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Topic: [Allegedly fake] Gelfman Blueprint: 7-11% Monthly Return on Your Bitcoin - page 2. (Read 4993 times)

newbie
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Can you verify your funds under management? Given your focus on transparency and AML I assume this will be no problem?

PM me your email and I will send you the audited paper stating our total funds under management.
I'll happily inspect them, but please provide them here so that they can stand up to more than just my personal scrutiny. It's never as simple as just signing a BTC address on this forum....

Here is link containing customer returns and a little more information: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pwytglsfg4wpglb/Customer%20Packet.pdf?dl=0

We have a more informative packet. I have no problem sending out the investor packet to each person individually, so just send me a PM. It includes more information such as our full returns (with our profit) and projections, etc.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Can you verify your funds under management? Given your focus on transparency and AML I assume this will be no problem?

PM me your email and I will send you the audited paper stating our total funds under management.
I'll happily inspect them, but please provide them here so that they can stand up to more than just my personal scrutiny. It's never as simple as just signing a BTC address on this forum....

Going to toss a PM myself and go over the paperwork. I'll report back on thoughts (without disclosing any secretive/private information).
sr. member
Activity: 470
Merit: 250
Can you verify your funds under management? Given your focus on transparency and AML I assume this will be no problem?

PM me your email and I will send you the audited paper stating our total funds under management.
I'll happily inspect them, but please provide them here so that they can stand up to more than just my personal scrutiny. It's never as simple as just signing a BTC address on this forum....
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
Can you verify your funds under management? Given your focus on transparency and AML I assume this will be no problem?

Also, as a hedge fund, you must have holdings.  Do you post those anywhere?  Are you strictly trading altcoins back and forth or are you actually invested in any legitimate businesses with revenues?  I know NastyFans provides an owner list so that claimed holdings can easily be verified by a 3rd party.  I assume your holdings would have something similar.

Given that you promise a 7-11% return on Bitcoin, what risks or obstacles are there to jeopardize this?  Is there a point when your fund will get so big that 11% returns are no longer possible?  Is there a point when the exchange rate will become so high that an 11% return is no longer possible?  I already know the answers to these questions, but I would like to see your response.

Yes it is no problem- send me your email. We're not trading alt-coins or investing in any other businesses as of now. We're strictly trading bitcoin on the market using our algorithm, and creating returns from scalping. The only risk in our business is the exchange running away with our money, which is highly unlikely.

Right now we can trade up to 40k coins while producing similar returns. We pay 0.5% per trade we make, and the more coins we have in trade the lower the fee will be. We can get it down to as low as 0.01%. The exchange rate (currency exchange rate) is paid by our customers if they give us cash. If we receive bitcoins, there is no currency exchange fee.

newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
Can you verify your funds under management? Given your focus on transparency and AML I assume this will be no problem?

PM me your email and I will send you the audited paper stating our total funds under management.
donator
Activity: 4760
Merit: 4323
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Can you verify your funds under management? Given your focus on transparency and AML I assume this will be no problem?

Also, as a hedge fund, you must have holdings.  Do you post those anywhere?  Are you strictly trading altcoins back and forth or are you actually invested in any legitimate businesses with revenues?  I know NastyFans provides an owner list so that claimed holdings can easily be verified by a 3rd party.  I assume your holdings would have something similar.

Given that you promise a 7-11% return on Bitcoin, what risks or obstacles are there to jeopardize this?  Is there a point when your fund will get so big that 11% returns are no longer possible?  Is there a point when the exchange rate will become so high that an 11% return is no longer possible?  I already know the answers to these questions, but I would like to see your response.
sr. member
Activity: 470
Merit: 250
Can you verify your funds under management? Given your focus on transparency and AML I assume this will be no problem?
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
What do you recommend?

PM your email, I'll send you everything.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Right now you would have to contact us, send us your ID + proof of address and sign some docs we send you. Once that is done, we provide you with an account to get started.

Once the site is finished: the registration process will be done through the site and you would be able to upload the docs online. If you're approved we'll email you the docs to sign.

You can send the coins to our address or pay with cash/bank deposit.

All of this has to be done in order for our company to keep running smoothly and follow all AML policies.

Yeah... until things are a lot more solid transparency-wise, I don't think you're going to have an easy job getting people on board then. I personally won't send my ID to anyone that I haven't physically visited/vetted out unless they're a well-known organization, and that's because that makes them easy to pursue if needed.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
Right now you would have to contact us, send us your ID + proof of address and sign some docs we send you. Once that is done, we provide you with an account to get started.

Once the site is finished: the registration process will be done through the site and you would be able to upload the docs online. If you're approved we'll email you the docs to sign.

You can send the coins to our address or pay with cash/bank deposit.

All of this has to be done in order for our company to keep running smoothly and follow all AML policies.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
I'll let someone else analyze this thing. I mean, half of the links on your site don't even do anything (they are just set to #), which means the site isn't complete. Generally people will ensure they are ready for a launch before launching... this is just reading way too much like a HYIP for me. Very similar claims, no solid information other than a MSB number (which checks out but isn't in and of itself verification the site is legitimate -- even the document itself states that), no information on who is doing audits, broken site, new BCT user, despite supposedly being involved for years, etc. etc.

The broken links will be all up very soon. This is just the front end anyways and it has been changed completely from the previous version.

The most important part of the site is fully functional. That is when you're registered and login to your account. There you'll see your balance, and have your results displayed for your whole investment period. You can also deposit/withdraw from there.

Audit information can be given upon request- PM me with your email address. We are trying to be as transparent as we know ourselves how much skepticism surrounds the bitcoin community (sometimes for good reason).

I actually tried to sign up to check the backend. It says we need 3 "license keys." There's no information on what these refer to or how to obtain them. It also asks for "User Identifier," which is separate from username/email, again with no information on what it means.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
I'll let someone else analyze this thing. I mean, half of the links on your site don't even do anything (they are just set to #), which means the site isn't complete. Generally people will ensure they are ready for a launch before launching... this is just reading way too much like a HYIP for me. Very similar claims, no solid information other than a MSB number (which checks out but isn't in and of itself verification the site is legitimate -- even the document itself states that), no information on who is doing audits, broken site, new BCT user, despite supposedly being involved for years, etc. etc.

The broken links will be all up very soon. This is just the front end anyways and it has been changed completely from the previous version.

The most important part of the site is fully functional. That is when you're registered and login to your account. There you'll see your balance, and have your results displayed for your whole investment period. You can also deposit/withdraw from there.

Audit information can be given upon request- PM me with your email address. We are trying to be as transparent as we know ourselves how much skepticism surrounds the bitcoin community (sometimes for good reason).
legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1001
Will you be applying for a Bitlicense given that you're located in New York and likely have customers located in New York?

They said they are already in the process. Read the OP.

Thx - skipped the first line it seems.

It's actually in paragraph 3 as well, :p.

"I hope it feels so good to be right. There's nothing more exhilarating than pointing out the shortcomings of others, is there?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L0fS7ZgAJA

Smiley


lol, you've won a spot on my "favorite people of the week" list. +1 to you, sir.

Glad to have provided some value. And on that note, it's bedtime. Nite!
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Will you be applying for a Bitlicense given that you're located in New York and likely have customers located in New York?

They said they are already in the process. Read the OP.

Thx - skipped the first line it seems.

It's actually in paragraph 3 as well, :p.

"I hope it feels so good to be right. There's nothing more exhilarating than pointing out the shortcomings of others, is there?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L0fS7ZgAJA

Smiley


lol, you've won a spot on my "favorite people of the week" list. +1 to you, sir.
legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1001
Will you be applying for a Bitlicense given that you're located in New York and likely have customers located in New York?

They said they are already in the process. Read the OP.

Thx - skipped the first line it seems.

It's actually in paragraph 3 as well, :p.

"I hope it feels so good to be right. There's nothing more exhilarating than pointing out the shortcomings of others, is there?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L0fS7ZgAJA

Smiley


legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Will you be applying for a Bitlicense given that you're located in New York and likely have customers located in New York?

They said they are already in the process. Read the OP.

Thx - skipped the first line it seems.

It's actually in paragraph 3 as well, :p.
legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1001
Will you be applying for a Bitlicense given that you're located in New York and likely have customers located in New York?

They said they are already in the process. Read the OP.

Thx - skipped the first line it seems.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Will you be applying for a Bitlicense given that you're located in New York and likely have customers located in New York?

They said they are already in the process. Read the OP.
legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1001
Will you be applying for a Bitlicense given that you're located in New York and likely have customers located in New York?
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
I'll let someone else analyze this thing. I mean, half of the links on your site don't even do anything (they are just set to #), which means the site isn't complete. Generally people will ensure they are ready for a launch before launching... this is just reading way too much like a HYIP for me. Very similar claims, no solid information other than a MSB number (which checks out but isn't in and of itself verification the site is legitimate -- even the document itself states that), no information on who is doing audits, broken site, new BCT user, despite supposedly being involved for years, etc. etc.
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