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legendary
Activity: 1722
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March 22, 2015, 12:22:28 AM
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I don't believe following bitcoin's distribution model is the best idea if you want to create a "currency". Odd I know, haha.


This is mostly a separate discussion, but either complete-information monetary policies are best, or human-controlled ones are. The idea that one tweak of some complete-info algorithmic policy is better than another tweak of a complete-info algorithmic monetary policy is ridiculous and fundamentally misunderstands what monetary policy does.

Specifically, monetary policy in the central banking era seeks to attenuate peaks and troughs of natural economic activity through explicit human action. The overarching assumption, which is probably correct, is that the instantaneous supply optimum for some future date cannot be known with much certainty beforehand. So the solution the world has come to today is to give control over that supply number to a studious committee of economic custodians. The idea is that they'll be better able to determine today's optimal supply than some pre-set policy.

Bitcoin changes the question entirely and simply posits that maybe perfect knowledge of future supply, by all economic participants, will allow for more optimal allocation (by businesses/humans) today, and that perhaps this will more naturally attenuate the tendency of economies to generate large peaks and troughs. Whether you have a monetary policy with a fixed supply, 2% inflationary forever, or something else, shouldn't matter in this context so long as all economic participants have complete knowledge of the dynamics. So trying to tweak the alg doesn't matter.

But adding alt-coins that don't support the dominant monetary policy (bitcoin's) does matter, because that action implicitly erodes the perfect-information base of this entire experiment.
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
eidoo wallet
March 21, 2015, 11:42:34 PM

The company is the sole miner of AI Coin. The 7,200 aicoins created each day will be sold on an exchange or otherwise directly paid for expenses.
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Wait... What happened to:


Will the initial distribution of wealth in Bitcoin-PoS be exactly as per the unspent outputs in the bitcoin blockchain at a certain point in time in the future, or will you consider redistribution of wealth if you find popular support for it?

I would keep the blockchain as is....


Edit: cuz I'll support a project which preserves the effective scarcity of bitcoin (if the tech, etc, is good), thereby supporting the idea that cryptocurrency can be scarce and therefore valuable.

But if you are creating an alt-coin that doesn't tie into bitcoin's ledger (ie, the utxo-set), you are directly attacking the notion of crypto-scarcity, and therefore the idea that crypto-currency can be good money. In which case I will vocally not support this project. And FWIW, I've been approached in the real-world by your representatives.


Lost coins would have to be accounted for wouldn't they? Be too scarce and you risk losing the title of "currency"(Lack of liquidity). I find it odd that many people here use the word currency, but through their arguments, instead, support the notion of commodity. I know that the "too scarce" aspect would be eliminated if we used the term "bits" instead of "bitcoin"(denominations), but just talking in terms of full bit/coins.

I don't believe following bitcoin's distribution model is the best idea if you want to create a "currency". Odd I know, haha.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1003
March 21, 2015, 11:30:16 PM

The company is the sole miner of AI Coin. The 7,200 aicoins created each day will be sold on an exchange or otherwise directly paid for expenses.
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Wait... What happened to:


Will the initial distribution of wealth in Bitcoin-PoS be exactly as per the unspent outputs in the bitcoin blockchain at a certain point in time in the future, or will you consider redistribution of wealth if you find popular support for it?

I would keep the blockchain as is....


Edit: cuz I'll support a project which preserves the effective scarcity of bitcoin (if the tech, etc, is good), thereby supporting the idea that cryptocurrency can be scarce and therefore valuable.

But if you are creating an alt-coin that doesn't tie into bitcoin's ledger (ie, the utxo-set), you are directly attacking the notion of crypto-scarcity, and therefore the idea that crypto-currency can be good money. In which case I will vocally not support this project. And FWIW, I've been approached in the real-world by your representatives.
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 500
March 15, 2015, 02:20:16 AM
Your business development model resembles Ripple.
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 501
Stephen Reed
March 10, 2015, 11:10:08 PM
Would I be able to mine AI coin? Or just buy on exchange?
And are there already uses for it when it launches?

The company is the sole miner of AI Coin. The 7,200 aicoins created each day will be sold on an exchange or otherwise directly paid for expenses.

AI Coin, the company, will initially own the aicoins minted each day, and will transparently pay expenses with them, or with fiat obtained from daily sold aicoins. Our expenses are planned to optimally promote the value of aicoin, and to benefit our community. We will hold a substantial reserve in fiat to cover customer losses that are our fault. We will pursue both a Bit License for New York State operation, and Money Services Business licenses in the 50 US States, as well as similar licensing in other jurisdictions that are important to our customers.

We are seeking integration with at least one payment processor before launch, and that depends on obtaining an exchange before launch.
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
March 10, 2015, 10:28:09 AM
Would I be able to mine AI coin? Or just buy on exchange?
And are there already uses for it when it launches?
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 501
Stephen Reed
March 02, 2015, 05:26:51 PM
Hi everyone.

Drew Hingorani, myself, and our active community plan to launch AI Coin at the Inside Bitcoins Conference New York, April 27-29. I have been silent the past few months here as we worked on the first provisional patent covering our solution to what we characterize as certain Bitcoin problems.

We now have a dedicated modern forum where you can see technical information, as well as our pre-launch activities. The super peer demonstration network has been minting 50 test aicoins every 10 minutes for over 60 days. We have branded a MultiBit wallet for AI Coin, which you can download for Windows. We have a branded QT wallet for the Mac. You can see our minting and transaction activity on our branded Insight Blockchain explorer.

Our chief innovation vs Bitcoin for customers is that AI Coin has immediate settlement - sub second response time. The QT and MultiBit wallets have been modified to permit immediate spending of received transactions. Our chief innovation for the business is that our cooperative mining secures the blockchain with network-wide algorithmic trustworthiness, and without conventional mining expense.

AI Coin, the company, will initially own the aicoins minted each day, and will transparently pay expenses with them, or with fiat obtained from daily sold aicoins. Our expenses are planned to optimally promote the value of aicoin, and to benefit our community. We will hold a substantial reserve in fiat to cover customer losses that are our fault. We will pursue both a Bit License for New York State operation, and Money Services Business licenses in the 50 US States, as well as similar licensing in other jurisdictions that are important to our customers.

Customers can buy aicoins from an exchange after launch, or can perform specified tasks as contractors for us and be paid in aicoins. The company will subsidize certain customer, payment processor and merchant activities to give aicoin a comparative advantage over other crytptocurrencies with regard to transaction friction. Our transaction fees will be 100x lower relative to Bitcoin and we will likewise accommodate microtransactions.

Important among our contractors are the operators of our network. We plan to pay $1000 per month to super peer operators which host their servers in DDoS-protected secure datacenters. We anticipate having enough of these in the network backbone to claim that AI Coin is more decentralized than Bitcoin with regard to the geographical locations in which new blocks are added to the blockchain. Likewise we plan to pay $50 per month to operators of ordinary computers that dedicate home or office computers 24/7 for the purpose of archiving the AI Coin blockchain. We need between 50 - 100 of the archiving peers to assure redundancy, and to have plenty of network gateways for customer wallets.

We have a growing, active community who contribute ideas, artwork, programming, social networking and so on. They enthusiastically want to bring AI Coin to the mainstream.

Our forum:  ai-cointalk.org .
Website: ai-coin.org
Demonstration blockchain explorer: texai.dyndns.org:3000

Join Us

-Stephen Reed
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
February 28, 2015, 10:47:33 PM
I agree with rpietila, theymos might do an old timer a favor and change his name, but his time is too limited to do it for the rest of us.

It probably has got far too big for that now - but at least newbies won't really lose anything by creating a new account.

You can also buy senior accounts (assuming one for sale has a name you like) for well under 1 BTC.
sr. member
Activity: 310
Merit: 250
February 28, 2015, 03:02:12 PM
He is talking about being a donator in order to change your username.

I changed my user name - and it cost me nothing (just a request to @theymos).

@theymos is a good guy but it does not mean he would change the usernames for random newbies, so consider yourselves a part of old guard  Grin

Here is what the staff member Eal F. Skillz has to say about whether it's possible to have your username changed.


I don't think theymos have time for this anymore. Just create a new account if you don't like this username or be a donator.

PM theymos and ask him very nicely.

The forum is too big for this now.  Staff, donators, and VIP can do it... so my suggestion is donate 10 BTC or create a new account.
Contact theymos he will change it for you.
No he won't, stop bothering the admin with rubbish like this or are you just posting for the sake of your prime dice payouts?

OP, name changes are only available to donators, vip and staff members.

Here's what the administrator BadBear has to say about getting theymos to change a username.

Just make the new account, nobody cares if you have more than one. Go nuts.

I agree with rpietila, theymos might do an old timer a favor and change his name, but his time is too limited to do it for the rest of us.
sr. member
Activity: 310
Merit: 250
February 28, 2015, 02:50:34 PM
What's happened to this project?

This project is not a rush job. According to the OP is a multi-year effort. He is trying to create a new innovation instead of the usual cut and paste job.

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The A.I. Coin project is a multi-year effort to achieve a no-proof-of-work mining implementation in an cryptocurrency that ...

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anybody with the name biggus dickus is a person that I'm guessing wouldn't lie, no?

I take offence at that remark, biggus dickus is my real name.
donator
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1036
February 28, 2015, 02:37:09 PM
He is talking about being a donator in order to change your username.

I changed my user name - and it cost me nothing (just a request to @theymos).

@theymos is a good guy but it does not mean he would change the usernames for random newbies, so consider yourselves a part of old guard  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1000
I owe my soul to the Bitcoin code...
February 28, 2015, 11:21:01 AM
Well then I am not sure what he is referencing in that bit, lol.  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1078
Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
February 28, 2015, 11:20:19 AM
He is talking about being a donator in order to change your username.

I changed my user name - and it cost me nothing (just a request to @theymos).

So I am not sure exactly the point (apart from that you can change your username without requesting a mod to do so if you have that status).
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1000
I owe my soul to the Bitcoin code...
February 28, 2015, 11:18:34 AM
He is talking about being a donator in order to change your username.
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1078
Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
February 28, 2015, 11:14:09 AM
...and changing the name in the forum costs $2,500?

Sorry but in what forum does it cost $2,500 to change your user name?
donator
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1036
February 28, 2015, 06:12:16 AM
I would not go against established members with 3 months / 100 posts experience.  Tongue

Do you realize the guy is 45 years older than you, and changing the name in the forum costs $2,500? He's had 1000x gains from Bitcoin and in the old days, stupid names were ok.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
February 28, 2015, 02:16:00 AM
I'm sure you are a legit guy.... but that name is terrible.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
February 28, 2015, 02:14:10 AM
Thanks for your reply.

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The peer that hosts the mint is selected by the configuration agent from among the super-peers. The simplest method is to take-turns round-robin. The duration of the mint responsibility is a parameter that can be adjusted. Given that the mint hosting schedule can be efficiently published in advance to all peers, then the mint hosting duration could be anywhere from 10 minutes to perhaps one week.

But what are the (objective) criteria by which the mint role is assigned? My worry is that there is no valuable/scarce resource necessary to become the mint and therefore control the network...

The most valuable resources (for an attacker) seem to be "node-stake" and the quantity of nodes since everyone seems to be able to become a super peer no matter of his stake size (correct?). Isn't this much easier to achieve than pure stake?

A.I. Coin will launch with a minimum of five super peers, located in geographically dispersed datacenters.  The founding super peer operators will vet candidates that become new super peers when needed due to growing transaction volume.

A joining node cannot become a super peer otherwise.



and anyone with a name "slipper slope" should be somebody I can totally trust to give my money to, no?

just saying....
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
February 28, 2015, 02:12:41 AM
What's happened to this project?

This project is not a rush job. According to the OP is a multi-year effort. He is trying to create a new innovation instead of the usual cut and paste job.

...........

The A.I. Coin project is a multi-year effort to achieve a no-proof-of-work mining implementation in an cryptocurrency that ...

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anybody with the name biggus dickus is a person that I'm guessing wouldn't lie, no?
sr. member
Activity: 310
Merit: 250
February 27, 2015, 06:00:35 PM
What's happened to this project?

This project is not a rush job. According to the OP is a multi-year effort. He is trying to create a new innovation instead of the usual cut and paste job.

...........

The A.I. Coin project is a multi-year effort to achieve a no-proof-of-work mining implementation in an cryptocurrency that ...

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