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Quote from: smyslov on December 27, 2019, 02:32:33 AM

Deontay rejected to fight Joshua, when he finds out that Joshua is going to get double of what he is getting check all the information here
I believe it should not be half the gap, the gap is very huge, they are both champion and Wilder is also undefeated.

Do you really see how they are avoiding the fight with Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua just won the rematch against Ruiz and if you take the Floyd Mayweather words he cannot be the A side to call the shots against an undefeated champion and with a stipulation where Joshua gets all the perks cannot be accepted and they are doing that to avoid the fight.

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Quote from: DarkDays on December 27, 2019, 02:06:53 PM

Looking at the rankings, there doesn't really appear to be anybody in the top 5 that are likely to face AJ any time soon. Wilder and Fury are tied up to fight in February, Usyk probably doesn't want that smoke for his second fight at heavyweight and Ruiz already got that smoke twice in a row.

Discounting all of these, we have the potential Dillian Whyte rematch (good chance), but I suspect Joshua will end up fighting someone ranked slightly lower, such as Kownacki or Hrgovic. I don't want to see him fight anybody that any of his previous opponents have already beat...

I believe you're right about most rated boxers which ought to be Anthony's next opponent been tied up with another fight and i think there's anything anyone can do about that but the available opponent to fight Anthony will only be someone who's his previous or upcoming opponent have beaten.

Theres no other choice but to deal with it yet its already mandated on the said fight which means we cant really stop on whose gonna he fight.
About those Wilder rejection issue then its just right for him to decline but sooner or later they will surely face up on the ring but for how AJ
would deal either those 2 low ranks than him.

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Quote from: DarkDays on December 27, 2019, 02:06:53 PM

Looking at the rankings, there doesn't really appear to be anybody in the top 5 that are likely to face AJ any time soon. Wilder and Fury are tied up to fight in February, Usyk probably doesn't want that smoke for his second fight at heavyweight and Ruiz already got that smoke twice in a row.

Discounting all of these, we have the potential Dillian Whyte rematch (good chance), but I suspect Joshua will end up fighting someone ranked slightly lower, such as Kownacki or Hrgovic. I don't want to see him fight anybody that any of his previous opponents have already beat...

I believe you're right about most rated boxers which ought to be Anthony's next opponent been tied up with another fight and i think there's anything anyone can do about that but the available opponent to fight Anthony will only be someone who's his previous or upcoming opponent have beaten.

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Quote from: DarkDays on December 28, 2019, 10:08:04 PM

Yea, that's likely, but it is highly unlikely to be his next fight.

As it stands, Joshua's mandatories are Trevor Bryan for the WBA belt, Dillian Whyte for the WBC, Kubrat Pulev for the IBF and Usyk for his other two belts. Looking at this landscape, the easiest person to beat would obviously be Pulev since he already got beat by Dillian Whyte. Logically, it if Joshua is to fight three times next year he will get rid of Pulev first, then move on to Usyk or Whyte (probably Usyk) and then finish up with the winner of Wilder/Fury (so probably Fury).

This is a wildly optimistic timeline though, he'll probably fight someone like Kownacki or Jarell Miller as a tick over rather than a mandatory.

Joshua's mandatories are boring and it will be a bad year for heavyweight boxing fans after the Fury and Wilder fight. Yes I don't think Joshua would fancy Whyte as they have had some close calls in the past but Kownacki and jarell miller would be the safer options for him. Joshua has a lot to prove in his next big fight and I don't think I fancy him for either Wilder or Fury. The wilder and fury rematch is going to be one hell of a night just like last time. It was unbelievable how Fury got up after that massive combination from Wilder last time out but other than the combination Wilder did not do a lot.

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Quote from: AverageGlabella on December 28, 2019, 09:30:23 PM

Quote from: DarkDays on December 27, 2019, 02:06:53 PM

Looking at the rankings, there doesn't really appear to be anybody in the top 5 that are likely to face AJ any time soon. Wilder and Fury are tied up to fight in February, Usyk probably doesn't want that smoke for his second fight at heavyweight and Ruiz already got that smoke twice in a row.

Discounting all of these, we have the potential Dillian Whyte rematch (good chance), but I suspect Joshua will end up fighting someone ranked slightly lower, such as Kownacki or Hrgovic. I don't want to see him fight anybody that any of his previous opponents have already beat...

Winner of the Fury Vs Wilder fight will be AJs opponent in 2021. Joshua will see of his mandatory opponents in 2020 to retain his belts. if the first is anything to go by from Wilder vs Fury we could be in for a great rematch and some very skillful boxing. I think Wilder might get a little luckier this time around and knock fury out. Joshua will probably fancy fighting fury more than Wilder due to Joshua being rocked a few times in his career and Wilder having that insane power. I think we will see Joshua trying to get into the head of fury before the rematch.

Dillian Whyte looks in terrible shape at the moment and if his last fight is anything to judge him on I don't think Joshua will be accepting a fight with him anytime soon.

Yea, that's likely, but it is highly unlikely to be his next fight.

As it stands, Joshua's mandatories are Trevor Bryan for the WBA belt, Dillian Whyte for the WBC, Kubrat Pulev for the IBF and Usyk for his other two belts. Looking at this landscape, the easiest person to beat would obviously be Pulev since he already got beat by Dillian Whyte. Logically, it if Joshua is to fight three times next year he will get rid of Pulev first, then move on to Usyk or Whyte (probably Usyk) and then finish up with the winner of Wilder/Fury (so probably Fury).

This is a wildly optimistic timeline though, he'll probably fight someone like Kownacki or Jarell Miller as a tick over rather than a mandatory.

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Quote from: DarkDays on December 27, 2019, 02:06:53 PM

Looking at the rankings, there doesn't really appear to be anybody in the top 5 that are likely to face AJ any time soon. Wilder and Fury are tied up to fight in February, Usyk probably doesn't want that smoke for his second fight at heavyweight and Ruiz already got that smoke twice in a row.

Discounting all of these, we have the potential Dillian Whyte rematch (good chance), but I suspect Joshua will end up fighting someone ranked slightly lower, such as Kownacki or Hrgovic. I don't want to see him fight anybody that any of his previous opponents have already beat...

Winner of the Fury Vs Wilder fight will be AJs opponent in 2021. Joshua will see of his mandatory opponents in 2020 to retain his belts. if the first is anything to go by from Wilder vs Fury we could be in for a great rematch and some very skillful boxing. I think Wilder might get a little luckier this time around and knock fury out. Joshua will probably fancy fighting fury more than Wilder due to Joshua being rocked a few times in his career and Wilder having that insane power. I think we will see Joshua trying to get into the head of fury before the rematch.

Dillian Whyte looks in terrible shape at the moment and if his last fight is anything to judge him on I don't think Joshua will be accepting a fight with him anytime soon.

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Looking at the rankings, there doesn't really appear to be anybody in the top 5 that are likely to face AJ any time soon. Wilder and Fury are tied up to fight in February, Usyk probably doesn't want that smoke for his second fight at heavyweight and Ruiz already got that smoke twice in a row.

Discounting all of these, we have the potential Dillian Whyte rematch (good chance), but I suspect Joshua will end up fighting someone ranked slightly lower, such as Kownacki or Hrgovic. I don't want to see him fight anybody that any of his previous opponents have already beat...

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Quote from: Jating on December 27, 2019, 09:41:53 AM

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Earlier this month in Saudi Arabia, Anthony Joshua reclaimed the IBF, IBO, WBA, WBO heavyweight titles when he won a twelve round unanimous decision over Andy Ruiz in their rematch.

Now Joshua has two mandatory obligations at the table - and both sanctioning organizations have ordered Joshua to make a defense.

The mandatory challenger under the WBO is Oleksandr Usyk, while the IBF has ordered Joshua to face Kubrat Pulev.

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-id-hate-vacate-belt-i-know-i-get-it-right-back--145418

So it seems that the boxing bodies is forcing Joshua to face his mandatories otherwise he will be strip of the titles or he needed to vacant it. So I guess he doesn't have the control on who he chooses to fight next because of the sanctioning bodies in boxing.

He wont really have have the choice but either to follow those mandatory fights if you dont like headaces later on.The thing here is that there 2 demanded fights on this one and it would really need some arrangements on which one he would tend to choose but if i were too speak then it would be more easier if he consider on selecting Usyk than Pulev first.Neither which one would start out he would really need to defend those belts.

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Quote from: smyslov on December 27, 2019, 02:32:33 AM

Deontay rejected to fight Joshua, when he finds out that Joshua is going to get double of what he is getting check all the information here
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/1109894/Anthony-Joshua-Deontay-Wilder-Fight-Offer-Rejection-Reason-Boxing-News

I believe it should not be half the gap, the gap is very huge, they are both champion and Wilder is also undefeated.

I know but if winning the fight is so such for him he would have go for it, get the undisputed title which will earn him more endorsement, promo recommendation which fetch him ridiculous money without doing anything but him time.
With that been said, i believe the statement made by Anthony after the Ruiz fight have clearly stated that he's not running from Wilders or Furys fight.

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As per this article:

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Earlier this month in Saudi Arabia, Anthony Joshua reclaimed the IBF, IBO, WBA, WBO heavyweight titles when he won a twelve round unanimous decision over Andy Ruiz in their rematch.

Now Joshua has two mandatory obligations at the table - and both sanctioning organizations have ordered Joshua to make a defense.

The mandatory challenger under the WBO is Oleksandr Usyk, while the IBF has ordered Joshua to face Kubrat Pulev.

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-id-hate-vacate-belt-i-know-i-get-it-right-back--145418

So it seems that the boxing bodies is forcing Joshua to face his mandatories otherwise he will be strip of the titles or he needed to vacant it. So I guess he doesn't have the control on who he chooses to fight next because of the sanctioning bodies in boxing.

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Quote from: Kasabus on December 27, 2019, 07:02:52 AM

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Quote from: smyslov on December 27, 2019, 02:32:33 AM

Deontay rejected to fight Joshua, when he finds out that Joshua is going to get double of what he is getting check all the information here
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/1109894/Anthony-Joshua-Deontay-Wilder-Fight-Offer-Rejection-Reason-Boxing-News

I believe it should not be half the gap, the gap is very huge, they are both champion and Wilder is also undefeated.

It's sad we are not going to see this fight very soon because of the money, Deontay Wilder wants more of what he is going to get on initial offer even they are talking about millions still Deontay rejected this why? I only sees it as selling his undefeated record on a high bout. OR he doesn't want his record to get a stain so he's making an alibi and more of excuse? what you think about this guys?

IMO, wilder should even be getting bigger as he is a more exciting fighter than AJ, and he is also undefeated that most of his wins are knockout.

I don't know why AJ would demand that high when I think he will even be the dog if he fight Wilder.

With Joshua with one lost and that was coming from stoppage and Wilder still undefeated, if he beats Fury, and they decide to sit down to negotiate, then it should be in Wilder's favor being an undefeated champion, in my opinion it should be 50- 50, they should do it for the fans and for their career's reputation.

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Quote from: Yatsan on December 27, 2019, 05:40:12 AM

Quote from: smyslov on December 27, 2019, 02:32:33 AM

Deontay rejected to fight Joshua, when he finds out that Joshua is going to get double of what he is getting check all the information here
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/1109894/Anthony-Joshua-Deontay-Wilder-Fight-Offer-Rejection-Reason-Boxing-News

I believe it should not be half the gap, the gap is very huge, they are both champion and Wilder is also undefeated.

It's sad we are not going to see this fight very soon because of the money, Deontay Wilder wants more of what he is going to get on initial offer even they are talking about millions still Deontay rejected this why? I only sees it as selling his undefeated record on a high bout. OR he doesn't want his record to get a stain so he's making an alibi and more of excuse? what you think about this guys?

IMO, wilder should even be getting bigger as he is a more exciting fighter than AJ, and he is also undefeated that most of his wins are knockout.

I don't know why AJ would demand that high when I think he will even be the dog if he fight Wilder.

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Quote from: smyslov on December 27, 2019, 02:32:33 AM

Deontay rejected to fight Joshua, when he finds out that Joshua is going to get double of what he is getting check all the information here
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/1109894/Anthony-Joshua-Deontay-Wilder-Fight-Offer-Rejection-Reason-Boxing-News

I believe it should not be half the gap, the gap is very huge, they are both champion and Wilder is also undefeated.

It's sad we are not going to see this fight very soon because of the money, Deontay Wilder wants more of what he is going to get on initial offer even they are talking about millions still Deontay rejected this why? I only sees it as selling his undefeated record on a high bout. OR he doesn't want his record to get a stain so he's making an alibi and more of excuse? what you think about this guys?

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Quote from: smyslov on December 27, 2019, 02:32:33 AM

Deontay rejected to fight Joshua, when he finds out that Joshua is going to get double of what he is getting check all the information here
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/1109894/Anthony-Joshua-Deontay-Wilder-Fight-Offer-Rejection-Reason-Boxing-News

I believe it should not be half the gap, the gap is very huge, they are both champion and Wilder is also undefeated.

So this is the most awaited fight when the best of the best will be seen fighting. This would be a great and unpredictable time to see how these guys will show off what they've got in the ring side. Every now and then their fans is very exciting to watch the fight of both powerful boxers.

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Deontay rejected to fight Joshua, when he finds out that Joshua is going to get double of what he is getting check all the information here
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/1109894/Anthony-Joshua-Deontay-Wilder-Fight-Offer-Rejection-Reason-Boxing-News

I believe it should not be half the gap, the gap is very huge, they are both champion and Wilder is also undefeated.

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Quote from: notblox1 on December 10, 2019, 12:35:07 PM

Next fight for Anthony Joshua should be winner of Tyson Fury - Deontey Wilder fight,
but I think he will again skip and avoid any of those two fighters.

Nah. He already mentioned 4 (Tyson, Wilder, Usyk and Pulev) of them as his next opponent.

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Quote from: smyslov on December 09, 2019, 10:46:43 PM

He kept fighting unknown fighters that is why people can't never stopped or questioning who is a the real heavyweight champion, but now that he is expose because of his first fight against Ruiz, he really should face Wilder or Fury, for me a fight with any of these two great fighters will guaranteed him ticket as the best pound for pound great in this generation.

That would happen probably next year, if we keep calling that then for sure they will give us a chance.
Remember that they are in the business of money and if people want that fight they can give that fight.

AJ is soft, I don't know what would happen to him if he will fight Wilder TBH.

If you're saying this because Anthony have pretty face and gentle look then you're totally wrong because he a man that keep all still on the ring only while he act as a gentle man outside the ring.

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Quote from: notblox1 on December 10, 2019, 12:35:07 PM

Next fight for Anthony Joshua should be winner of Tyson Fury - Deontey Wilder fight,
but I think he will again skip and avoid any of those two fighters.

In the end, he will run out of alibi and excuses, I have watched one interview that Wilder badly wanted a fight with a Joshua, but they did not mention that after he won against Ruiz, because of this they are depriving boxing fans a great fight in the heavyweight that only both of them can provide.

I believe you're saying this because you don't know the in depth of the whole story because Anthony was ready for Wilder fight before Wilder reject the offer giving to him.

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I support what you said and i don't see Anthony's fight either Wilder or Fury if their rematch also end up as draw but i don't think their upcoming fight will be draw because Fury seems not to like the fact there's no winner between the two of them which is the reason he make a video which he posted on his Instagram yesterday.

The chances of seeing another draw against Fury and Wilder is minimal as you really cannot trust the judges and if the fight goes the distance i am hoping that the judges will give the decision to Wilder but as always Wilder does need one clean punch to knock out anyone in any weight division and he can even move down because he is not a heavily built heavyweight boxer.
Joshua is having a sign of relief and i bet he will not go for another tough fight as he might need a long rest and have an easy fight just to defend the belt.

The second fight against Ruiz was incredibly easy for Joshua he only threw his jab and as soon as he seemed to be out of position or he left himself open he withdrew and avoided the fight, and with a Ruiz that was so heavy it became impossible for him to take advantage of any of those moments in which Joshua made a mistake.

Also in the fight of Wilder vs Fury if the fight goes to the distance then my bet will be on Fury to win the match, Wilder will have to KO him if he wants that win.

I wouldn't say it was easy fight for AJ, well it looks very easy, however, it took careful planning from his team and disciplined on AJ not to engaged or at least not play Ruiz games.

We need to see what will be the outcome of the Fury vs Wilder, AJ will be ready whoever his team decided to face next, either the mandatory or for the undisputed title.

It do have a high chance of Usyk would be the next possible opponent: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/10539326/anthony-joshua-wbo-oleksandr-usyk/
Its a mandatory one and they do have only a month to settle things up.So we cant still see Fury or Wilder on next. Would Usyk able to take those belt from Joshua?
This guy had high chances for sure.

Honestly, if this was just a speculation i won't have agree with what you said because Pulev seems to be the available opponent to be Anthony next fight. But if you read the whole article very well you'll understand that Usyk will actually face the winner between Anthony and Pulev.
@Baofeng, you're right and even Wilder thought the fight between Anthony and Ruiz was an easy fight but he don't understand that Anyhony fought by taking the right precaution to avoid his previous mistake.

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I support what you said and i don't see Anthony's fight either Wilder or Fury if their rematch also end up as draw but i don't think their upcoming fight will be draw because Fury seems not to like the fact there's no winner between the two of them which is the reason he make a video which he posted on his Instagram yesterday.

The chances of seeing another draw against Fury and Wilder is minimal as you really cannot trust the judges and if the fight goes the distance i am hoping that the judges will give the decision to Wilder but as always Wilder does need one clean punch to knock out anyone in any weight division and he can even move down because he is not a heavily built heavyweight boxer.
Joshua is having a sign of relief and i bet he will not go for another tough fight as he might need a long rest and have an easy fight just to defend the belt.

The second fight against Ruiz was incredibly easy for Joshua he only threw his jab and as soon as he seemed to be out of position or he left himself open he withdrew and avoided the fight, and with a Ruiz that was so heavy it became impossible for him to take advantage of any of those moments in which Joshua made a mistake.

Also in the fight of Wilder vs Fury if the fight goes to the distance then my bet will be on Fury to win the match, Wilder will have to KO him if he wants that win.

I wouldn't say it was easy fight for AJ, well it looks very easy, however, it took careful planning from his team and disciplined on AJ not to engaged or at least not play Ruiz games.

We need to see what will be the outcome of the Fury vs Wilder, AJ will be ready whoever his team decided to face next, either the mandatory or for the undisputed title.

It do have a high chance of Usyk would be the next possible opponent: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/10539326/anthony-joshua-wbo-oleksandr-usyk/
Its a mandatory one and they do have only a month to settle things up.So we cant still see Fury or Wilder on next. Would Usyk able to take those belt from Joshua?
This guy had high chances for sure.

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I support what you said and i don't see Anthony's fight either Wilder or Fury if their rematch also end up as draw but i don't think their upcoming fight will be draw because Fury seems not to like the fact there's no winner between the two of them which is the reason he make a video which he posted on his Instagram yesterday.

The chances of seeing another draw against Fury and Wilder is minimal as you really cannot trust the judges and if the fight goes the distance i am hoping that the judges will give the decision to Wilder but as always Wilder does need one clean punch to knock out anyone in any weight division and he can even move down because he is not a heavily built heavyweight boxer.
Joshua is having a sign of relief and i bet he will not go for another tough fight as he might need a long rest and have an easy fight just to defend the belt.

The second fight against Ruiz was incredibly easy for Joshua he only threw his jab and as soon as he seemed to be out of position or he left himself open he withdrew and avoided the fight, and with a Ruiz that was so heavy it became impossible for him to take advantage of any of those moments in which Joshua made a mistake.

Also in the fight of Wilder vs Fury if the fight goes to the distance then my bet will be on Fury to win the match, Wilder will have to KO him if he wants that win.

I wouldn't say it was easy fight for AJ, well it looks very easy, however, it took careful planning from his team and disciplined on AJ not to engaged or at least not play Ruiz games.

We need to see what will be the outcome of the Fury vs Wilder, AJ will be ready whoever his team decided to face next, either the mandatory or for the undisputed title.

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Quote from: ene1980 on December 09, 2019, 06:26:30 PM

Quote from: posi on December 09, 2019, 06:04:13 PM

I support what you said and i don't see Anthony's fight either Wilder or Fury if their rematch also end up as draw but i don't think their upcoming fight will be draw because Fury seems not to like the fact there's no winner between the two of them which is the reason he make a video which he posted on his Instagram yesterday.

The chances of seeing another draw against Fury and Wilder is minimal as you really cannot trust the judges and if the fight goes the distance i am hoping that the judges will give the decision to Wilder but as always Wilder does need one clean punch to knock out anyone in any weight division and he can even move down because he is not a heavily built heavyweight boxer.
Joshua is having a sign of relief and i bet he will not go for another tough fight as he might need a long rest and have an easy fight just to defend the belt.

The second fight against Ruiz was incredibly easy for Joshua he only threw his jab and as soon as he seemed to be out of position or he left himself open he withdrew and avoided the fight, and with a Ruiz that was so heavy it became impossible for him to take advantage of any of those moments in which Joshua made a mistake.

Also in the fight of Wilder vs Fury if the fight goes to the distance then my bet will be on Fury to win the match, Wilder will have to KO him if he wants that win.

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