ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)

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Quote from: techgeek on September 22, 2016, 11:44:12 PM

Quote from: vindicare on September 22, 2016, 07:31:36 AM

hirap sabihin kung bakit parang walang balita sa ASG ngayon dahil ba sa pakikipag usap ni duterte kay nur misuari? or dahil talagang natabunan lang sa katabaan ni delima hahaha , sana e nagigipit lang sila dahil sa opensiba ng militar at lumiliit na ang mundo nila . Masyado ng malaki ang kelangan nilang bayaran at time na para singilin sila wala ng peace talks ganun din di rin susunod sa usapan.

Hahaha that made me laugh.

But it's most probably because of De Lima alright.

The media is focused on that EJK hearing right now, most probably just to distract people from other issues like this ASG

i cocorrect ko lang haha buti naalala ko si Nur Misuari pala e sa MNLF at hindi sa ASG still sinabi ni Nur na kung pwede e i stop ang opensiba ng AFP sa mindanao at hindi pumayag ang AFP tama naman kasi nasa momentum na sila tapos ihihinto pa . http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/816905/dnd-chief-misuari-wants-military-ops-to-stop-for-talks-for-release-of-sayyaf-captives eto yung story sa inquirer para di malito hehe

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Quote from: techgeek on September 22, 2016, 11:44:12 PM

Quote from: vindicare on September 22, 2016, 07:31:36 AM

hirap sabihin kung bakit parang walang balita sa ASG ngayon dahil ba sa pakikipag usap ni duterte kay nur misuari? or dahil talagang natabunan lang sa katabaan ni delima hahaha , sana e nagigipit lang sila dahil sa opensiba ng militar at lumiliit na ang mundo nila . Masyado ng malaki ang kelangan nilang bayaran at time na para singilin sila wala ng peace talks ganun din di rin susunod sa usapan.

Hahaha that made me laugh.

But it's most probably because of De Lima alright.

The media is focused on that EJK hearing right now, most probably just to distract people from other issues like this ASG

Lol poor Delima.

But you guys are right it's all about getting the attention of the media and the masses to protect something else

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Quote from: vindicare on September 22, 2016, 07:31:36 AM

hirap sabihin kung bakit parang walang balita sa ASG ngayon dahil ba sa pakikipag usap ni duterte kay nur misuari? or dahil talagang natabunan lang sa katabaan ni delima hahaha , sana e nagigipit lang sila dahil sa opensiba ng militar at lumiliit na ang mundo nila . Masyado ng malaki ang kelangan nilang bayaran at time na para singilin sila wala ng peace talks ganun din di rin susunod sa usapan.

Hahaha that made me laugh.

But it's most probably because of De Lima alright.

The media is focused on that EJK hearing right now, most probably just to distract people from other issues like this ASG

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hirap sabihin kung bakit parang walang balita sa ASG ngayon dahil ba sa pakikipag usap ni duterte kay nur misuari? or dahil talagang natabunan lang sa katabaan ni delima hahaha , sana e nagigipit lang sila dahil sa opensiba ng militar at lumiliit na ang mundo nila . Masyado ng malaki ang kelangan nilang bayaran at time na para singilin sila wala ng peace talks ganun din di rin susunod sa usapan.

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To wipe them out is the best thing to do. Pero alam naman natin war is business, so why wipe out the guns and ammo buyers hahaha. Sana nga tunay na all-out-war ang ipairal ng gobyerno para matanggal na ang sakit sa ulo jan sa Mindanao.

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Quote from: techgeek on September 22, 2016, 12:03:39 AM

And another problem is if they kill a true civilian.

It can result to anger and hatred from the family who might join these rebels for revenge.

Well that's what I'm talking about.

If other people will be affected of course they will join the fight

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Quote from: Golftech on September 21, 2016, 12:42:59 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on September 21, 2016, 12:17:39 AM

Quote from: lissandra on September 20, 2016, 11:01:32 AM

Quote from: kamotequte on September 16, 2016, 10:30:44 PM

Quote from: molsewid on September 16, 2016, 01:54:02 AM

Quote from: MyPain on August 26, 2016, 01:50:28 AM

malalaman natin ang saloobin ng ating mga kababayan tungkol sa isyu na ito..

Dapat kasi binobomba nalang yan hindi na makipag gera ang mga sundalo natin nababawasan pa mga matitinong tao sa mundo mahina kasi mga baril e so talo talaga kapag dating sa gera kaya nababawasan ang mga sundalo natin e airfore strike nalang yan pasabugin ang kagubatan

As much as i want this to happen I highly doubt they will do this.
1. Too many civilians would be affected by this and for sure CHR would have a field day
2. Destroying our forest would make Environmentalist go nuts
3, This will do more harm than good on the part of the Administration

Well you have a point.

Unless they are sure they can kill all and only the abu sayaff, plain bombing will only result to more chaos

It is hard to believe that they are just going to kill the abu sayyafs only. Because there is a possibility that some of these abu sayyafs when they are going to get arrested by the military men. They are just going to say that they are civilians and the military are going to have hard time in able to identify if they are saying true.

thats the problem how to verify whether they are part of the groups or a civilian they can hide their identity unless government will surely arrest or kill them all in this war.

And another problem is if they kill a true civilian.

It can result to anger and hatred from the family who might join these rebels for revenge.

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 21, 2016, 12:17:39 AM

Quote from: lissandra on September 20, 2016, 11:01:32 AM

Quote from: kamotequte on September 16, 2016, 10:30:44 PM

Quote from: molsewid on September 16, 2016, 01:54:02 AM

Quote from: MyPain on August 26, 2016, 01:50:28 AM

malalaman natin ang saloobin ng ating mga kababayan tungkol sa isyu na ito..

Dapat kasi binobomba nalang yan hindi na makipag gera ang mga sundalo natin nababawasan pa mga matitinong tao sa mundo mahina kasi mga baril e so talo talaga kapag dating sa gera kaya nababawasan ang mga sundalo natin e airfore strike nalang yan pasabugin ang kagubatan

As much as i want this to happen I highly doubt they will do this.
1. Too many civilians would be affected by this and for sure CHR would have a field day
2. Destroying our forest would make Environmentalist go nuts
3, This will do more harm than good on the part of the Administration

Well you have a point.

Unless they are sure they can kill all and only the abu sayaff, plain bombing will only result to more chaos

It is hard to believe that they are just going to kill the abu sayyafs only. Because there is a possibility that some of these abu sayyafs when they are going to get arrested by the military men. They are just going to say that they are civilians and the military are going to have hard time in able to identify if they are saying true.

thats the problem how to verify whether they are part of the groups or a civilian they can hide their identity unless government will surely arrest or kill them all in this war.

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Quote from: lissandra on September 20, 2016, 11:01:32 AM

Quote from: kamotequte on September 16, 2016, 10:30:44 PM

Quote from: molsewid on September 16, 2016, 01:54:02 AM

Quote from: MyPain on August 26, 2016, 01:50:28 AM

malalaman natin ang saloobin ng ating mga kababayan tungkol sa isyu na ito..

Dapat kasi binobomba nalang yan hindi na makipag gera ang mga sundalo natin nababawasan pa mga matitinong tao sa mundo mahina kasi mga baril e so talo talaga kapag dating sa gera kaya nababawasan ang mga sundalo natin e airfore strike nalang yan pasabugin ang kagubatan

As much as i want this to happen I highly doubt they will do this.
1. Too many civilians would be affected by this and for sure CHR would have a field day
2. Destroying our forest would make Environmentalist go nuts
3, This will do more harm than good on the part of the Administration

Well you have a point.

Unless they are sure they can kill all and only the abu sayaff, plain bombing will only result to more chaos

It is hard to believe that they are just going to kill the abu sayyafs only. Because there is a possibility that some of these abu sayyafs when they are going to get arrested by the military men. They are just going to say that they are civilians and the military are going to have hard time in able to identify if they are saying true.

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Quote from: kamotequte on September 16, 2016, 10:30:44 PM

Quote from: molsewid on September 16, 2016, 01:54:02 AM

Quote from: MyPain on August 26, 2016, 01:50:28 AM

malalaman natin ang saloobin ng ating mga kababayan tungkol sa isyu na ito..

Dapat kasi binobomba nalang yan hindi na makipag gera ang mga sundalo natin nababawasan pa mga matitinong tao sa mundo mahina kasi mga baril e so talo talaga kapag dating sa gera kaya nababawasan ang mga sundalo natin e airfore strike nalang yan pasabugin ang kagubatan

As much as i want this to happen I highly doubt they will do this.
1. Too many civilians would be affected by this and for sure CHR would have a field day
2. Destroying our forest would make Environmentalist go nuts
3, This will do more harm than good on the part of the Administration

Well you have a point.

Unless they are sure they can kill all and only the abu sayaff, plain bombing will only result to more chaos

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Quote from: kamotequte on September 16, 2016, 10:30:44 PM

Quote from: molsewid on September 16, 2016, 01:54:02 AM

Quote from: MyPain on August 26, 2016, 01:50:28 AM

malalaman natin ang saloobin ng ating mga kababayan tungkol sa isyu na ito..

Dapat kasi binobomba nalang yan hindi na makipag gera ang mga sundalo natin nababawasan pa mga matitinong tao sa mundo mahina kasi mga baril e so talo talaga kapag dating sa gera kaya nababawasan ang mga sundalo natin e airfore strike nalang yan pasabugin ang kagubatan

As much as i want this to happen I highly doubt they will do this.
1. Too many civilians would be affected by this and for sure CHR would have a field day
2. Destroying our forest would make Environmentalist go nuts
3, This will do more harm than good on the part of the Administration

tama yung points ni kamotequte kasi kung bobombahin yan magastos at mabuti kung naka trace sila sa satellite at confirm na abusayaf nga talaga yung binomba nila maraming madadamay kung pabara bara lang. Kung hindi lang siguro binara ni digong ang US pwede tayo humingi ng tulong kaso utang na loob nanaman yun at syempre may kapalit at ayaw magpatuta ni digong sa US.

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Quote from: molsewid on September 16, 2016, 01:54:02 AM

Quote from: MyPain on August 26, 2016, 01:50:28 AM

malalaman natin ang saloobin ng ating mga kababayan tungkol sa isyu na ito..

Dapat kasi binobomba nalang yan hindi na makipag gera ang mga sundalo natin nababawasan pa mga matitinong tao sa mundo mahina kasi mga baril e so talo talaga kapag dating sa gera kaya nababawasan ang mga sundalo natin e airfore strike nalang yan pasabugin ang kagubatan

As much as i want this to happen I highly doubt they will do this.
1. Too many civilians would be affected by this and for sure CHR would have a field day
2. Destroying our forest would make Environmentalist go nuts
3, This will do more harm than good on the part of the Administration

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Quote from: MyPain on August 26, 2016, 01:50:28 AM

malalaman natin ang saloobin ng ating mga kababayan tungkol sa isyu na ito..

Dapat kasi binobomba nalang yan hindi na makipag gera ang mga sundalo natin nababawasan pa mga matitinong tao sa mundo mahina kasi mga baril e so talo talaga kapag dating sa gera kaya nababawasan ang mga sundalo natin e airfore strike nalang yan pasabugin ang kagubatan

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Quote from: techgeek on September 16, 2016, 01:14:17 AM

Quote from: Maslate on September 16, 2016, 12:18:31 AM

Quote from: pri3oner on September 15, 2016, 10:58:17 AM

pros kung sakaling maubos lahat ng abu sayaff dito sa pilipinas cguro maraming papasok na negosyante at maiinvest sa dito. cons kung sakaling baka mauubos sila baka ang Commision on human rights nanaman ang kumontra dahil sasabhn nilang extra judicial killings mangyayare

That's right and the present administration should continue there all our war against the terrorist so for once and for all we can achieve peace in our nation, it is good to live in a place where you are confident you are secured.

It would be easy if only we had money to buy advanced equipment.

Considering how small the Philippines is it would be impossible for the ASG to hide with an advanced tool

I saw one video just like that - it has night vision.

The people were just like ants and they were all getting killed with bombs and bullets

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Quote from: Maslate on September 16, 2016, 12:18:31 AM

Quote from: pri3oner on September 15, 2016, 10:58:17 AM

pros kung sakaling maubos lahat ng abu sayaff dito sa pilipinas cguro maraming papasok na negosyante at maiinvest sa dito. cons kung sakaling baka mauubos sila baka ang Commision on human rights nanaman ang kumontra dahil sasabhn nilang extra judicial killings mangyayare

That's right and the present administration should continue there all our war against the terrorist so for once and for all we can achieve peace in our nation, it is good to live in a place where you are confident you are secured.

It would be easy if only we had money to buy advanced equipment.

Considering how small the Philippines is it would be impossible for the ASG to hide with an advanced tool

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Quote from: pri3oner on September 15, 2016, 10:58:17 AM

pros kung sakaling maubos lahat ng abu sayaff dito sa pilipinas cguro maraming papasok na negosyante at maiinvest sa dito. cons kung sakaling baka mauubos sila baka ang Commision on human rights nanaman ang kumontra dahil sasabhn nilang extra judicial killings mangyayare

That's right and the present administration should continue there all our war against the terrorist so for once and for all we can achieve peace in our nation, it is good to live in a place where you are confident you are secured.

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pros kung sakaling maubos lahat ng abu sayaff dito sa pilipinas cguro maraming papasok na negosyante at maiinvest sa dito. cons kung sakaling baka mauubos sila baka ang Commision on human rights nanaman ang kumontra dahil sasabhn nilang extra judicial killings mangyayare

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OO naman yes, pero kung maari sana bago sumabak sa gera ang ating mga sundalo dapat muna nilang palitan ang kanilang mga baril upang me laban naman sila kahit papaano sa abu sayaff , ang mga abu sayaff kahit walang tanke meron naman silang mga bagong high powered gun na kong saan at umaabot ng 1km ang putok ng kanilang mga baril sa mantalang ang atin mga sundalo 400 meters lang.

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Quote from: lissandra on September 13, 2016, 06:22:59 AM

Quote from: kamotequte on September 13, 2016, 04:29:22 AM

Quote from: lissandra on September 12, 2016, 03:17:25 AM

Quote from: vindicare on September 11, 2016, 06:16:13 AM

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Quote from: vindicare on September 09, 2016, 11:31:49 PM

if only our military has satellite that can scan a place yung katulad sa america and other country mahihirapan talagang magtago yang ASG ang nangyayari ngayon manual ang intelligence matagal at kapag nakikita ko sa tv na nagfifire sila ng mortar parang ang kalikasan lang talaga ang natatamaan at hindi ang ASG parang sayang pero sana may purpose yun like para idrive away sila dun sa spot na minomortar at para mapunta sa spot na gusto ng military.

Under the duterte administration they are focus on the improvement of our military and in fact the first move is to increase their salary and with the help of other nation we can have the most advance gadget and equipment to defeat the terrorist.

oo alam ko yan dahil kasama sa mga pangako niya yan nuong election ang point ko lang is kung ginawa yan nung mga previous administration ang pagpapalakas sa military natin di na siguro mahirap mahuli yung mga terrorist na yan kasi capable na ang military natin na tugisin kagad sila using advance equipment kaso ngayon mahirap ipagsabay ang pagpuksa sa kahirapan at pagpapaganda ng military kasi malaking budget ang kelangan dyan.

I'm sure the past administration was aware of the technologies available out there that we could have acquired.

Maybe they just don't care, or maybe even some people are benefiting from this war.

So instead of allotting effort and resources to equipment that can easily wipe out the terrorists, they simply use all our soldiers as a front to make it seem like they're doing something about this problem.

I was thinking na I carpet bomb nila ung areas where they believe na camp ng mga terrorist, but then again its a known fact na ung mga locals e tinatago ung iba kasi binibigyan sila ng pera ng mga un parang Robin Hood effect nila kaya siguro hindi mabomba bomba ng bongang bonga ung mga lugar na yan dahil for sure madaming civilian na madadamay.

I can imagine what our president is going through right now.

It seems like he is trapped, unable to decide with a really good course of action.

We have so many problems and it cant be solved by the Administration alone. Lets just stop the hate and get our acts together.

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Quote from: kamotequte on September 13, 2016, 04:29:22 AM

Quote from: lissandra on September 12, 2016, 03:17:25 AM

Quote from: vindicare on September 11, 2016, 06:16:13 AM

Quote from: Maslate on September 10, 2016, 10:08:56 PM

Quote from: vindicare on September 09, 2016, 11:31:49 PM

if only our military has satellite that can scan a place yung katulad sa america and other country mahihirapan talagang magtago yang ASG ang nangyayari ngayon manual ang intelligence matagal at kapag nakikita ko sa tv na nagfifire sila ng mortar parang ang kalikasan lang talaga ang natatamaan at hindi ang ASG parang sayang pero sana may purpose yun like para idrive away sila dun sa spot na minomortar at para mapunta sa spot na gusto ng military.

Under the duterte administration they are focus on the improvement of our military and in fact the first move is to increase their salary and with the help of other nation we can have the most advance gadget and equipment to defeat the terrorist.

oo alam ko yan dahil kasama sa mga pangako niya yan nuong election ang point ko lang is kung ginawa yan nung mga previous administration ang pagpapalakas sa military natin di na siguro mahirap mahuli yung mga terrorist na yan kasi capable na ang military natin na tugisin kagad sila using advance equipment kaso ngayon mahirap ipagsabay ang pagpuksa sa kahirapan at pagpapaganda ng military kasi malaking budget ang kelangan dyan.

I'm sure the past administration was aware of the technologies available out there that we could have acquired.

Maybe they just don't care, or maybe even some people are benefiting from this war.

So instead of allotting effort and resources to equipment that can easily wipe out the terrorists, they simply use all our soldiers as a front to make it seem like they're doing something about this problem.

I was thinking na I carpet bomb nila ung areas where they believe na camp ng mga terrorist, but then again its a known fact na ung mga locals e tinatago ung iba kasi binibigyan sila ng pera ng mga un parang Robin Hood effect nila kaya siguro hindi mabomba bomba ng bongang bonga ung mga lugar na yan dahil for sure madaming civilian na madadamay.

I can imagine what our president is going through right now.

It seems like he is trapped, unable to decide with a really good course of action.

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