Topic: Allinvain $500,000 theft & Black Friday related? CIA / Banker Attacks? - page 2. (Read 19637 times)

I just have one question: Do you go to college to become a conspiracy researcher or do they offer on the job training?

Well then thanks for helping by bumping the post. 

I don't. Just like you I don't know anything, however, being in a position of not knowing I make a point of not crapping out wild speculatory accusations without evidence. Go back and read the first post in this thread, you accuse an apparent victim of being an evil person from an evil empire, illuminati and CIA, the bad guy in some absurd fantasy.

I'm just calling you out on your attention-whoring drama-queenery, like every good citizen should.

I would be happy enough with ANY law enforcement agency verifying his complaint.  No insurance company would file a claim on theft/intentional damage unless a police report is filed (at least from my experience) otherwise whats to stop anyone from saying it.  

Sorry, I cannot hold anyone on this forum to any special treatment just because they say that it happened, I doubt anyone would believe me either.

Well can you tell us why you believe the story as opposed to not believing him?

What makes you think he's telling the truth? Because he claims to be?

A "conspiracy researcher" ... aka a nutbag you mean?

I have an idea.....

What if we offer AllinVain a bitcoin from everybody, if he is willing to reveal his identity to the world?

If someone loses $500,000 and does nothing to report it or disclose their true identity, then as far as i'm concerned, they don't exist and it never happened. Why should I believe otherwise?

It's always the ones with 10 or 15 posts that constantly attack the messenger.
People who call other people assholes are the real assholes. People who post senseless and mean posts on other people's threads are attention whoring or just plain malicious otherwise.

How do you know AllinVain just had his life ruined, and how can you be so sure, hero of the virtual nobody and defender of cybernothing?

Bitrebel, I can't decide whether you're a troll or a genuine crackpot, but either way you're an asshole. Casting accusations at someone who just had their life ruined is a shitty thing to do, selfish when it's for the sake of attention whoring and just plain malicious otherwise.

How does this kind of discussion help anything? It doesn't. It's all about you masturbating your fantasy in public for your own gratification.

Im not sure you understood my comments. Im not sure I understand your coments bitrebel. What you discribed was in essence a community currency. In the USA that is not illegal. If you are saying that congress cant enact a law to regulate or control (or what ever terms you use) btc your wrong, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commerce_Clause . The next question is how to define commerce, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commerce .

Those that fear the boogy G-men should just curl up in the fetial possition and hide under their bed.

As I see it, if the US government for exmaple, were to take action it would be to regulate the exchanges. That action would not only affect btc but lindens and facebook credits (or what ever their called) and other virtual/community currencies. If might even be a good thing, helping to protect consumers. Now if you look at the 80 so years of community currencies this is unlikely.

Now lets look at if a government wants to stop btc. How would they do it. The opening shots would be to freeze the bank accounts of the exchanges. I know what your going to say next. Well they will just move somewhere else. That is true. But that will take time. Now how many exchanges are you willing to goto when each time you loose your money and btc? There will be winners and loosers in this process. Not everyone will loose everthing but some will.

This doesnt mean that bitcoins will die. They will still be used but more like a barter system. Their will be those that will give you cash for you btc.. But turning btc into cash will be alot harder. When merchants can no longer convert btc in cash easilly they will flee btc.

I fear nothing. Say it. I fear nothing.

LOL,
The funny thing is that article brought me to revisit Bitcoin...I heard about it years ago, did nothing.  Then I was like "Is this mining really worth that power cost?" and I decided it was...so in my eyes it was a positive article.

Exactly! and like I stated previously, to purchase 25,000 bitcoins even at .25 each, would only have cost them $6000, which would have been nothing to invest, to make a transfer from one of their accounts, to another one. Then plant the story on the forum. From there on, any media outlet that is co opted, which is 90% of them, can take the story and run with it.


Read more: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/06/week-in-tech-full-speed-ahead-on-the-lulzboat.ars

"A risky currency? Alleged $500,000 Bitcoin heist raises questions: A longtime Bitcoin user claims that a hacker has stolen half a million dollars worth of virtual currency. The story highlights the risks of using a financial system without intermediaries."

another "unsubstantiated" report -- Maybe the first "hit piece" against bitcoin, RIGHT BEFORE the Wired and Gawker articles appeared on June 1. More fishy timing here.

http://techland.time.com/2011/05/23/report-police-confuse-bitcoin-miners-power-use-for-weed-grow-op/

Report: Police Confuse Bitcoin Miner's Power Use for Growing Weed
By Jerry Brito on May 23, 2011

There are unconfirmed reports today that at least one Bitcoin miner has been raided by police because unusually high power consumption led authorities to suspect that he was clandestinely growing marijuana. The tip comes from an IRC chat captured by blogger Mike Esspe, though there are no corroborating details.

Bitcoin is the anonymous virtual currency that uses distributed computing power to validate transactions. Users who dedicate their CPU cycles to the network are potentially rewarded with Bitcoins. It's like gold mining, except that instead of digging, a miner uses cryptographic math.

Like marijuana growing operations, Bitcoin mining runs up high electricity bills and produces a lot of heat because it employs super-fast computers. High power consumption has previously alerted police to marijuana growing operations and led to busts.

According to one Bitcoin mining blog, “The Canadian town of Mission, B.C. has a bylaw that allows the town's Public Safety Inspection Team to search people's homes for grow ops if they are using more than 93 kWh of electricity per day.”

While it's unlikely that police will be surveilling the power usage of private residences as a matter of course, it is possible that police will look to electric bills and heat radiation to confirm a suspicion. But increasingly ubiquitous prosumer computing could well lead to false positives, not just for Bitcoin miners, but for hardcore gamers, as well as anyone running video rendering farms or web servers from home. It will be interesting to see how courts will adapt to such uses when interpreting reasonable suspicion standards.

Read more: http://techland.time.com/2011/05/23/report-police-confuse-bitcoin-miners-power-use-for-weed-grow-op/#ixzz1PgGMBvFX

...and if he was truly an early adopter he could have got those BTC for 2 pizzas...right?  So very little initial cost by planning ahead...if BTC tanked then their loss for preparing in advance would have been like $20 and a forum registration.

100 Billion dollars a year is spent on military foresight, the RAND corporation plans wars decades ahead of time, and who do they work for? The Bankers.

It's possible, but that must have been some incredible foresight, because the account was created a year ago.