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legendary
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January 30, 2020, 03:09:23 AM
#56
Sure, bitcoin ain't there yet. Opperative word being 'yet'.
Sure more things aint there? Is it? You can keep speculating and thinking more and more but you would be wasting time because you are not the ones developing bitcoin core. What needs more work in the adoption of bitcoin use by public and merchants accepting bitcoin. This is still very cultish and needs more honest entrepreneurs and not shitcoins that are pump and dump. Apart from the fact that it is rare to find such projects.

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The internet itself is still relatively young and evolving rapidly.
Is that not applicable to everything that you can think of? Your judgement is clouded by biased opinions. Not saying that bitcoin would not be big, but the mode of making a conclusion from your side is wrong.
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January 29, 2020, 10:59:44 PM
#55
I'm sorry to let you know that Bitcoin has not really gotten to the level it can be compared or associated with air and water. Air and water are the basic necessities of life and without these two, life can't be really possible. Bitcoin on the other hand is not the basic necessity of the financial ecosystem and not everybody in the entire knows about Bitcoin. Bitcoin has a long time to be classified as a basic necessity.

Sure, bitcoin ain't there yet. Opperative word being 'yet'.

The internet itself is still relatively young and evolving rapidly.

I be a boomer and still remember telephone booths, home milk delivery, and life before plastic straws.. Grin
sr. member
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January 29, 2020, 12:49:12 PM
#54
I'm sorry to let you know that Bitcoin has not really gotten to the level it can be compared or associated with air and water. Air and water are the basic necessities of life and without these two, life can't be really possible. Bitcoin on the other hand is not the basic necessity of the financial ecosystem and not everybody in the entire knows about Bitcoin. Bitcoin has a long time to be classified as a basic necessity.
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January 29, 2020, 12:14:01 PM
#53
Past human history is checkered with currency manipulation and conflict..

Bitcoin and cryptocurrency has been filed with manipulation and conflict! We've seen fraud, theft, in-fighting, consolidation of mining operations, blockchain hijack attempts (in the form of forks), and more theft. There's nothing about cryptocurrency that is inherently peaceful or humane.

Cryptocurrency/blockchain offers more freedom to users. We are no longer controlled by an intermediary called a bank, we are the managers of our own financial system, if we want to be. It's in that freedom that come greater choice and control, but it also requires greater knowledge of how the system works and the risks involved.

I appreciate your positivity, but let's be honest here. Cryptocurrency is like the wild west!

I am also still very positive about Bitcoin but I would agree, I myself being a victim of hacking and theft, have lost a lot of my hard-earned money to cyber and Crypto criminals. I have lost more from criminals stealing my Bitcoin and other coins than I have ever had with real-life FIAT. Having said that, I am still a big advocate of decentralization and would not change being a part of this movement. I just wish there was less criminality in this space and ardent greed. There is just too much of it right now to attract the average Joe to come in and mass adoption to take place. We need more safeguards for that to happen.

You can blame peoples greed for that. People who fall for scams and the like just encourage the criminals even more. The way some people blidnly follow links and then wonder why their funds are gone. Mostly is is people not being responsible that get hacked and have their funds stolen. Any crack you leave the criminals will come in and take. It isn't always the victims fault though, sometimes you get really vlever criminals but on average they pretty stupid.
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January 29, 2020, 12:03:11 PM
#52
Without air and water life no worka.

P2P commerce is also essential.

Past human history is checkered with currency manipulation and conflict..

Enter a new element for humanity; trustless p2p currency, globally decentralized...

Something humanity has been craving since the dawn of human history.

 Cool

I get your point about p2p, decentralization, and all other transactions that involves money, e-commerce  and financial advantages, but comparing It to air and water is completely out of context. First thing comes to my mind after I read your post is the level of greed that taking over your whole body and soul. You are the kind of person who will trade nature over the latest and high technology without any hesitation.

Incase you forgot your history. People from the past 500 years or so live without a piece of money.

How did you get to that conclusion based on what that person said? How do you know they will trade nature for technology. I think many people would do that anyway. They do not think it out.
There most certainly was money 500 years ago. I was in the form of rare metals minted into coins. Money has been a concept since the medieval times and before then we would trade. Trading is sort of like money but is very limited and that is where the coins came in. You also would not have to carry much around with you in order to trade just a pouch full of coins. Instead of a whole caravan full of goods to trade. I know salt and spices were also traded frequently.
This is the first time in human history the existence of p2p currency incorruptable by government.
It is a human culture game changer.
I do not completely get your idea of human culture game changer? Are you talking about the shift that has occur over the period of time that has involved people in trading with digital currency instead of fiat currencies? Or you are talking about the shift as you said for the first time p2p currency has been declared trustworthy by the government? How it has been honest or trustworthy?
legendary
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January 29, 2020, 11:08:20 AM
#51
Bitcoin is a smart way to checkmate capitalism and evil transaction fees of the bank and its centralized system. I hope the world government accepts bitcoin soon and makes it legal in all their nations and equally see the need to support it in all sense rather always criticizing it.
Man, the majority of the country is welcoming bitcoin, and you can freely use your bitcoin there. No banks and government are criticizing the bitcoin LOL. Bitcoin is widely accepted today, and a lot of businesses are accepting it, especially the online business, It's just like real money LOL. The government is still taxing the businesses that are using bitcoin (legal business/registered), and people are free to use it. There's no checkmate capitalism shit here, both types of currency are working perfectly, and I think they are just doing fine.
legendary
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January 29, 2020, 09:19:04 AM
#50
I wouldn't go that far and say that Bitcoin is imperative for our existence. We as humans can adapt to almost anything, but we need time. Bitcoin would be an enormous upgrade to our way of living and greatly improve the transparency and efficiency of all the industries out there, thus we need to make our best efforts to accelerate its adoption & implictly the implementation of blockchain technologies.
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January 28, 2020, 11:05:00 PM
#49
Without air and water life no worka.

P2P commerce is also essential.

Past human history is checkered with currency manipulation and conflict..

Enter a new element for humanity; trustless p2p currency, globally decentralized...

Something humanity has been craving since the dawn of human history.

 Cool

I get your point about p2p, decentralization, and all other transactions that involves money, e-commerce  and financial advantages, but comparing It to air and water is completely out of context. First thing comes to my mind after I read your post is the level of greed that taking over your whole body and soul. You are the kind of person who will trade nature over the latest and high technology without any hesitation.

Incase you forgot your history. People from the past 500 years or so live without a piece of money.

How did you get to that conclusion based on what that person said? How do you know they will trade nature for technology. I think many people would do that anyway. They do not think it out.
There most certainly was money 500 years ago. I was in the form of rare metals minted into coins. Money has been a concept since the medieval times and before then we would trade. Trading is sort of like money but is very limited and that is where the coins came in. You also would not have to carry much around with you in order to trade just a pouch full of coins. Instead of a whole caravan full of goods to trade. I know salt and spices were also traded frequently.
This is the first time in human history the existence of p2p currency incorruptable by government.
It is a human culture game changer.
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January 28, 2020, 08:41:54 AM
#48
Past human history is checkered with currency manipulation and conflict..

Bitcoin and cryptocurrency has been filed with manipulation and conflict! We've seen fraud, theft, in-fighting, consolidation of mining operations, blockchain hijack attempts (in the form of forks), and more theft. There's nothing about cryptocurrency that is inherently peaceful or humane.

Cryptocurrency/blockchain offers more freedom to users. We are no longer controlled by an intermediary called a bank, we are the managers of our own financial system, if we want to be. It's in that freedom that come greater choice and control, but it also requires greater knowledge of how the system works and the risks involved.

I appreciate your positivity, but let's be honest here. Cryptocurrency is like the wild west!
This is absolutely right and also, as we can see how the effect of bitcoin and other cryptocurrency made a big difference and influence to many people on how they get rid of their financial problems.We also see how many problems and hindrances come but this not block the goal of technology, to help and give opportunities to have some money to use in our daily lives. We become free from the banks who controls the money and financial system of our own country. We also gain knowledge out of it on how we become more wealthy in investing.This is the new beginning for us to do what we want, and to have what we want.
hero member
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January 28, 2020, 02:42:15 AM
#47
Without air and water life no worka.

P2P commerce is also essential.

Past human history is checkered with currency manipulation and conflict..

Enter a new element for humanity; trustless p2p currency, globally decentralized...

Something humanity has been craving since the dawn of human history.

 Cool

~snip~

How did you get to that conclusion based on what that person said? How do you know they will trade nature for technology. I think many people would do that anyway. They do not think it out.

Well, you've answered your own question. See, "many people would do that anyway". Comparing the nature's essential characteristics to a technology is simply a sign of greed.



There most certainly was money 500 years ago. I was in the form of rare metals minted into coins. Money has been a concept since the medieval times and before then we would trade. Trading is sort of like money but is very limited and that is where the coins came in. You also would not have to carry much around with you in order to trade just a pouch full of coins. Instead of a whole caravan full of goods to trade. I know salt and spices were also traded frequently.

The idea of making a coin to use it as a primary medium of trading in the medieval period is still irrelevant in the list of how necessary is the air and water for the people. But before this precious rate of metal was discovered by humanity, their trading system was based on barter trading, where supplies will be traded for another supplies.
sr. member
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January 28, 2020, 12:09:43 AM
#46
If you talk about being safe, I don’t really think that cryptocurrency is 100% safe as some people think it is. The only good thing about cryptocurrency is that it gives us freedom, apart from that freedom if you talk about security , it is good but not completely perfect.

We know for sure that Bitcoin has been manipulated a lot of times and apart from bitcoin, other cryptocurrencies in the market are not an exception, they have all been part of it. I have even seen people that believe that Bitcoin can help stop crime seriously, there is nothing like stopping. Bitcoin doesn’t do magic, it won’t magically make the economy better or stop crimes and make the world a better place. Making the world a better place is up to us.
sr. member
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January 27, 2020, 01:06:06 PM
#45
Without air and water life no worka.

P2P commerce is also essential.

Past human history is checkered with currency manipulation and conflict..

Enter a new element for humanity; trustless p2p currency, globally decentralized...

Something humanity has been craving since the dawn of human history.

 Cool

I get your point about p2p, decentralization, and all other transactions that involves money, e-commerce  and financial advantages, but comparing It to air and water is completely out of context. First thing comes to my mind after I read your post is the level of greed that taking over your whole body and soul. You are the kind of person who will trade nature over the latest and high technology without any hesitation.

Incase you forgot your history. People from the past 500 years or so live without a piece of money.

How did you get to that conclusion based on what that person said? How do you know they will trade nature for technology. I think many people would do that anyway. They do not think it out.
There most certainly was money 500 years ago. I was in the form of rare metals minted into coins. Money has been a concept since the medieval times and before then we would trade. Trading is sort of like money but is very limited and that is where the coins came in. You also would not have to carry much around with you in order to trade just a pouch full of coins. Instead of a whole caravan full of goods to trade. I know salt and spices were also traded frequently.
hero member
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January 27, 2020, 04:49:12 AM
#44
Without air and water life no worka.

P2P commerce is also essential.

Past human history is checkered with currency manipulation and conflict..

Enter a new element for humanity; trustless p2p currency, globally decentralized...

Something humanity has been craving since the dawn of human history.

 Cool

I get your point about p2p, decentralization, and all other transactions that involves money, e-commerce  and financial advantages, but comparing It to air and water is completely out of context. First thing comes to my mind after I read your post is the level of greed that taking over your whole body and soul. You are the kind of person who will trade nature over the latest and high technology without any hesitation.

Incase you forgot your history. People from the past 500 years or so live without a piece of money.

And what made you so sure that if in case that happens, it would still be bitcoin? A lot of things can change in very little time and the use of btc may be obsolete with fiat working with another kind of online currency. Too much bias on bitcoin or crypto in this. Bitcoin is necessary, but we can live without it.
legendary
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January 27, 2020, 03:53:20 AM
#43
Past human history is checkered with currency manipulation and conflict..

Bitcoin and cryptocurrency has been filed with manipulation and conflict! We've seen fraud, theft, in-fighting, consolidation of mining operations, blockchain hijack attempts (in the form of forks), and more theft. There's nothing about cryptocurrency that is inherently peaceful or humane.

Cryptocurrency/blockchain offers more freedom to users. We are no longer controlled by an intermediary called a bank, we are the managers of our own financial system, if we want to be. It's in that freedom that come greater choice and control, but it also requires greater knowledge of how the system works and the risks involved.

I appreciate your positivity, but let's be honest here. Cryptocurrency is like the wild west!

I am also still very positive about Bitcoin but I would agree, I myself being a victim of hacking and theft, have lost a lot of my hard-earned money to cyber and Crypto criminals. I have lost more from criminals stealing my Bitcoin and other coins than I have ever had with real-life FIAT. Having said that, I am still a big advocate of decentralization and would not change being a part of this movement. I just wish there was less criminality in this space and ardent greed. There is just too much of it right now to attract the average Joe to come in and mass adoption to take place. We need more safeguards for that to happen.
hero member
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January 27, 2020, 02:44:38 AM
#42
Without air and water life no worka.

P2P commerce is also essential.

Past human history is checkered with currency manipulation and conflict..

Enter a new element for humanity; trustless p2p currency, globally decentralized...

Something humanity has been craving since the dawn of human history.

 Cool

I get your point about p2p, decentralization, and all other transactions that involves money, e-commerce  and financial advantages, but comparing It to air and water is completely out of context. First thing comes to my mind after I read your post is the level of greed that taking over your whole body and soul. You are the kind of person who will trade nature over the latest and high technology without any hesitation.

Incase you forgot your history. People from the past 500 years or so live without a piece of money.
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January 27, 2020, 02:26:55 AM
#41
i love the positivity on your part mate thats why you come to this conclusions but i think it is more essential not to compare Bitcoin to the Natures given to us like water and Air(lets add earth as well because human cannot live with water and air only)

Bitcoin is material thing that can be replaced in any chance because there will some other things that will come out in future,but water ,earth and air will never be replaced and that is reality of life.

but yeah Bitcoin will be needed today and specially in the next 10 years.
legendary
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January 27, 2020, 02:20:43 AM
#40
Air, water or whatever given by natural it won't compare with money. We need some basic support for live alive, like water, air, sun and so on. Once upon a time there was no any currency that time also people live somehow. But day by day history is changing. We are upto now on P2P digital currency called Bitcoin. We don't know exactly what is wating on future. Who know perhaps some will create something more latest technology than Bitcoin. But we should accept that Bitcoin has created a revolution on financial ecosystem. However, it cannot be compared to nature.
legendary
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January 27, 2020, 02:19:48 AM
#39
Actually its not a valid comparison. We cannot live without air, water and an energy source like that from our local star, but we could live without money.

History shows we used to trade things without money, but this wasn't too practical until "precious things" (rare) came around, then we could trade more easily. The concept of money due to practicality, originally it was the precious metals themselves, but then goverments happened...

The older cases of inflation were very physical. Romans when troubled by budgetary reasons (the usual) started reducing the amount of gold of each Dinar which prompted their hyperinflation later and an emperor even resigned (for the first time in their history).

But then paper "representing" those metals started being used, and the stage was set for the fractional reserve scam.

Bitcoin undoes this later part, in fact bitcoin doesn't even pretend to represent any arbitrary amount of metal, its price is freely decided by the market by its usefulness alone, so you could say its price is "honest" since you don't have to trust any third party to fulfill a promise of value. So while its not pegged to anything, it also is unique and limited. On top of that its electronic, so even easier to trade with.

Agreed. And to those that deign to say we could one day transfer our consciousness onto a computer chip and create an AI software to mimic our minds, we would still need a source of energy to power that, and for as long as entropy cannot be reversed, we are doomed to extinction in whatever means we live, organic or otherwise.

But money is the one invention of man that enabled commerce -- and perhaps one we no longer can do without, but it is not a concept that is guaranteed eternity. Already I read of places that have forsaken money and returned to barter. Perhaps some day, even private ownership will be obsolete.

Until then, Bitcoin is the better money.
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January 27, 2020, 02:19:33 AM
#38
Bitcoin is of course a genius creation but putting it alongside air and water is too much exaggeration. Bitcoin is just a product of an era of circumstances unique to a certain age. Sooner or later, Bitcoin will pass and another one will take over. That is always the cycle of human civilization.

Indeed, the exaggerating point of air and water along with bitcoin was it became a basic commodities of human in the future. The reality of time was educating us to use digital currency as our mode of payment, and this is now typically being patronized by several businesses who had choosen bitcoin as one of their currency. The uniqueness of cryptocurrency is making our lives more easier, and to compare it with fiat transactions It think everything is a package.
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January 27, 2020, 02:16:11 AM
#37
Without air and water life no worka.

P2P commerce is also essential.

Past human history is checkered with currency manipulation and conflict..

Enter a new element for humanity; trustless p2p currency, globally decentralized...

Something humanity has been craving since the dawn of human history.

 Cool

Cryptocurrency is still subject for manipulation, so even if this is something that we crave for, we need to support this technology, even if this is manipulated, everything here in this life is subject and can be manipulated, it's some manipulation are evident or obvious and some others are not, but this is the technology that we need to support it's something new and something we need in this present generation and the generation to come.
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