All Canadians to be vaccined. Trudeau orders 40 million vaccines for 38 million

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on January 03, 2021, 01:03:57 PM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on January 03, 2021, 07:11:05 AM

According to the Bloomberg Covid-19 Vaccine Tracker, the number of vaccine shots administered have passed the 12 million mark.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

Out of this number, 4.28 million are in the United States and just 103,000 doses have been given in Canada. Even taking in to account for the lower population in Canada, they have administered far fewer vaccines when compared to their Southern neighbor. For comparison, the state of New York has administered 237,000 vaccine shots till now.

Trudeau as usual, is all talk and no action. Anyway, the Canucks got what they deserve.

They also have had 600k total cases/15k deaths vs Americas 21 million/360k deaths.

Yeah not really the fully story to just be comparing raw numbers at face value. A lot of people do it, though it doesn’t make it the right way to go about comparing these things.

Lot of layers which Frank1 has went through the potential for. Even without thinking that much it’d be pretty easy to understand that there is probably age differences, health differences, demographic differences, and so on and so forth.

Kinda like me saying — well in England they only have 150k cases — well yes, but they have a lot less people then America (just making up numbers here)

Little rant of mine about raw numbers. I think Trudeau is making the right call on the vaccine though, it’s going to save so many peoples lives.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on January 04, 2021, 12:56:56 AM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on January 03, 2021, 01:03:57 PM

They also have had 600k total cases/15k deaths vs Americas 21 million/360k deaths.

If these figures are accurate, the Canadian government can claim that they have managed to cut down the number of infections. Since the Canadian population is around 1/9th of that of the United States, I would have expected around 2.5 million infections. But looking closely, there is something that is not right. The US has reported 360,078 deaths from 21,113,528 infections, with a fatality rate of 1.7%. On the other hand, Canada has reported 15,865 deaths from 601,663 infections, with a fatality rate of 2.64%.

Why the fatality rate is so high in Canada? It is either because their medical facilities are incompetent, or because they are not testing enough and reporting all the infections.

many aspects come into death rate differences.
age demographic of population.
  EG some african countries with life expectancy is 45 shows that people dont get to the higher risk age of 50+
  meaning less people in the at high risk age to then get affected more by covid. so less deaths due to covid
  US life expectancy is 81. canada is 84 so canada has more elder people(more populous at risk)
  us has 16.95% over 65. canada has 18.98% over 65

social demographic
  EG the french sector like to kiss cheeks and hugs. they are more social than americans.
  people that live with their elderly relatives (ethnic groups suffer from this the most)
  so more transfer in higher loads compared to people that stand at a distance/dont live with elderly

personal space respect and mask usage
  EG some countries disrespect personal space and avoid masks, some respect it. so the case numbers per populous change

hospital care resources
  EG countries low on resources resort to asking families to fill in 'do not resuscitate' orders on the very frail
  where by if people in care homes get sick and have a DNR. they wont be taken to hospital to be intubated
  (people that would not likely recover anyways)

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on January 03, 2021, 01:03:57 PM

They also have had 600k total cases/15k deaths vs Americas 21 million/360k deaths.

If these figures are accurate, the Canadian government can claim that they have managed to cut down the number of infections. Since the Canadian population is around 1/9th of that of the United States, I would have expected around 2.5 million infections. But looking closely, there is something that is not right. The US has reported 360,078 deaths from 21,113,528 infections, with a fatality rate of 1.7%. On the other hand, Canada has reported 15,865 deaths from 601,663 infections, with a fatality rate of 2.64%.

Why the fatality rate is so high in Canada? It is either because their medical facilities are incompetent, or because they are not testing enough and reporting all the infections.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on January 03, 2021, 07:11:05 AM

According to the Bloomberg Covid-19 Vaccine Tracker, the number of vaccine shots administered have passed the 12 million mark.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

Out of this number, 4.28 million are in the United States and just 103,000 doses have been given in Canada. Even taking in to account for the lower population in Canada, they have administered far fewer vaccines when compared to their Southern neighbor. For comparison, the state of New York has administered 237,000 vaccine shots till now.

Trudeau as usual, is all talk and no action. Anyway, the Canucks got what they deserve.

They also have had 600k total cases/15k deaths vs Americas 21 million/360k deaths.

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seems tvbcof is taking too many drugs. his thoughts and rambles have no merit of truth. all he does is ramble about stuff he was told on conspiracy sites where he cant even have the mindset to even check for facts.

it might be much simpler if tvbcof just asked his conspiracy cult to just write their own opinions on this site. and give tvbcof a break. because all tvbcof does is just repeat their scripts like a puppet middleman.

maybe if tvbcof bothered to spend 2 minutes fact checking the nonsense he reads before reiterating it here. he might have a more productive amount of comments. but so far its just nonsense.

anyway.
with covid killing a minimum of 3 out of 1000 within 4 weeks of getting infected.(average numbers are 2-6 out of 100 in places that dont social distance)
if the vaccine was so bad we should see out of the 600,000 that had the vaccine last month. atleast 1800 death due to vaccines by next week.or even 36000 extremes.

so if tvbcof sees 1800-36k deaths by next week. then he has a point that vaccines are as bad/worse than the virus.. however i guarantee you that there wont be more deaths than covids minimum death rate. so tvbcof should prepare himself to be debunked

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on January 03, 2021, 07:11:05 AM

According to the Bloomberg Covid-19 Vaccine Tracker, the number of vaccine shots administered have passed the 12 million mark.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

Out of this number, 4.28 million are in the United States and just 103,000 doses have been given in Canada. Even taking in to account for the lower population in Canada, they have administered far fewer vaccines when compared to their Southern neighbor. For comparison, the state of New York has administered 237,000 vaccine shots till now.

Trudeau as usual, is all talk and no action. Anyway, the Canucks got what they deserve.

If that is even true at all and Turdeau had anything to do with it, it's the only positive thing I've heard about the man. Ever!

If I had to choose between a leader who would use his 'rich Western country' world-wide marketing power to promote the extermination of useless eaters in other countries and not get around to doing his own to one who would "kill-em-all and let God sort 'em out.", I'd opt for the former.

Turdeau strikes me as about the most one-world-ee person around though so it would be a surprise to me to see him display any sort of nationalism or care for the wellbeing of Canadians. I'd be inclined to chalk up the 'failure' to the designer genetic insertion technology to being a hard sell in the generally fairly well educated Canadian population. Or Turdie is waiting for just the right concoction to do the maximum amount of 'genetic hygiene' in his assigned global management zone.

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According to the Bloomberg Covid-19 Vaccine Tracker, the number of vaccine shots administered have passed the 12 million mark.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

Out of this number, 4.28 million are in the United States and just 103,000 doses have been given in Canada. Even taking in to account for the lower population in Canada, they have administered far fewer vaccines when compared to their Southern neighbor. For comparison, the state of New York has administered 237,000 vaccine shots till now.

Trudeau as usual, is all talk and no action. Anyway, the Canucks got what they deserve.

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40m vaccines for 38m people. Sounds fishy Wink

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Quote from: Pizzalover420 on December 25, 2020, 09:55:58 AM

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1342203233280913411
"The first doses of Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine have arrived in Canada. These are part of the 168,000 doses we’ll be getting before the end of the month, and part of the 40 million doses we’re guaranteed from Moderna overall."

There is 38 million cdns and they are getting 40 million vaxs.

Now they can`t force you to get the vaccine, but they will force the grocery stores to not let you in unless you got your covid pass.

I rather have covid than get the vax.

Unless I missed something, Moderna requires 2 doses. So the 40 million doses will only vaccinate 20 million people.

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Quote from: franky1 on January 03, 2021, 12:36:42 AM

the staff want it. but they are witnessing that they are offered appointments before the vulnerable people they care for are offered. so their mindset is that the vaccine should go to those that need it most first. and they will (hope) to have an oppertunity to rejoin the list later.
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Do you really think that ANYONE is stupid enough to believe that narrative? Really?

Likely they [the nursing home CNA staff] more than anyone see the effects of the flu vaccine when the grim reaper's come through the facilities with their syringes. Likely they don't want to end up looking like the stroke victims they take care of due to GMO injection initiated Bell's palsy.

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Quote from: tvbcof on January 03, 2021, 12:10:49 AM

https://twitter.com/YoureAllDunces/status/1345407916409561090

The Wall Street Journal
@WSJ
More nursing homes are getting the Covid-19 vaccine, but a recent survey found nearly 72% of certified nursing assistants don’t want to be vaccinated. One Georgia company is offering staffers who take the shot a free breakfast at Waffle House. https://on.wsj.com/3pxsdyu

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“We know you’re starving, and we just gave you basically nothing, so here’s a junk food breakfast (only one per starving family) as long as you take our intentionally rushed experimental injection that even our own medical personnel are refusing.” This is what they think of us.

The CNAs are the experts you've been talking about. Really?

CHeck out what's required to become a CNA.

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Quote from: tvbcof on January 03, 2021, 12:10:49 AM

https://twitter.com/YoureAllDunces/status/1345407916409561090

The Wall Street Journal
@WSJ
More nursing homes are getting the Covid-19 vaccine, but a recent survey found nearly 72% of certified nursing assistants don’t want to be vaccinated. One Georgia company is offering staffers who take the shot a free breakfast at Waffle House. https://on.wsj.com/3pxsdyu

Ignatius J. Reilly
@YoureAllDunces
“We know you’re starving, and we just gave you basically nothing, so here’s a junk food breakfast (only one per starving family) as long as you take our intentionally rushed experimental injection that even our own medical personnel are refusing.” This is what they think of us.

the staff want it. but they are witnessing that they are offered appointments before the vulnerable people they care for are offered. so their mindset is that the vaccine should go to those that need it most first. and they will (hope) to have an oppertunity to rejoin the list later.

whats being said is that those that dont take it may not be offered a vaccine later so they should take it now

the reasoning of putting care home staff higher then care home residents is because government know if staff get sick. then no one will be left to care fr residents. so best to vaccinate the staff and then the residents.
but the staff prefer it the other way. residents first then staff, so this is their little protest hoping it gets officials to change is priority list

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https://twitter.com/YoureAllDunces/status/1345407916409561090

The Wall Street Journal
@WSJ
More nursing homes are getting the Covid-19 vaccine, but a recent survey found nearly 72% of certified nursing assistants don’t want to be vaccinated. One Georgia company is offering staffers who take the shot a free breakfast at Waffle House. https://on.wsj.com/3pxsdyu

Ignatius J. Reilly
@YoureAllDunces
“We know you’re starving, and we just gave you basically nothing, so here’s a junk food breakfast (only one per starving family) as long as you take our intentionally rushed experimental injection that even our own medical personnel are refusing.” This is what they think of us.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on January 02, 2021, 11:41:59 PM

Quote from: tvbcof on January 02, 2021, 02:25:03 PM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on January 02, 2021, 12:25:18 PM

The stuff about anti vaxxers starving to death and the Canadian Government forcing Grocery Stores to not let anyone in the door without the vaccine...it's not real.

We are really only a couple of relatively small steps away from it

Impressive level of ambiguity.

im still laughing at tvbcofs tinfoil hat moment there..
a 'vaccine pass' wont be used to allow entry into a grocery store. because 99.5% would be banned as not even 0.5% had a vaccine so far, in tvbcos brainless scenario

if anything it a 'vaccine pass' would just be a pass to not wear a mask. much like some already have a autism/copd pass to not wear a mask.

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Quote from: tvbcof on January 02, 2021, 02:25:03 PM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on January 02, 2021, 12:25:18 PM

The stuff about anti vaxxers starving to death and the Canadian Government forcing Grocery Stores to not let anyone in the door without the vaccine...it's not real.

We are really only a couple of relatively small steps away from it

Impressive level of ambiguity.

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Quote from: Gyfts on January 02, 2021, 06:20:09 PM

UK is adjusting their strategy on the 2nd doses. The original protocol was something like a few weeks from the first dose to the second -- UK is now extending that period and allowing different vaccines to be mixed in. Meaning, you take the Pfizer vaccine as the first dose, then take the Moderna dose. Health experts are saying this makes no fucking sense, because it doesn't. Vaccines are based on the spike proteins, but is it a good idea to then begin mixing vaccines that have not passed basic scrutiny through clinical trials together?

https://nypost.com/2021/01/01/uk-allows-mixing-covid-19-vaccines-as-experts-warn-of-risks/

no.
actually try to check the source

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If the course is interrupted or delayed, it should be resumed using the same vaccine but the first dose should not be repeated. There is no evidence on the interchangeability of the COVID-19 vaccines although studies are underway. Therefore, every effort should be made to determine which vaccine the individual received and to complete with the same vaccine. For individuals who started the schedule and who attend for vaccination at a site where the same vaccine is not available, or if the first product received is unknown, it is reasonable to offer one dose of the locally available product to complete the schedule

its saying try every effort to stick to the same vaccine. and then shows an example of an extreme exception to that advice. its not saying new protocol is to mix it up

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Quote from: Gyfts on January 02, 2021, 06:20:09 PM

UK is adjusting their strategy on the 2nd doses. The original protocol was something like a few weeks from the first dose to the second -- UK is now extending that period and allowing different vaccines to be mixed in. Meaning, you take the Pfizer vaccine as the first dose, then take the Moderna dose. Health experts are saying this makes no fucking sense, because it doesn't. Vaccines are based on the spike proteins, but is it a good idea to then begin mixing vaccines that have not passed basic scrutiny through clinical trials together?

https://nypost.com/2021/01/01/uk-allows-mixing-covid-19-vaccines-as-experts-warn-of-risks/

As I've said all along, the genetic modification injection is driving what they labeled 'covid-19'. Not the other way around. In this way, mixing and matching makes perfect sense.

If you have a hypothesis which continues to explain events as they happen, it's a sign that you are on the right track. I didn't predict this 'mixing is fine' development, but that's mostly because I didn't think they'd consider it a good marketing strategy. Anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together will raise their eyebrows on this one. The question is, will a celebrity doctor be able to put the semi-thinker + crowd back to sleep again?

Or a guy who LARPS as a doctor on the bitcointalk forum?

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UK is adjusting their strategy on the 2nd doses. The original protocol was something like a few weeks from the first dose to the second -- UK is now extending that period and allowing different vaccines to be mixed in. Meaning, you take the Pfizer vaccine as the first dose, then take the Moderna dose. Health experts are saying this makes no fucking sense, because it doesn't. Vaccines are based on the spike proteins, but is it a good idea to then begin mixing vaccines that have not passed basic scrutiny through clinical trials together?

https://nypost.com/2021/01/01/uk-allows-mixing-covid-19-vaccines-as-experts-warn-of-risks/

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Quote from: tvbcof on January 02, 2021, 02:34:30 PM

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I would not rule that out.

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