicted or needs some help from an expert because he is ill. Algo? lol, he can't catch it; by the time he realizes it, the algorithm might have changed again.

Anyone who believes they can decipher the gambling algorithm is either a delusional person or just addicted who can't control their gambling urges. He'd be very very lucky if he can multiply that loan amount and be able to pay back the loan before it's due, but in most cases, even if he'd win early, chances are he'd going to lose it eventually anyway. It is too rare for a person who got hooked up with gambling to stop at some point where they win good amount or let's say he doubled his money, because that won't still gonna be enough. So, yeah he's digging his own grave right there without him noticing it as he might have held on to the thoughts that he'd beat the casino as he gain some uncertain information regarding the gambling algorithm.

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Quote from: boltz on April 20, 2024, 05:25:27 PM

My strategy ? Close the browser , close the app , forget about gambling and move on because if you don't do this , you will have the temptation to chase your loses and that can do a lot more damage to your pocket than usual as I know this on myself lately where I've gambled just a bit from my bills money and that was a huge mistake that I will never ever repeat again and that's why I no longer have access on my bills money and my parents will remotely pay for me.

It is that simple, sometimes I see gamblers asking for self-exclusion features, help from their friends to monitor them all the time so they cannot gamble and many different other measures that are just skirting around the real problem.

If a person wants to stop gambling, whether this is just temporary or in a permanent fashion, the only person they can rely to do this is themselves, and if they cannot do so then it will not be long until they develop some gambling problems, or at least lose way more money than what they can afford.

Gamblers who seek for a trusted person to watch over his gambling activity is also helping himself not to get compulsive. Players are more adapted to going for help and handling the gambling limitations themselves. These actions depends on the personality, how they're able to deal with their own problem. Not everyone in life have dealt with their problems alone, without asking for help. Some people can't stay alone, because they may not be able to finish all their tasks alone. Same happen with gamblers.

Those who feel they need a close friend to regulate their gambling actions should do it, provided that it yields results. For instance a player is meant to stop when in losses, but if he's not eligible or capable, he needs someone to help him stop. Else he'll remain in those losses for long and suffer more anxiety for a long period. Players with this strategy, when done well, are doing the right thing for themselves. People who can deal with it alone, and are sure it's attainable, can as well look into handling their troubles alone. Gamblers should know their capabilities.

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Quote from: HelliumZ on April 24, 2024, 07:33:03 AM

I can't say how other gamblers react after losing a bet, but in my case, after losing a bet, I try very hard to prevent myself from becoming completely addicted to gambling. Especially after I lost a gambling bet, I was comforted by my girlfriend and at some point I was able to control myself completely. Once I bet $500 Even though the dollars were borrowed from my girlfriend but after losing the bet I shared the story of losing the bet to my girlfriend and my girlfriend consoled me a lot and we went for a long drive. Now my girlfriend forbids me from gambling a lot and I try to be in control myself.

You are lucky that you are supported in this way, because I have heard many stories about how in such cases many people prefer to simply leave the person because they think that there is no way to help him and this will continue forever. Don't give your girlfriend a reason to think about you the same way. Usually, when a player places a big bet and loses, and then says he won't do it again, it happens again, no matter what, years later. However, in my case, I did not have this, I made a large bet a long time ago and after that I experienced such a fear of losing this amount that I did not repeat it again after many years. I'd rather continue to make small bets that won't damage my wallet.

We cannot really blame those which choose to leave, as it is often the case that they do all what they can to help their loved one to try to overcome their addiction, and after years of the same pattern repeating over and over again, they just give up believing there is no way to help them.

Sometimes that is exactly what a person needs in order to realize that they are losing everything due to their addiction, but the opposite can also happen, in which the addicted losses all hope once they are left behind by those that supported them so far.

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Quote from: HelliumZ on April 24, 2024, 07:33:03 AM

I can't say how other gamblers react after losing a bet, but in my case, after losing a bet, I try very hard to prevent myself from becoming completely addicted to gambling. Especially after I lost a gambling bet, I was comforted by my girlfriend and at some point I was able to control myself completely. Once I bet $500 Even though the dollars were borrowed from my girlfriend but after losing the bet I shared the story of losing the bet to my girlfriend and my girlfriend consoled me a lot and we went for a long drive. Now my girlfriend forbids me from gambling a lot and I try to be in control myself.

You are lucky that you are supported in this way, because I have heard many stories about how in such cases many people prefer to simply leave the person because they think that there is no way to help him and this will continue forever. Don't give your girlfriend a reason to think about you the same way. Usually, when a player places a big bet and loses, and then says he won't do it again, it happens again, no matter what, years later. However, in my case, I did not have this, I made a large bet a long time ago and after that I experienced such a fear of losing this amount that I did not repeat it again after many years. I'd rather continue to make small bets that won't damage my wallet.

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Quote from: Westinhome on April 16, 2024, 06:59:32 AM

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Now he had decided to start the gambling again with the loan money to balance the previous loss of 2000$.What is your opinion on this,I had suggested him to go to the regular job to reduce the loan in step by step to reduce the loan burden.But he had word of “We can earn,Where we had loss everything “.Share your opinion on this.

Upon reading this sentence gave me quite pain to read because your friend made another mistake by having a loan just to play another gambling, not all people have safe faith and result in playing could be he will be the one who is in the higher percentage of people who lose most of their games. It's quite hard to help those people if they keep the urge to play at the end of yours do your best if you can but if possible don't tolerate their gambling. Make them realize the reality there's no instant money.

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Trying to gamble again after losing, of course this is because it is very difficult for us to control ourselves in gambling activities and looking for loans to be able to fulfill their gambling desires, of course this will be very risky if they cannot pay off the loans they have made and for them Those who have gambled like that, of course, are very addicted to gambling and will use various methods to fulfill their gambling desires, which of course will be very detrimental to themselves.

After a loss, the urge to gamble may increase and the tendencies to become more destructive. As a result, his tendency to win more chases and tries to borrow from anywhere. This is basically what gambling addiction is all about. He should understand that he can lose again. Losing tendencies make him end all at once which is by no means desirable.

Exactly! having a gambling losses may leads to a person to gamble more because the urge of wanting to recover their losses is at peak point of their emotions especially if that person is suffering to a gambling addiction. Those gamblers should know how to pause for a while, control their emotions and assess theirself before doing a decision to gamble again because the possibility of loss is there.

On the time that you would really experiencing loses then you would really be definitely be having that main thing into your mind on which you would really be definitely chasing up your loses and trying out to break even. This is why on the time that you do lose all of your bankroll on that particular day then it would really be best that you should really be stopping completely before things becomes worst and this is why it would really be important because if you are really that do have a hard time on stopping then better to make yourself that be distracted via doing other things like physical activities or other things on which it would really be able to make yourself not to play even more because if you do find yourself having that kind of urge then you would be totally that be a huge challenge for you to have such control.
We do know that this is something that will really be basing or depending on a certain individual because each does have that different level of control and tolerance when it comes this kind of situation.

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I can't say how other gamblers react after losing a bet, but in my case, after losing a bet, I try very hard to prevent myself from becoming completely addicted to gambling. Especially after I lost a gambling bet, I was comforted by my girlfriend and at some point I was able to control myself completely. Once I bet $500 Even though the dollars were borrowed from my girlfriend but after losing the bet I shared the story of losing the bet to my girlfriend and my girlfriend consoled me a lot and we went for a long drive. Now my girlfriend forbids me from gambling a lot and I try to be in control myself.

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Trying to gamble again after losing, of course this is because it is very difficult for us to control ourselves in gambling activities and looking for loans to be able to fulfill their gambling desires, of course this will be very risky if they cannot pay off the loans they have made and for them Those who have gambled like that, of course, are very addicted to gambling and will use various methods to fulfill their gambling desires, which of course will be very detrimental to themselves.

After a loss, the urge to gamble may increase and the tendencies to become more destructive. As a result, his tendency to win more chases and tries to borrow from anywhere. This is basically what gambling addiction is all about. He should understand that he can lose again. Losing tendencies make him end all at once which is by no means desirable.

Exactly! having a gambling losses may leads to a person to gamble more because the urge of wanting to recover their losses is at peak point of their emotions especially if that person is suffering to a gambling addiction. Those gamblers should know how to pause for a while, control their emotions and assess theirself before doing a decision to gamble again because the possibility of loss is there.

And the result they lose a lot more instead of gaining that's why these people feel more devastated since they lost a lot of money for those mistake they made. People should need to know how to figure out some certain scenarios that favor to them or not since if they can figure out that something is not good at the time they are betting for sure they can minimize their losses and can avoid to get more aggressive feeling and be stress for not good reason. Also they can asses that they are lucky and continue to gamble then earn, once they are done they can safely take out their profit then quit. Although this is not easy as we thought to execute but constant experience to deal with this situation and have good discipline on everything we do also we are consistent on our plans set before we gamble then everything can run as smooth as we plan on our daily gambling activities.

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Trying to gamble again after losing, of course this is because it is very difficult for us to control ourselves in gambling activities and looking for loans to be able to fulfill their gambling desires, of course this will be very risky if they cannot pay off the loans they have made and for them Those who have gambled like that, of course, are very addicted to gambling and will use various methods to fulfill their gambling desires, which of course will be very detrimental to themselves.

After a loss, the urge to gamble may increase and the tendencies to become more destructive. As a result, his tendency to win more chases and tries to borrow from anywhere. This is basically what gambling addiction is all about. He should understand that he can lose again. Losing tendencies make him end all at once which is by no means desirable.

Exactly! having a gambling losses may leads to a person to gamble more because the urge of wanting to recover their losses is at peak point of their emotions especially if that person is suffering to a gambling addiction. Those gamblers should know how to pause for a while, control their emotions and assess theirself before doing a decision to gamble again because the possibility of loss is there.

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on April 24, 2024, 12:04:09 AM

Now, that is something very stupid: getting a loan to use in gambling, especially if he is not expecting any income that could cover the loan in case of loss. Your friend dug his own pit by doing that. The worst thing is, his family is also affected by his decision. If he loses and does it again, either your friend is extremely addicted or needs some help from an expert because he is ill. Algo? lol, he can't catch it; by the time he realizes it, the algorithm might have changed again.

Even if it is someone expecting from an income, it doesn't still look healthy and advisable for a gambler to seek for loan just to further his gambling after initial lost.
Why not just go home and think about something else with life aside the lost? The friends act is really the dividends of when gambling with what is not affordable to loose.

Let it be clear known that once a gambler is under pressure of his lost, further of his predictions could even go worse that he can not even make a 10% right predictions because he is assumed to be frustrated and unstable to analyse the game before staking.

Also understand that second chance does not presume that we are chance to win after first lost so, that guy is really going psycho and need to be attended to as if he keep up with such at some points, surely that he would go out of control just as said.

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Trying to gamble again after losing, of course this is because it is very difficult for us to control ourselves in gambling activities and looking for loans to be able to fulfill their gambling desires, of course this will be very risky if they cannot pay off the loans they have made and for them Those who have gambled like that, of course, are very addicted to gambling and will use various methods to fulfill their gambling desires, which of course will be very detrimental to themselves.

After a loss, the urge to gamble may increase and the tendencies to become more destructive. As a result, his tendency to win more chases and tries to borrow from anywhere. This is basically what gambling addiction is all about. He should understand that he can lose again. Losing tendencies make him end all at once which is by no means desirable.

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on April 24, 2024, 12:04:09 AM

Now, that is something very stupid: getting a loan to use in gambling, especially if he is not expecting any income that could cover the loan in case of loss. Your friend dug his own pit by doing that. The worst thing is, his family is also affected by his decision. If he loses and does it again, either your friend is extremely addicted or needs some help from an expert because he is ill. Algo? lol, he can't catch it; by the time he realizes it, the algorithm might have changed again.

Trying to gamble again after losing, of course this is because it is very difficult for us to control ourselves in gambling activities and looking for loans to be able to fulfill their gambling desires, of course this will be very risky if they cannot pay off the loans they have made and for them Those who have gambled like that, of course, are very addicted to gambling and will use various methods to fulfill their gambling desires, which of course will be very detrimental to themselves.

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on April 24, 2024, 12:04:09 AM

Now, that is something very stupid: getting a loan to use in gambling, especially if he is not expecting any income that could cover the loan in case of loss. Your friend dug his own pit by doing that. The worst thing is, his family is also affected by his decision. If he loses and does it again, either your friend is extremely addicted or needs some help from an expert because he is ill. Algo? lol, he can't catch it; by the time he realizes it, the algorithm might have changed again.

It seems that there are people who still use and borrow for gambling, we just realize that for investment it is also not allowed to use borrowed money, while someone does it for gambling, isn't that the most ridiculous thing I can hear this time, he doesn't know how to manage money and it seems like he is an unemployed person who hopes to get a miracle when he plays.

This kind of stupidity needs to be eradicated, I agree with you that it is better to be taken to a psychiatrist or whatever it is to deal with the addiction problem, advice alone will not be useful for the addict, the person will only stop when he is not in good health, because when he is healthy he only thinks about gambling, to fulfill his lust. There are too many people like this so that gambling becomes a bad activity and is seen as a gathering of stupid people, even though it is not the gambling but the people who do gambling themselves.

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on April 24, 2024, 12:04:09 AM

Now, that is something very stupid: getting a loan to use in gambling, especially if he is not expecting any income that could cover the loan in case of loss. Your friend dug his own pit by doing that. The worst thing is, his family is also affected by his decision. If he loses and does it again, either your friend is extremely addicted or needs some help from an expert because he is ill. Algo? lol, he can't catch it; by the time he realizes it, the algorithm might have changed again.

Of all the things that one can take loans for, gambling is the most ridiculous of them all, you will possibly lose that loan again and end up in more debt.

The problem with people is they don't know when to stop, if you have no clue about how dangerous gambling can be to your mental health you can take the blind step but after you start losing over and over shouldn't that be a full stop time?

The thing is many people have high expectations from gambling, since there is a lucky bed living close to them or they stumbled on a news online about a poor guy who turned rich because he risk some money and win very big, they will instantly start looking up to such glory day as well.

What they don't understand is that we are all different, what mike did that turned him into a millionaire I can do it and turn into a homeless person, people like walking in the shadows of their fellow men, they always like to copy, I believe that I am different and no one should try to copy my ways or they will fall short of their own fated glories.

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on April 24, 2024, 12:04:09 AM

Now, that is something very stupid: getting a loan to use in gambling, especially if he is not expecting any income that could cover the loan in case of loss. Your friend dug his own pit by doing that. The worst thing is, his family is also affected by his decision. If he loses and does it again, either your friend is extremely addicted or needs some help from an expert because he is ill. Algo? lol, he can't catch it; by the time he realizes it, the algorithm might have changed again.

It is also not advisable to take out a loan to fulfill the desire to gamble, right you say it is a stupid act, because it will only make it difficult for yourself, especially if we do not have a clear income to cover the loan. In fact, I think that when we have an income, it is not advisable to prioritize gambling. With people who take out loans to use for gambling, I think they are too desperate to gamble even though they shouldn't, because it is an act that has gone beyond the normal limits.
It's obvious that if someone borrows money for gambling it will affect their family, a family that doesn't know anything can be affected by unwise decisions like this. I also think that when they borrow money to gamble they are already too involved in gambling that they don't think about the big bad impact that can affect not only themselves.

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The same as when I win. Keep playing the same, what matters are the long term results, not having won or lost a single day. What does happen is that after many negative sessions in a row, what is known as a bad streak can affect you psychologically and you can start to make worse decisions because of it. If so it is better to play less and study the game more.

That's the obvious thing but the long-term results will almost always be negative when it comes to gambling, you're going to suffer more losses rather than enjoying more wins unless you did win early on in your gambling huge amounts of money that it's enough to fizzle out the differences that you've had in terms of losses. I don't know about bad streaks though, most of the time, some people have a hard time quitting because they're chasing their losses which ends in misery because bad streak makes you emotional and when you get emotional, it messes up your game especially if you're playing something that needs skills, being emotional is a bane.

It's true, it's quite difficult or even impossible to achieve or maintain a greater number of wins than losses if we talk about the long term in gambling, very few gamblers can actually do it and also from the concept of gambling itself it is clear that the percentage Losses are much bigger than wins, while on the other hand, gambling can also really make someone trapped in their emotions at certain times which usually makes them experience quite significant losses.

On the other hand, as you said, the only way to get a win that is much bigger than the loss is that we have to really have very good luck by managing to win a large amount at the start of the involvement before we allocate too much. money but I think it cannot be controlled because after all luck is gray, it cannot be predicted when it will come. And even if you are very lucky, sometimes it is difficult to really refrain from doing another experiment another day because of curiosity, because in some cases they usually end up implementing their greed based on high beliefs and hopes and I think we have all know how bad the impact can be if a gambler is greedy.

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Now, that is something very stupid: getting a loan to use in gambling, especially if he is not expecting any income that could cover the loan in case of loss. Your friend dug his own pit by doing that. The worst thing is, his family is also affected by his decision. If he loses and does it again, either your friend is extremely addicted or needs some help from an expert because he is ill. Algo? lol, he can't catch it; by the time he realizes it, the algorithm might have changed again.

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Quote from: Westinhome on April 16, 2024, 06:59:32 AM

Now he had decided to start the gambling again with the loan money to balance the previous loss of 2000$.What is your opinion on this,I had suggested him to go to the regular job to reduce the loan in step by step to reduce the loan burden.But he had word of “We can earn,Where we had loss everything “.Share your opinion on this.

Gambling with your last penny is risky, but gambling with borrowed money is even worse and should absolutely be avoided. The purpose of gambling is to provide enjoyment, not to create financial burdens. It’s important not to attribute to gambling more power than its intended function, to be a source of entertainment.

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My strategy ? Close the browser , close the app , forget about gambling and move on because if you don't do this , you will have the temptation to chase your loses and that can do a lot more damage to your pocket than usual as I know this on myself lately where I've gambled just a bit from my bills money and that was a huge mistake that I will never ever repeat again and that's why I no longer have access on my bills money and my parents will remotely pay for me.

I love that. That's the best decision we will make after losing loads of amount in gambling. Take a break, it's free.
You did the right thing there, avoiding jeopardizing the money that is meant for something important. Give it to someone else where you will have no access to it anymore and family is the best choice as they can be trusted to do the right thing.
In my case, I give it all to my wife and let her make the payments for the bills when the time comes because if I have that money, I am sure I will go gambling and might test my luck. The losing percentage is just way higher than winning so it's best if the important money is kept hidden or out of your hands and then just leave the amount that you are ready to lose so when it's all gone you will have no other choice but to take the rest. Also, this obliges us to be careful on our bets because we realize we are near ending our gambling days we make the safest bets.

This is really sound advice from both of you. If a person can't recognize when it's time to step back, it might be wise to rely on friends or family who can intervene in time.

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Quote from: famososMuertos on April 20, 2024, 05:10:57 PM

OP, it is a priority to understand that you are going to lose most of the time, it is a mathematical question, the key is to keep your funds as close to breakeven, so that when the variance goes in your favor, you would manage those profits.

The mistake is that many players, like the case you mention, want to turn those 2,000 into 10,000 in a couple of bets or a couple of hours. The player who understands losses as game strategies knows that if he loses 2000, he must have the effect of losing a "$1," e.g., If not, he is betting out of the bankroll.

Many players without betting are already losing because they do not have the slightest idea of financial management, or how to manage a bet size correctly per game, per odds, bankroll, etc.

The gambling was the unpredictable one,even we play the gambling with the tactics.But we don’t know when our tactics will bring us the money.If we get the money from the gambling tactics means,it was the good one.But if the gamblers loss the money,he should take the responsibility of the money involved.But the mostly of the gamblers start to scold the gambling site after the loss in their gambling games.The gamblers including my friend want to multiple 2k to 3x or 5x of the betting money.So the multiple the winning doesn’t affect the gamblers.But if my friend had loss of the loan money would leads to huge credit burden to him.

Quote from: Poker Player on April 23, 2024, 12:26:42 AM

The same as when I win. Keep playing the same, what matters are the long term results, not having won or lost a single day. What does happen is that after many negative sessions in a row, what is known as a bad streak can affect you psychologically and you can start to make worse decisions because of it. If so it is better to play less and study the game more.

The gambler make this blunder,it doesn’t mean he is experienced or the beginning gambler.After make the big unexpected result from the game,the gambler will create the fake trust on him.Like he had huge potential to make the big winning from the gambling site.But we don’t know what the exact result after the big winning in the gambling site.If everyone can make the big money from the gambling site,why not all the big shots multiple their money in the gambling sites.The gamblers based on the luck.The gambler who loss should accept the loss, the revenge gambling leads to the loss.

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Quote from: Poker Player on April 23, 2024, 12:26:42 AM

The same as when I win. Keep playing the same, what matters are the long term results, not having won or lost a single day. What does happen is that after many negative sessions in a row, what is known as a bad streak can affect you psychologically and you can start to make worse decisions because of it. If so it is better to play less and study the game more.

That's the obvious thing but the long-term results will almost always be negative when it comes to gambling, you're going to suffer more losses rather than enjoying more wins unless you did win early on in your gambling huge amounts of money that it's enough to fizzle out the differences that you've had in terms of losses. I don't know about bad streaks though, most of the time, some people have a hard time quitting because they're chasing their losses which ends in misery because bad streak makes you emotional and when you get emotional, it messes up your game especially if you're playing something that needs skills, being emotional is a bane.

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