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Quote from: Oshosondy on January 05, 2025, 04:14:44 AM

Quote from: KiaKia on January 05, 2025, 02:48:59 AM

Something big is coming to gambling world via AI agents.

There is nothing big that is coming through AI agents. AI agents does not means people will be able to place bets and be winning than losing. AI agent does not offer high rate winning but it offers ability to place bets fast. This is one of the innovations that I am not interested in at all.

That’s so funny, couldn’t believe you said it but yeah, as much as we like to think that AI is going to revolutionize almost every field and how this can apply in gambling, I think even the gambling industry have got tech to put that in check.

In fact, techs that wouldn’t allow bets in real time and that alone is enough to put AI betting in check. You can hope that AI would place bets seconds after an event has played and thereby, you make a win out of it. Mind you, even such bets could be void you know. Then, we would have users complaining in the scam accusation board of how certain casinos void their bets and have scammed them even with their scam tactics.

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Quote from: KiaKia on January 05, 2025, 02:48:59 AM

Before you judge I think you should try and see what AI agents are capable of, I think Vegas is screwed.

AI agents now has the ability to act extremely quickly as in game events take place.
AI agents can place bets across 10+ on chain sports books all simultaneously the second the player breaks past the defense, there has been nothing more mindblowing than this so far.

It could sound too good to be true but it is true.

Web3 sportsbooksaportabooks will become increasingly more efficient due to the capabilities and volumes of these AI agents.

Something big is coming to gambling world via AI agents.

If this does not favor the casinos and lead to massive increase in winnings, I bet you that it will be banned in gambling because the casinos will not want to risk going out of business. If outright ban is not possible, they will simply remove live bets and that will fix the situation completely. Meanwhile, there is no guarantee that player will score when they break past the defense because we have seen several cases of such goals being missed. It happened twice in the match between Liverpool and Manchester United today so it is a common thing in gambling.

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I’ve always hold the opinion that it’s going to take a lot before AI are able to affect our gambling results but with the rapid development of intelligence on a daily basis I’m beginning to think that it might just be possible.

I don’t know how this one will affect or how it’s quick reaction time will change the outcome of gambling but I feel very soon we’ll see greater and more developed AIs that might just be able to change the future of gambling; with constant development of AIs more jobs are being at risk of losing people and being replaced with AI and gambling just might be one of them as soon as any of them is able to increase winning rate.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on January 05, 2025, 04:14:44 AM

Quote from: KiaKia on January 05, 2025, 02:48:59 AM

Something big is coming to gambling world via AI agents.

There is nothing big that is coming through AI agents. AI agents does not means people will be able to place bets and be winning than losing. AI agent does not offer high rate winning but it offers ability to place bets fast. This is one of the innovations that I am not interested in at all.

Of course, AI agents will only provide gambling as more engaging and secured environment, but will never guarantee fast winning when gambling. The edge is still on the house, it will always be. While AI agents can encourage responsible gambling, but it's still on the gambler itself if he still gamble irresponsibly and risk money more than he can afford to lose.

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Quote from: memehunter on January 05, 2025, 03:03:10 AM

As far as I know, on-chain sports books are quite slow, especially when placing bets during live betting. If you think AI agents can beat in terms of speed (exploiting time difference for updating odds) you might be right but this scenario will only last temporarily as casino owners will quickly fix that.
Regarding any other -ve games casinos will always have an edge so there is no question of AI agents beating casinos in the long term.
Having said that there are a few areas where this might make sense like RTA (real-time assistance) in Poker with AI agent which can quickly scan through GTO strategies will be much more difficult to identify let alone ban.
Another one is it might help gamblers to stay away from emotional aspects which can lead to more winnings.

IMO it will help to significantly reduce house edge of online casino games, by counting cards at blackjack, baccarat, casino poker games, teen patti, andar bahar and other table card games and their side bet options. So if the player benefits from a cashback, bonuses or any promotion, he's very likely to be able to reverse negative EVs into positive ones for himself. For the roulette games, if the dealers only close the bets after throwing the ball, like they are still doing, maybe some AI systems will one day be able to predict the correct sector of the wheel reached by the ball.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on January 05, 2025, 04:04:31 AM

I have my serious doubts about the actual use of these AI agents or "bots" - we have had same things in trading and they only automate your trades and nothing more.

If you have a similar thing in gambling on sports, you will also be running a similar thing. It will automate the process but will never be able to change your odds. Head to head comparisons are tough - a proper cross sectional study might bring out the real thing, but nobody wants to do that and get spanked by big tech.

people hype up AI thinking that it would allow humans to take a step back and somehow still get the end results they want but AI can’t function on their own or at least not yet they need information fed to them by us humans so you still need to operate the AI for it to function the way you want it to one way or another

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We are about to find out what really AI gents can do in gambling. It is an AI and supposedly it can analyze data that bettors who have been around for a while, have been analyzing data as well. It's just a question of what sort of data and the source of the data.

If the data that AI agents are analyzing also comes from the sports betting platform then there is a chance that they really are going to be wrecked. There was already a prediction AI for sports, its almost got the same data analysis from the team's statistics.

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Quote from: KiaKia on January 05, 2025, 02:48:59 AM

Before you judge I think you should try and see what AI agents are capable of, I think Vegas is screwed.

AI agents now has the ability to act extremely quickly as in game events take place.
AI agents can place bets across 10+ on chain sports books all simultaneously the second the player breaks past the defense, there has been nothing more mindblowing than this so far.

It could sound too good to be true but it is true.

Web3 sportsbooksaportabooks will become increasingly more efficient due to the capabilities and volumes of these AI agents.

Something big is coming to gambling world via AI agents.

I have written this many times in response to this AI agents. No one should think that AI is going to help win. If there is any percentage of people winning their bets through AI it is only going to be a very small number and the type of AI agents they are using are not yet commercialized. It is going to be the advanced of the advanced type. Sportsbooks are also going to have their own AI agents to detect when an account involves AI in its betting. AI agents are here to stay and there is soon going to be a regulation on responsible AI use in gambling.

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Quote from: Strongkored on January 05, 2025, 06:36:20 AM

AI only helps gamblers to be able to place bets fasters, not increase the winning rate because if that happens, the casino will be the first party to prohibit the use of AI, and also AI cannot possibly know the exact results of the match so this technology is almost the same as a bot in trading which makes everything more automatic, so no casino, either online or offline, will be messed up by the use of AI.

Yes, AI can help gamblers place bets faster, but AI cannot increase the chances of winning in gambling. If AI can predict the outcome of a match or bet, then people will always participate in gambling using AI. Also we will always participate in gambling using AI and win every bet by predicting AI trends and making a lot of money from gambling platforms. I always believe that AI is not bringing anything fast for humans. We will always participate in gambling with our predictions, and yes we will not be confused by using any AI.

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AI agents aren't fortune tellers. They predict based on past events, therefore, there aren't any assurances they are going to predict 100% accurately the next move of a player on the field. Let's say AI agents are fast enough to place a bet on the exact moment the player broke the defenses of the rival team: it doesn't mean a goal is going to be scored, because the goalkeeper can still defend the shot, or the offensive player can miss the final shot. There are still different variables, which the AI can't predict with certain which of them is going to take place for real.

Such promises of a new experience in gambling through AI and the claim casinos are despaired about this technology are just bluffs used by AI developers who are attempting to create some hype around it for financial gains. Casinos are never scared as long as they have the mathematical advantage through the house edge factor, besides future events not being possible to be predicted by fortune tellers, who are in fact charlatans.

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Quote from: crwth on January 05, 2025, 09:09:45 AM

If this were to happen efficiently, there would be a change in the pace of gambling and probably strategies that affect the odds. I think AI agents are here to stay, and they are to improve our daily lives in some ways. If gambling is one of them, then so be it; we could adapt to something like that.

I see it as a big trend in every industry.

We can't say yet if the use of AI becomes efficient, but many of us assume already the passive results it creates. I think we also have to welcome it unless it is proven wrong.

If some casinos are already embracing new developments, we can expect others to do the same. We are still in the trial stage and expect changes once done. But we can think already that we're going that way, which casinos employ more AI than humans.

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If this were to happen efficiently, there would be a change in the pace of gambling and probably strategies that affect the odds. I think AI agents are here to stay, and they are to improve our daily lives in some ways. If gambling is one of them, then so be it; we could adapt to something like that.

I see it as a big trend in every industry.

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Quote from: KiaKia on January 05, 2025, 02:48:59 AM

Before you judge I think you should try and see what AI agents are capable of, I think Vegas is screwed.

AI agents now has the ability to act extremely quickly as in game events take place.
AI agents can place bets across 10+ on chain sports books all simultaneously the second the player breaks past the defense, there has been nothing more mindblowing than this so far.

It could sound too good to be true but it is true.

Web3 sportsbooksaportabooks will become increasingly more efficient due to the capabilities and volumes of these AI agents.

Something big is coming to gambling world via AI agents.

I know I can simply Google search this to find out more details about this Ai agent you are talking about, and to confirm if you are indeed right or not, but still, you would have maybe; included a link through which we can read more about this.

I really have never read or heard about this anywhere before, so, this is my very first time of reading about this, but one thing I am going to say I am very certain about is that if this Ai agent is going to jeopardize most casinos and make them vulnerable to gamblers/sports bettors, then I believe that by now, casinos that this will potentially affect should already be looking around for some form of immunity against the agent.
I definitely will have to find information on this and read more about it, then alone will I be sure of what are really talking about, and tell for sure whether it's something casinos should become afraid of.

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So casinos and sportsbooks might stop paying affiliates since AI is now taking over their role. This move could maximize profits while being more efficient and effective. However, wouldn’t this make competition even tighter? If everyone starts using AI to attract gamblers, it might turn into a race to see who can deploy the most advanced and creative strategies.

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Recently AI is one of the most powerful tool recently, still to make a bet with the AI it must need to have a navigation with the user, recently I've seen some of the casino offering a different approach of betting such as the use of the automation of bot with the telegram platform which you can instantly make a bet without hassle and doesn't need to go to the platform at all just to choose the event and the amount you would like to bet, casino giving their efforts to give the most efficient way to the user seems not all are still widely acceptable with this approach until now but sooner or later it will become normalize it seems.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on January 05, 2025, 07:11:24 AM

Good, it will be more efficient and provide better speed than now but does not provide any assistance to increase the chance of winning, I think not all gamblers will like it because we ourselves also understand that gamblers today are much more interested and like various offers to help them win not just to help speed up betting.
See there are many betting prediction services and it is really always filled with customers who want to get prediction analysis, even these people are willing to pay some money to get predictions as desired, if AI can develop more advanced with prediction services that can be better at analyzing and providing predictions that can increase the chance of winning maybe it can be more attention and interest for many gamblers.

AI will based their predictions based on the available internet data. So we can't fully guarantee their speculations as there are still some blindspots such as current weather condition, change of tactics, last minute change of line up, new coach and other uncertainties in the game. We can consult their predictions but not totally relying from their predictions. But their inputs will surely help you gauge on how you select the odds and the potential outcome. And you can consider some insights that you haven't seen yet and the AI just showed you the potential angles of the game.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on January 05, 2025, 04:04:31 AM

I have my serious doubts about the actual use of these AI agents or "bots" - we have had same things in trading and they only automate your trades and nothing more.

If you have a similar thing in gambling on sports, you will also be running a similar thing. It will automate the process but will never be able to change your odds. Head to head comparisons are tough - a proper cross sectional study might bring out the real thing, but nobody wants to do that and get spanked by big tech.

Now if they bring in robots do the Live dealer thing, that is a complete turn off, I like to see my dealers live and kicking, no bots, please.

I believe OP may be over-estimating the capabilities and the consequences the introduction of Artificial intelligence will have within the world of betting, to be honest. Sure, Artificial intelligence is a powerful technology and may lead to further automation of processes, but AI bots won't still be able to predicts outcomes, in the same way a human being cannot, the only difference between a human being and an AI is the speed of processing the same amount of information, which is publicly available for anyone to see on the internet. That is all.

Even if there is some way AI could be abused and started to affect big markets like this in Las Vegas, the centralized and traditional options will just update and adapt to modern times, instead just sitting down and do nothing.

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maybe in this case AI agents are able to place bets on more platforms, but that doesn't matter since AI agents can't predict exactly what the outcome of the bet will be, what these AI agents do is just analyze and place bets, and that's it, I don't think that betting platforms or even Vegas will be afraid of how these AI agents will work.

casinos must have predicted that the development of AI technology could lead to something that might not be profitable for them, but they will definitely adapt to it by developing an AI system that can learn the betting patterns produced by AI. they can employ their own AI systems to analyze and identify patterns in betting behavior, including those of AI agents, allowing them to adjust odds dynamically and maintain their profitability.

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Good, it will be more efficient and provide better speed than now but does not provide any assistance to increase the chance of winning, I think not all gamblers will like it because we ourselves also understand that gamblers today are much more interested and like various offers to help them win not just to help speed up betting.
See there are many betting prediction services and it is really always filled with customers who want to get prediction analysis, even these people are willing to pay some money to get predictions as desired, if AI can develop more advanced with prediction services that can be better at analyzing and providing predictions that can increase the chance of winning maybe it can be more attention and interest for many gamblers.

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You hyped this more than it actually is, so I term it too-good-to-be-true. Perhaps, it's working for you now to make you this confident, but it's exploitative, this can't be for long. As AI is being developed in diverse ways and being targeted against bookies, bookies too aren't relenting in the defence of their assets and business. On-change betting can't also be exploited as easily as you think undetected and if it has to be slower for more verification before the order is passed, then bookies will do that to safeguard their investments.

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