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Topic: Alert: chain fork caused by pre-0.8 clients dealing badly with large blocks - page 17. (Read 155551 times)

legendary
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Bitcoin is new, makes sense to hodl.
ok, how long it's expected to take until it's safe to transfer coin
legendary
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Seems odd that 0.7 hasn't gotten a new block for 45 minutes.
Each chain has less hashing power than before the split but is still operating on the old difficulty.
donator
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Gerald Davis
Is it concerning at all that the devs and the large mining pools just colluded to do a 51% attack ?

No.  Then again that didn't happen and 51% attack obviously doesn't mean what you think it means.
zvs
legendary
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https://web.archive.org/web/*/nogleg.com
Is it concerning at all that the devs and the large mining pools just colluded to do a 51% attack ?




good point, hah


re: no blocks on blockchain.info

http://blockchain.info/block-index/357994/000000000000005e291bf3293572918bd24bfda9c17ee863b26e8386b1fe1d22
hero member
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up to date showing 225446 last block was generated 9 sec. ago.I know I received these coins before 225446 .Have no clue why they won't confirm.......I take it a lot of people are having this same problem with stuck coins.
full member
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Is it concerning at all that the devs and the large mining pools just colluded to do a 51% attack ?


zvs
legendary
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https://web.archive.org/web/*/nogleg.com
re: miners haven't incentive to do anything.  Do they really?  Only if you're mining solo... otherwise all that matters is what the pool you're mining on is using.
to reply to myself

i think there would have been a lot less ppl running around if it had been made clear that all that really matters is what client the pool you're operating on is using

as a person that mines @ a pool, i'm not downgrading from 0.8

nor am i downgrading my relay node
sr. member
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I prefer evolution to revolution.
Seems odd that 0.7 hasn't gotten a new block for 45 minutes.  Or maybe blockchain.info isn't reporting new ones?
full member
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https://bitminter.com IS now on 0.7 according to..


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1613942



I like there simple java mining client so im gonna run that, every little helps.
legendary
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Beyond Imagination
Why that 0.8 thread is still on the top?
legendary
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Bitcoin
is it almost over fully fixed?

Highly doubt it! If anything going to take a couple of hours to fix itself.
legendary
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Bitcoin
zvs
legendary
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https://web.archive.org/web/*/nogleg.com
re: miners haven't incentive to do anything.  Do they really?  Only if you're mining solo... otherwise all that matters is what the pool you're mining on is using.
legendary
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Is there any way us mere mortals without minig rigs can help? if we all come online with version 0.7 will it help or just create excessive traffic?
If you're not mining there is nothing you can do to help, and there's no reason to downgrade to 0.7 if you already upgraded earlier.


I meant those of us with a half decent Graphics card can start mining on 0.7 to process the right chain, But in all probability with my set-up re-syncing the blockchain would take more traffic and by the time my client caught up I think the blockchain race would be over.
Just mine for a pool like ozcoin.net getwork that is mining the new chain. us.ozco.in:8332
legendary
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But what I actually meant is that it is a bit surprising that the BerkeleyDB backed versions where not tested to a maximum block size (which, as I understand it, is expressed as a #DEFINE, and which, again in my understanding, was not changed between 0.7 and 0.8.)
Maybe they were tested, but the bug only appears in certain versions of BDB. Since a lot of people compile their own node software who knows how many versions of BDB operating nodes are linked against?

We probably won't know for sure until they have time to do a full postmortem.

Good point.  It'll be interesting to see the postmortem.  But it does not sound like a bug per-se.  Simply a property of BerkeleyDB's implementation (and a tunable parameter I think I read somewhere.)

full member
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Is there any way us mere mortals without minig rigs can help? if we all come online with version 0.7 will it help or just create excessive traffic?
If you're not mining there is nothing you can do to help, and there's no reason to downgrade to 0.7 if you already upgraded earlier.


I meant those of us with a half decent Graphics card can start mining on 0.7 to process the right chain, But in all probability with my set-up re-syncing the blockchain would take more traffic and by the time my client caught up I think the blockchain race would be over.
vip
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So just to be clear, the only lost coins were those mined using 0.8 since the fork?
Only if you used a pool with instant withdraw. Some possible double spends too.
legendary
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So just to be clear, the only lost coins were those mined using 0.8 since the fork?
Generated coins are not mature for 120 blocks, so they were never spendable by the miner anyway. Some pools might have some sorting out to do in their accounting systems though.
full member
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So just to be clear, the only lost coins were those mined using 0.8 since the fork?
full member
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Well Fiat never was this exciting!  Grin
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