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Topic: All about "stuck" transactions and what you can do to fix them - page 5. (Read 143772 times)

copper member
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No I dont escrow anymore.
It's like a city full of cars. The more the cars within that city, the traffic will be heavier and people will arrive from one point to another point longer. This is what's happening to bitcoin right now. We all need to be very patient, because we'll arrive from origin to destination longer than usual. 😁
Or we could do what most cities that consistently have congestion problems do...increase traffic capacity in as simple and cost effective way possible.

You might want to reconsider this analogy unless you are suggesting reducing the blocksize.

-> https://www.wired.com/2014/06/wuwt-traffic-induced-demand/
There are a couple of things that are noteworthy about that article.

1 - From the looks of it, the traffic patterns that the article examined were those that major roadways were operating at a maximum capacity, the capacity was increased, but not enough to satisfy existing demand, so the roadways continued to operate at a maximum capacity after additional travel lanes (ect.) were added.

The only similarity to bitcoin I see here is: as long as its dirt cheap it will get used until it no longer is. In Bitcoin terms this would mean bigger blocks would not (permanently) reduce fees to previously unsaturated levels nor would it solve the "my TX is not getting through" issue, because bitcoin would just be used more until it reached this level again. Whether or not this research into roads can be transfered to bitcoin I dont know.

2 - The article mentioned that reducing travel capacity did not result in horribly reduced travel conditions because citizens were forced to utilize alternate travel arrangements. This is not unlike the fact that maintaining the artificial 1 MB block size limit is essentially picking winners and losers in that LN and other similar arrangements are the winners.

or alt coins (subway).

3 - The article praised the former USSR (soviet union) in the fact that their communist structure benefited consumers. Over the medium and long term, communism (and the very similar socialism) kills those who are subjected to these kinds of governments/economies

copper member
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It's like a city full of cars. The more the cars within that city, the traffic will be heavier and people will arrive from one point to another point longer. This is what's happening to bitcoin right now. We all need to be very patient, because we'll arrive from origin to destination longer than usual. 😁
Or we could do what most cities that consistently have congestion problems do...increase traffic capacity in as simple and cost effective way possible.

You might want to reconsider this analogy unless you are suggesting reducing the blocksize.

-> https://www.wired.com/2014/06/wuwt-traffic-induced-demand/
There are a couple of things that are noteworthy about that article.

1 - From the looks of it, the traffic patterns that the article examined were those that major roadways were operating at a maximum capacity, the capacity was increased, but not enough to satisfy existing demand, so the roadways continued to operate at a maximum capacity after additional travel lanes (ect.) were added.

2 - The article mentioned that reducing travel capacity did not result in horribly reduced travel conditions because citizens were forced to utilize alternate travel arrangements. This is not unlike the fact that maintaining the artificial 1 MB block size limit is essentially picking winners and losers in that LN and other similar arrangements are the winners.

3 - The article praised the former USSR (soviet union) in the fact that their communist structure benefited consumers. Over the medium and long term, communism (and the very similar socialism) kills those who are subjected to these kinds of governments/economies
copper member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1528
No I dont escrow anymore.
It's like a city full of cars. The more the cars within that city, the traffic will be heavier and people will arrive from one point to another point longer. This is what's happening to bitcoin right now. We all need to be very patient, because we'll arrive from origin to destination longer than usual. 😁
Or we could do what most cities that consistently have congestion problems do...increase traffic capacity in as simple and cost effective way possible.

You might want to reconsider this analogy unless you are suggesting reducing the blocksize.

-> https://www.wired.com/2014/06/wuwt-traffic-induced-demand/
newbie
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It's like a city full of cars. The more the cars within that city, the traffic will be heavier and people will arrive from one point to another point longer. This is what's happening to bitcoin right now. We all need to be very patient, because we'll arrive from origin to destination longer than usual. 😁
Or we could do what most cities that consistently have congestion problems do...increase traffic capacity in as simple and cost effective way possible.

Yeah. Only if Bitcoin City will build wider the roads or build new roads to ease traffic congestion. I think it's hard for them to implement such changes because there are too many cars and people in it already. Haha! If they won't increase capacity, people will be forced to move to the great city of Ethereum where they already built skyways and subways in strategic locations or the Lightning City where there are more roads with less cars. Hahaha! 😁
copper member
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It's like a city full of cars. The more the cars within that city, the traffic will be heavier and people will arrive from one point to another point longer. This is what's happening to bitcoin right now. We all need to be very patient, because we'll arrive from origin to destination longer than usual. 😁
Or we could do what most cities that consistently have congestion problems do...increase traffic capacity in as simple and cost effective way possible.
newbie
Activity: 25
Merit: 0
My btc trans got cleared after 4 days. It's not found for the first 3 days, and now, suddenly, it's confirmed. I think we just need to be very patient as bitcoin is very slow right now and it WILL get slower a few weeks or months from now.

It's like a city full of cars. The more the cars within that city, the traffic will be heavier and people will arrive from one point to another point longer. This is what's happening to bitcoin right now. We all need to be very patient, because we'll arrive from origin to destination longer than usual. 😁
newbie
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I have an Electrum wallet it has been in unconfirmed now for 2 days.
It's so slow i wonder what goes on there at Electrum.
Why do they always stick on Electrum ,it's worse than a frozen bank.
newbie
Activity: 25
Merit: 0
I got stuck transaction for 12 hours, and it's been unconfirmed and is in memory pool. I tried the RBF option using core 0.14 and windows 10.
I already done the 'abandon transaction' step and resend with higher fee, now waiting for it to be completed.

However I realise the abandoned transaction is not come back to my balance, now I get deduct twice the amount I intended to send. is it a known issue ?

Like the previous transaction is 1 BTC, now I resend another 1 BTC, now my balance is deducted by 2 BTC ....
Do I need to wait ?  Huh Huh

Mine got stuck for 2 days now. Still waiting. I should have selected the option with higher fee T_T
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
I got stuck transaction for 12 hours, and it's been unconfirmed and is in memory pool. I tried the RBF option using core 0.14 and windows 10.
I already done the 'abandon transaction' step and resend with higher fee, now waiting for it to be completed.

However I realise the abandoned transaction is not come back to my balance, now I get deduct twice the amount I intended to send. is it a known issue ?

Like the previous transaction is 1 BTC, now I resend another 1 BTC, now my balance is deducted by 2 BTC ....
Do I need to wait ?  Huh Huh
When you sent again, it is possible that you did not spend the same inputs spent in the abandoned transaction. If the abandoned transaction has confirmed, then you would have made the payment twice.
what do you mean by "same input" ? like I sent 1 BTC before, now I send 1 BTC is same ? or does it need to be correct to the fee spend ? but the fee need to be higher to be processed faster ?
staff
Activity: 3458
Merit: 6793
Just writing some code
I got stuck transaction for 12 hours, and it's been unconfirmed and is in memory pool. I tried the RBF option using core 0.14 and windows 10.
I already done the 'abandon transaction' step and resend with higher fee, now waiting for it to be completed.

However I realise the abandoned transaction is not come back to my balance, now I get deduct twice the amount I intended to send. is it a known issue ?

Like the previous transaction is 1 BTC, now I resend another 1 BTC, now my balance is deducted by 2 BTC ....
Do I need to wait ?  Huh Huh
When you sent again, it is possible that you did not spend the same inputs spent in the abandoned transaction. If the abandoned transaction has confirmed, then you would have made the payment twice.
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
I got stuck transaction for 12 hours, and it's been unconfirmed and is in memory pool. I tried the RBF option using core 0.14 and windows 10.
I already done the 'abandon transaction' step and resend with higher fee, now waiting for it to be completed.

However I realise the abandoned transaction is not come back to my balance, now I get deduct twice the amount I intended to send. is it a known issue ?

Like the previous transaction is 1 BTC, now I resend another 1 BTC, now my balance is deducted by 2 BTC ....
Do I need to wait ?  Huh Huh
legendary
Activity: 3010
Merit: 3724
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The problem is, most noobs use web wallets because they are too lazy to download Core, or any of the wallets that will give you proper options like -zapwallettxes, RPF or whatever.
Not too lazy, but take up too much memory。If the memory footprint is small, I will choose CORE wallet.It's really big.Is this the cause of the obstruction?

Newbies by definition are new and most introductory guides you can find out there are outdated or have not kept abreast with this issue of extended confirmation times - an issue even most wallets do not alert users about when signing up. Rather than laziness, it's simply a matter of being inadequate information.

And, as you say, even with the information available, the added resources needed for Core and the like are cons that would put off even users like me.

That been said, I've now switched even to storing the coins I move frequently in the in-house wallets of some sites, which charge a flat fee regardless of output. I've found these to confirm very quickly, as my txs are performed as part of a large batch with generous fees.

As usual, very helpful post from OP. I hope more free services like viabtc come about. I've used it myself after >3 days unconfirmed and it pushes through in hours.
hero member
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The problem is, most noobs use web wallets because they are too lazy to download Core, or any of the wallets that will give you proper options like -zapwallettxes, RPF or whatever.
Not too lazy, but take up too much memory。If the memory footprint is small, I will choose CORE wallet.It's really big.Is this the cause of the obstruction?
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
The problem is, most noobs use web wallets because they are too lazy to download Core, or any of the wallets that will give you proper options like -zapwallettxes, RPF or whatever. The "asking for miners" resort is pretty lame and not very user friendly... it's a problem. Web wallets should be forced to give more options in case this happens.
Still, if people are genuinely aiming for Bitcoin to be more convenient for less techy new users like me, wallets should be able to handle these issues themselves.  Of course you should be able to change these options and make your own choices but I don't think there's anything wrong with experimenting by using a more simplified wallet.
legendary
Activity: 868
Merit: 1006
The problem is, most noobs use web wallets because they are too lazy to download Core, or any of the wallets that will give you proper options like -zapwallettxes, RPF or whatever. The "asking for miners" resort is pretty lame and not very user friendly... it's a problem. Web wallets should be forced to give more options in case this happens.
legendary
Activity: 2016
Merit: 1107
great read!
I think you could add https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/    
to your  "What can I do to make my stuck transaction confirm? "  paragraph
the tool is not extremely helpful as it only allows you to accelerate up to 100 transactions per hour and all the slots are usually filled up
after 5-10 minutes from  the hour start,but it does help to confirm your tx when everything else fails
as it includes your transaction into a block directly
staff
Activity: 3458
Merit: 6793
Just writing some code
@OP: I couldn't find much information about CPFP method. Is it the same as double spending? I need to get my transaction confirmed and hence am asking.
CPFP is not the same as double spending or RBF. It requires that you spend from an unconfirmed transaction, something that most wallets don't allow, so I don't have instructions for how to do it. If you know how to work with raw transactions, then CPFP can be done.
legendary
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legendary
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i just found this service but still not sure if this works https://pushtx.btc.com/

but since btc.com seems to be trusted, this might be helpful to some people, tho they charge kinda high fee

They are charging $ 6.88 / KB which is not worth. I entered my transaction Id and got an option to pay almost double the amount as the transaction size was 1518 Bytes. Viabtc works for free and transactions get confirmed for sure.


@OP: I couldn't find much information about CPFP method. Is it the same as double spending? I need to get my transaction confirmed and hence am asking.
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i just found this service but still not sure if this works https://pushtx.btc.com/

but since btc.com seems to be trusted, this might be helpful to some people, tho they charge kinda high fee
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