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legendary
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August 18, 2014, 01:41:32 PM
#32
In a world without electronics, even gold would become a worthless commodity.

I'm stocking up on tinned beans. Currency of the future.

tinned beans to the mooooooon!  Grin

Don't forget the precious metals brass and lead. Wink
sr. member
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August 18, 2014, 12:25:51 PM
#31
Spoetnik you big retard, how boring this community will be without you.
full member
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August 18, 2014, 11:39:45 AM
#30
In a world without electronics, even gold would become a worthless commodity.

Those damned pyramid building Egyptians, their habitual phone texting delayed the pyramids by ~10 years.
sr. member
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August 18, 2014, 11:14:50 AM
#29
In a world without electronics, even gold would become a worthless commodity.

I'm stocking up on tinned beans. Currency of the future.

tinned beans to the mooooooon!  Grin
legendary
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August 18, 2014, 10:11:19 AM
#28
I've read that if one removes the cord from a microwave oven it can be used as a faraday cage.

There's some skepticism about that; some preppers who looked into it think it might not work all that well. But then again, they're perfectionists.

Smiley

Perfectionists with good reason but it's kind of like plugging the dam with your pinky. If our planet absorbed emp's on a widespread scale, whether from the sun or nukes 10 miles up,... cryptocurrency will be the least of our problems.

Imagine every hospital going dark. + All refrigeration failing at once. + All safety systems at nuclear facilities failing. I'm sure you all can come up with 100 or 1000 more items to add to the list.

At least two books have gone into that in great detail:

"One Second After"
http://www.amazon.com/One-Second-After-William-Forstchen/dp/0765356864

"Lights Out"
http://www.amazon.com/Lights-Out-David-Crawford/dp/0615427359/ref=pd_sim_b_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=13885XW988WSKR2CXTWD

legendary
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August 16, 2014, 05:15:51 PM
#27


ALL coins dead 15 minute warning !

'Earth will have 15 minutes to protect electronics'

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WASHINGTON – Scientists around the globe are joining those in the United States in becoming alarmed at the possibility of a plasma cloud from a solar superstorm that could wipe out vast electronics networks, because they say Earth would have only a notice of about 15 minutes

This will "knock out" all digital currencies and it could happen right now !

not "if" but when..

and the reality is most people will never even see the 15 minute warning.

also i brought this up on cryptsy chat before a couple times because i want people to be prepared even if they all laugh it off.
ya might as well get prepared before it's too late people !

FTFY

"simple faraday cage"


https://www.google.com.au/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=simple+farday+cage&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=2DLvU-LoNomE8Qeq3YGYDw#channel=fs&q=simple+faraday+cage&spell=1


You can't Faraday cage the huge machines needed to the energy production and transmission, neither the places from the internet core, etc...
And I guess transmissers and receivers won't work inside a faraday jail.

So you will have your computer intact, but it will be useless because all the electricity infraestructure will be compromissed
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August 16, 2014, 04:49:15 PM
#26
Very nice read on the subject:

http://www.futurescience.com/emp/emp-protection.html

I just Faraday wrapped my portable shortwave radio and Geiger counter. (Orange Alert Cheesy)

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Many people severely underestimate the need for information in any kind of a disaster.  In recent examples of long-term disasters (such as the breakdown of civilization in the former Yugoslavia in the 1990s), many people actually died while undertaking risky activities in order to obtain information.

legendary
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Bitcoin is antisemitic
August 16, 2014, 03:56:56 PM
#25
Zeroing things out could be awesome!  Grin

maybe, if you keep your coins in a paper wallet.
hero member
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August 16, 2014, 03:50:18 PM
#24
And USB drives etc NOT safe ?
hmm ? if they don't have active power i thought they would maybe be ok but i am not sure.

I guess that any electronics exposed to an EMP would be fried for good.

Could be an up side to it, any mortgages or other debt could be erased also. I suspect that very little backup tape/ SAN storage is stored in a EMP safe zone. Would be awe-full hard to restore everything from Paper archives.

Zeroing things out could be awesome!  Grin First rule of fight club...
legendary
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Bitcoin is antisemitic
August 16, 2014, 03:13:50 PM
#23
And USB drives etc NOT safe ?
hmm ? if they don't have active power i thought they would maybe be ok but i am not sure.

I guess that any electronics exposed to an EMP would be fried for good.
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
August 16, 2014, 03:07:27 PM
#22
In a world without electronics, even gold would become a worthless commodity.

I'm stocking up on tinned beans. Currency of the future.

Really ? why would gold be worthless ?
I always assumed it would be the go to currency when fiat fails..

And USB drives etc NOT safe ?
hmm ? if they don't have active power i thought they would maybe be ok but i am not sure.

This problem is a key reason why i think digital currencies could never take over and we will always need a fiat or something.
What i see released for Altcoins does not suit a no electricity situation.. all that i have seen would be rendered useless pretty much.

PS: I loved that picture and thanks for the replies serious or not.. i loved them both funny and informative / insightful.

And this is not a new thought i had.. i have thought this all along and talked about it in Crypto before.
some guys may want to reconsider having TOO MUCH invested in altcoins considering they are reliant on electricity.

I don't see this as paranoia as more a clock ticking until it happens again and last time with New York we in North America got lucky..
And since then we have expanded our reliance on electricity AND satellites by leaps and bounds (since 1991)
There is lots of other threats that could hit us like a gamma ray burst etc..
But when it comes to the most probable and highly likely to happen some time soon the biggest concern for me of them all is a CME.

edit:
I don't want people to think i am a nutjob or trolling !
I like conspiracy talk stuff but i find most of it bs.
Like there is a lot more dangers i was just trying to say but their time scales are today or in a 100+ years etc
I sure as hell don't think we will have to wait 100 years for a CME they do in fact his us a lot.. and it's a very real and active threat.
The only panic mongering NASA does is about CME's for example they don't warn the public about ANYTHING else.
So if you can't take the world scientists and NASA giving you a LOUD warning then who will you all take a warning from then ?
sr. member
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August 16, 2014, 03:00:00 PM
#21
While the OP may be crazy. A CME/solar flare could be disastrous to a crypto currency. We should safeguard against this.
hero member
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August 16, 2014, 02:53:35 PM
#20
In a world without electronics, even gold would become a worthless commodity.

I'm stocking up on tinned beans. Currency of the future.
legendary
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Bitcoin is antisemitic
August 16, 2014, 02:50:25 PM
#19
anyone knows if CD/DVD are EMP-resistant?
Because any data on hard disk and USB keys/flash memories would be probably pretty much FUBAR
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August 16, 2014, 02:40:28 PM
#18


Okay, I'm ready! Mister Sun bring it  Angry



Damn i think you're ready.

Love that picture.
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
August 16, 2014, 01:51:20 PM
#17
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronal_mass_ejection

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Coronal mass ejections release huge quantities of matter and electromagnetic radiation into space above the sun's surface, either near the corona (sometimes called a solar prominence), or farther into the planet system, or beyond (interplanetary CME). The ejected material is a plasma consisting primarily of electrons and protons, but may contain small quantities of heavier elements such as helium, oxygen, and even iron. The theory of heavier element emissions during a CME is speculative information and requires further verification. It is highly unlikely that a CME contains any substantial amount of heavier elements, especially considering that the sun has not yet arrived at the point of helium flash and thus cannot begin to fuse elements heavier than helium.

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Impact on Earth

When the ejection is directed towards Earth and reaches it as an interplanetary CME (ICME), the shock wave of the traveling mass of solar energetic particles causes a geomagnetic storm that may disrupt Earth's magnetosphere, compressing it on the day side and extending the night-side magnetic tail. When the magnetosphere reconnects on the nightside, it releases power on the order of terawatt scale, which is directed back toward Earth's upper atmosphere.

Solar energetic particles can cause particularly strong aurorae in large regions around Earth's magnetic poles. These are also known as the Northern Lights (aurora borealis) in the northern hemisphere, and the Southern Lights (aurora australis) in the southern hemisphere. Coronal mass ejections, along with solar flares of other origin, can disrupt radio transmissions and cause damage to satellites and electrical transmission line facilities, resulting in potentially massive and long-lasting power outages.[6][7]

Humans at high altitudes, as in airplanes or space stations, risk exposure to relatively intense cosmic rays. Cosmic rays are potentially lethal in high quantities. The energy absorbed by astronauts is not reduced by a typical spacecraft shield design and, if any protection is provided, it would result from changes in the microscopic inhomogeneity of the energy absorption events.[8]

This has knocked out our power grid on the east coast USA and Canada not all that long ago.
Satellites are critical to our way of life now..
100 years back we had telegraph machines spontaneously catching fire as well as other reports of fires
and we also had telegraphs that reportedly worked across the Atlantic ocean LOL
As well as news reports around the globe with northern lights on the fucking equator !

Every one should know what happened in those two incidents and this should be taken seriously.
and it applies to Crypto coins because we should be prepared to protect our coins and to plan for a time with no electricity.
If enough damage is done bad enough it would take that much longer to repair it and the longer your out of power the worse it's going to get !
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
August 16, 2014, 01:47:50 PM
#16
faraday cage ? hmmm i will have to search that up !
sounds familiar.. didn't Zak use one of those on Ghost Adventures ?

and here is my BTC "extortion address" = 13SF62HQv4mQaTXv5XyeotpNeCQE5c5fZv
send me Bitcoin or i will give you all the "Spoetnik Treatment" !

anyway in all seriousness i would hope our society does not collapse that and so we could recover.
It would be pretty bad having say all power in North America Knocked out *again (it's happened before)
I'd prob want to keep as much on usb sticks etc as i could and hope the coins can live in if and when power is ever restored.
Although it could be so bad that it knocks our society back 50 or 100 years back to damn near the stone age.
We won't be rammblin' on about any Bitcoin that is for sure when a big enough CME hits us soon !

It's not me that is saying it either it's all of the worlds scientific communities and NASA and they have been telling us all along but do you listen ?

edit:
and the date of the story makes no difference..

all diesel systems are more "robust" to EMP

the US army adapted a Diesel Dirt-bike and many other pieces of hardware

the Russian Federation is very familiar with EMP, so are most other nation of the world.

this biggest risk is to transformer points of the electricity grid i think, oh also heaps of other "non essential" electronics.

Coronal mass ejections are not quite the same as an EMP i think.
Have you ever researched our history with them ?

The bottom line is it's happened 2x with major consequences in the last 100 years and we're due right now !
And with us being on the bleeding edge for front of digital currency tech i suggest we be prepared.
I didn't make this topic to troll.. i am DEAD SERIOUS here guys !

Half, Most or even ALL satellites could be wiped out instantly or with a few seconds warning tops..
almost simultaneously we would see the biggest light show in the skies any of you have seen in your life !
instead of Aurora's towards the north pole they would be hammering the living shit oft the equator.. all the way up tot he north pole !

The North American power grids have never been fixed and upgraded since this happened in the 90's stretching from Florida to Quebec.
And i doubt any other countries will fair much better.

The US military may have a bit protected fro their own use but it won't matter.. we the people do and we're not protected
and if your power is cut off we are super mega ultra fucked.. not up for debate this is a cold hard fact !
And so called digital currencies will be rendered useless !

We're ultra screwed and clock ticks i don't see any way around it.
It's going to happen and soon and that is that.. it's not up for debate LOL
If you knock out power to greater than 50% of the USA alone.. for more than a few days we are in serious trouble.
WW2 was started because of the NY stock market crash that caused a domino effect across the globe.. it's all interlinked across the globe.
Just like the 2003 release market housing crash and recession.. it effectively brought many other countries to their knee's !

Living on borrowed time and not much of it either guys.. and you can laugh all you want but no one will here you because there will be no internet.
I seen people saying on Cryptsy chat before that it was not possible to take the internet down and i think that is cute and adorable and seriously naive.
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No more Rekt and Bust
August 16, 2014, 11:54:44 AM
#15
I've read that if one removes the cord from a microwave oven it can be used as a faraday cage.

There's some skepticism about that; some preppers who looked into it think it might not work all that well. But then again, they're perfectionists.

Smiley

Perfectionists with good reason but it's kind of like plugging the dam with your pinky. If our planet absorbed emp's on a widespread scale, whether from the sun or nukes 10 miles up,... cryptocurrency will be the least of our problems.

Imagine every hospital going dark. + All refrigeration failing at once. + All safety systems at nuclear facilities failing. I'm sure you all can come up with 100 or 1000 more items to add to the list.
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KryptKoin is one of the best!!!
August 16, 2014, 11:49:00 AM
#14
Who has watched Revolution? It's about the world without electricity. It's not that good, but not that bad:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2070791/

Nice show.

What's going to happen today?
Nothing. Spoetnik is trying to attract some attention to a world-without-electricity. (Or maybe he's trying to attract some attention to himself.) Looking forward for Spoetnik's long posts.
hero member
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August 16, 2014, 11:39:55 AM
#13
Who has watched Revolution? It's about the world without electricity. It's not that good, but not that bad:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2070791/

Nice show.

What's going to happen today?
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