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newbie
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June 03, 2018, 09:58:55 PM
#34
There was also a lot of bubbles in the stock, but it remained here. It is difficult to make clear whether Bitcoin is a bubble, because the bubble is still very good before it is shattered. This is very pointless. Twenty years ago, 10,000 Bitcoins could only buy one pizza. Was it a bubble at the time, and now it has become a bubble because of its rising prices?
jr. member
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June 03, 2018, 09:01:03 PM
#33
I think it is the media’s job to thoroughly exhaust all aspects of bitcoin –whether good or bad. But whether they focus more on bitcoin being a bubble or not, any form of dialogue will help bitcoin become more of a household name.
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June 03, 2018, 01:24:45 PM
#32
skeptics lack. They were 4 years ago, when everyone said that the bitcoin is now at the peak of$ 25 and then collapse. To invest what makes no sense is a bubble. What to say. Many believe that the planet earth is flat? and that we all believe that??? Don't , we need to move on.
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June 03, 2018, 01:14:53 PM
#31
Again, these guys insisting that bitcoin is a bubble will be proven wrong. Bitcoin has been described far worse than that and by some of the most influential people in finance. But bitcoin is still here and is about to make another record run.
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June 03, 2018, 06:53:55 AM
#30
we know that the real market with crypto market is not the same, so when real estate market economists predict about bitcoin, I think we better not hear him. they have not the experience about crypto

and better we choose the opinion of crypto figures.
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June 03, 2018, 06:33:04 AM
#29
Still a lot of discussions about the future of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies surrounding in scientific community. Aren't experts yet convainced that bitcoin is a reality?
In an interview for CNBC, Robert Shiller the professor at Yale University expressed his rather negative sentiment towards Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, saying:

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To me it’s another example of faddish human behavior.
Link to the interview: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/21/bitcoin-could-be-another-failed-currency-robert-shiller-says.html

Shiller consolidated his opinions on Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies in a long post from where i prefered to take this note:

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Practically no one, outside of computer science departments, can explain how cryptocurrencies work, and that mystery creates an aura of exclusivity, gives the new money glamour, and fills devotees with revolutionary zeal, […] None of this is new, and, as with past monetary innovations, a seemingly compelling story may not be enough.
Link to full article: https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/cryptocurrencies-scientific-narrative-by-robert-j--shiller-2018-05


I dont care about the opinion of the old school economists that cant think outside of the box. They are stuck insaide the boundries and wont even asses anything outside. They are afraid to even think about it
I very agree with your opinion, the opinion of economists will only make me hesitate and impede travel.

let them speak freely, they are not people who understand the crypto market, so they speak and predict without knowledge.
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June 03, 2018, 06:39:19 AM
#29
They wont stop to say different BS about bitcoin, why say good news? It is not interesting at all, because, most of media controlled by corporations isn't? Freedom it is not about them
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June 03, 2018, 06:30:24 AM
#28
it is true there are still many topics about the future of bitcoin that needs to be discussed, but Bitcoin described as Bubble should also be discussed, because this bitcoin always moves all the time and has change, the tie is termed as bubble

Exactly, we still have a lot of problems to discuss the future of Bitcoin. But I do not agree with anyone commenting on Bitcoin as a bubble. This is a completely negative and irrational badge.
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June 03, 2018, 06:25:46 AM
#27
It doesn't matter if bitcoin is a bubble or not. If other peoples says so, then for me bitcoin is still not a bubble.
Because i know that bitcoin will exist now and later, not burst and vanish.
newbie
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June 03, 2018, 03:55:48 AM
#26
People are forced to fix losses fear that bitcoin will break through all reasonable levels of support and burst. It's just gonna disappear. The exchanges will close, the farms will be given to homeless people, and Satoshi will hang himself.  But bitcoin is difficult without fundamental reasons to fall below a certain level – it needs to be hammered into your head, even if it resists. And this level is not zero.
Mining cities (this is not even a farm) by the type of Bitmain affect the bitcoin exchange rate. Not so much as to set the price themselves, but at least in emergency cases they can keep the rate at the level of break-even mining. They need to pay for electricity, pay employees, maintain the premises, develop new equipment. The break-even level is somewhere 6-7K. Yes, the farm can pobarahtatsya on the course below, but not very long, they quickly get bored.
Think about this: monopolists bitcoin mining something in no hurry to change the scope of activity. I mean, it doesn't itch at all. They don't buy plutonium, don't change their shoes to build space shuttles. The guys are calm, which means they are sure that they will not lose their billions. By the way, the break-even level is growing all the time following the complexity of production.
The stupidest thing to do now is to withdraw money. Go back cheaper will be very difficult. Near the bottom is generally dangerous to move, here roll only one option – the gradual purchase. Get rid of the harmful idea that bitcoin can become worthless without fundamental reasons. Thought so, and those who last fall said: "why am I not bought it when it cost a thousand?"Perhaps by the end of this year we will hear it again, only with six-seven thousand.
jr. member
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June 01, 2018, 04:49:33 AM
#25
I think it should not be so negative about such statements, in fact most crypto currency is really just bubbles that used the most common PR. But such big cones as Ether, ltc, bitcoin make us think about the correctness of such judgments.
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The world is changing. Traditional market standards don't matter anymore as much as they used to matter years and years ago, but the old school investors have enjoyed a completely different form of education, so they don't realize it.

I am struck by the mainstream confidence that bitcoin is a fraud/fad that will soon collapse, while central bank fiat currencies are presumed to be rock-solid and without risk. Let's think otherwise, if considering bitcoin as a reflection of trust in the future value of fiat currencies which started since its creation (2009). What i want to say that despite all the FAUD remors, bitcoin is a meaningful result of Fiat loosing trust and it's existence (value) doesn't only depends on news and psychology.
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Well, it is happening again and again but I don't think that we should give attention to these things and opinions because we believe that it has the potential to transform the way we live today and it has the potential to optimise our economy not only in finance but also in other sectors by adopting blockchain technology.

Yes it is true that explaining Bitcoin to someone is difficult when it comes to the technical part but we must realise that it is not important to understand each and every aspect of it because there is a huge number of people using internet and email facility but I bet that most of them don't know how the email delivery process actually works, in fact, they don't care about it and the same thing is about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. If using cryptocurrencies has some benefits then most of the people would prefer using it irrespective of their understanding of backend of this technology.
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Still a lot of discussions about the future of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies surrounding in scientific community. Aren't experts yet convainced that bitcoin is a reality?
In an interview for CNBC, Robert Shiller the professor at Yale University expressed his rather negative sentiment towards Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, saying:

Quote
To me it’s another example of faddish human behavior.
Link to the interview: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/21/bitcoin-could-be-another-failed-currency-robert-shiller-says.html

Shiller consolidated his opinions on Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies in a long post from where i prefered to take this note:

Quote
Practically no one, outside of computer science departments, can explain how cryptocurrencies work, and that mystery creates an aura of exclusivity, gives the new money glamour, and fills devotees with revolutionary zeal, […] None of this is new, and, as with past monetary innovations, a seemingly compelling story may not be enough.
Link to full article: https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/cryptocurrencies-scientific-narrative-by-robert-j--shiller-2018-05


it seems like the fud for me. telling everyone bitcoin is a bubble is considered as spreading fud.
but what the most thing i dont understand is why many peoples believe that, and sell their coins with lower price like now.
legendary
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Bitcoin according to traditional market standards will always remain a bubble, especially when you also take into consideration that ignorant bastards think it has zero value and thus should be worthless by default.

The more people speak of Bitcoin as being a bubble and not contain any value, the more confident I am that their ignorant nature will eventually result in a very bad ending for them, to use Warren Buffett's words.

The world is changing. Traditional market standards don't matter anymore as much as they used to matter years and years ago, but the old school investors have enjoyed a completely different form of education, so they don't realize it.
jr. member
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the same thing over and over again
full member
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it is true there are still many topics about the future of bitcoin that needs to be discussed, but Bitcoin described as Bubble should also be discussed, because this bitcoin always moves all the time and has change, the tie is termed as bubble


That's because bitcoin is very high volatile currency that also a reason need to keep understand about what is bitcoin moving up and down their value into the market cap.

the virtual crypto currency including bitcoin are adopting by every country and people because they knows how much important their lives crypto's help for the economic grows, but i didn't understand some economy analysis deliver a negetive information for bitcoin instead support us how to improve bitcoin as currency to help the world economic growth.
sr. member
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if you look just one year before what was the price, or just show who say 'BTC is bubble' that conversation is over immediately.
full member
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Just do not listen to them. Try to ignore them completely. They are of no use. All they are doing is saying some silly stuffs to confuse people for no apparent reason (or for their own benefit?). Do people who are casually uses crypto currencies  need to know how they work? Nope, they don't. How many people in this universe using fiat currencies know how fiat are supplied or made? I bet less than 30% of the population knows.

Personally i don't make a lot of attention to such news but it becomes more crazy to ignore them completely especially when it spreads out from experts (old fashioned ones) that it may easy pump the whole market; remember last fork to bitcoincash when bitcoiners started a foolish swap to altcoins in order to avoid facing price crashes.

This is always happening, who are they??? this are there own comments and they do not control bitcoin, so why they are doing this??? simply they are people who wants to buy bitcoin at cheap price that is why cause FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt, usually evoked intentionally in order to put a competitor at a disadvantage.) or they are bitter who lost a lot of investment when the price of bitcoin drops. Bitcoin will recover and will always recover as long there are people who do trading and using bitcoin as digital currency, they do not control bitcoin they are just doing some negative statements. The main problem is that with just a dip all weak holders are shaking and causing negative effect or panic selling to others simply as saying they are newbies. acutally if you will look at this dips this are great opportunity to earn more just do not look at things as negative.

By dint of the decentralised blockchain, no one can react againt the movement of this technology so traditionel experts with noble prices as traditional governments with Noble also and traditional financial institutions with a lot of prices and quaalifications, try one of the last cards (rumors) so they can prostponed some developement progresses until understanding the whole scene and how they should really react.


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Practically no one, outside of computer science departments, can explain how cryptocurrencies work, and that mystery creates an aura of exclusivity, gives the new money glamour, and fills devotees with revolutionary zeal, […] None of this is new, and, as with past monetary innovations, a seemingly compelling story may not be enough.
Link to full article: https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/cryptocurrencies-scientific-narrative-by-robert-j--shiller-2018-05


I think that this is irrelevant.
It is fairly simple to explain the principle of block chain to new people and how does it work.

Off course the inter workings is not so simple but does one need and does know how SWIFT system works in order to make bank transfer or use other FIAT service.
 

Now principles of blockchain can be explained to children and peoples in local communities. Furthermore, big players in the market (Microsoft,IBM,facebook...) started working on the integration of the new tools (blockchain,cryptocurrencies...) when some called experts try to manipulate the fool in ian ignorant-like way.

the problem as i see it, is the fact that we have turned this wonderful technology into new age stock trading

probably 90% of the people involed in crypto trading do it for the profit. nothing wrong with that. it's just that most of people who own bitcoin/ethereum/xvg/eos or whatever own it, because they want to profit. the percent of people who actually use the technology is imo very low.

and if we eliminate this gambling aspect, 90% of the people leave, yes it will crash the market but it won't kill the technology. technology is revolutionary and it's here to stay. is it a bubble? yes? is it worthless? far from it. and also this bubble has the potential to inflate up by a factor of 10 before it may blow, there is still room.

We haven't turned this technology into a stock trading because it should be a stock of value so people will easy find ways to exchange it.
newbie
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the problem as i see it, is the fact that we have turned this wonderful technology into new age stock trading

probably 90% of the people involed in crypto trading do it for the profit. nothing wrong with that. it's just that most of people who own bitcoin/ethereum/xvg/eos or whatever own it, because they want to profit. the percent of people who actually use the technology is imo very low.

and if we eliminate this gambling aspect, 90% of the people leave, yes it will crash the market but it won't kill the technology. technology is revolutionary and it's here to stay. is it a bubble? yes? is it worthless? far from it. and also this bubble has the potential to inflate up by a factor of 10 before it may blow, there is still room.
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