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hero member
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friendsofsatoshi.com
February 01, 2018, 05:41:48 PM
#23
Interesting to see all of this....I know that someone from there reached out a few weeks ago in regards to reordering some Crypto Greeting Cards, but then I never heard back. With these complaints, I will need to re-evaluate if CG should allow them to be a wholesale customer.
legendary
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February 01, 2018, 05:34:21 PM
#22
My overall experience was not great.
Having bought a bunch of stuff in the sale, I still ended up paying waaay over the odds for all items ordered. Compounded by the customs charges I received as many of the items were sent individually.
Turns out, if I had bought all the goods direct from the makers I would have saved my self $100's.

C'est la vie

Viz


Items were dispatched directly from makers, or allthingsdecentral just sent them individually ? Site acts as items listing & payment handling, without having any inventory?

It depends on the item.  When I first started selling my Bitcoin Binary Rounds through the site, I would get all orders and send them out individually (with the retailer getting a %, so of course it is cheaper to buy direct from makers unless they are offering bulk discounts to the retailer).  When it became clear that the items were selling a lot and communications/transfers were getting out of hand, they started placing large orders to hold an inventory and send items directly to buyers from their warehouse.

While they probably should do a better job of alerting customers if their items are being sent from a 3rd party, I'm not sure if allthingsdecentral is directly responsible for any missing or delayed shipments.  It is more likely that their suppliers/makers are slacking.  They do A LOT of business, so I can say with near certainty it isn't a case of someone setting up a scam website.  More likely, it's that they are overwhelmed with orders and having problems communicating with their 3rd party suppliers/makers.

It's 100% on allthingsdecentral.com  It's a business (they get paid) and if you can't properly communicate with your paying customers in a timely fashion then you're a piss poor company and deserve to fail.  They are clearly screwing people over as multiple people have shared.  I will never do business with them again.

That MinerJones dude has a few cryptocurrency collectibles.

Also- https://physicalbitcoins.co.uk/
legendary
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February 01, 2018, 05:15:27 PM
#21
It's 100% on allthingsdecentral.com  It's a business (they get paid) and if you can't properly communicate with your paying customers in a timely fashion then you're a piss poor company and deserve to fail.  They are clearly screwing people over as multiple people have shared.  I will never do business with them again.

I don't disagree with your feelings.  I only wanted to clarify your complaint a bit with the likely scenario from my experience.  Being angry with their communication or ability to verify shipments of 3rd party items is definitely a legitimate complaint.  My wording shouldn't have been that they aren't responsible.  I didn't mean they wouldn't be financially responsible, I meant that they were likely not the direct cause for the items not being shipped and it was probably the failure of one of their 3rd party sellers.

I gotcha. I definitely took that part from it too and agree with the above.  I understand communication and stock issues when you're a 3rd party vendor but you've got to be diligent about notify customers and setting expectations and making sure all items add up to your final checkout price. I don't care to wait at all personally if you're out of stock or whatever.  A couple people here use them to sell their items and that's fantastic.  I want to support them..but they unfortunately can't be trusted. 
sr. member
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In memory of Zepher
February 01, 2018, 04:51:29 PM
#20
I will never do business with them again.

With a reputation for messing with customers, people should just go somewhere else! Is there no good alternative?

Amazon Smiley
legendary
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February 01, 2018, 04:40:45 PM
#19
Being vague and holding onto peoples cryptos, not refunding what was paid in full.....ummm, I call that criminal activity. Funny they only pull that shit on their customers
who pay in digital currency. Should call it Allthingscriminallycentral.com

Surprisingly this is why I haven't been paying for goods in BTC recently.  It seems the word is out among some vendors and in their TOS (NO BTC REFUNDS) they explicitly state they don't handle crypto transactions the same as other payment methods.  I've had a couple bad experiences with vendors after the "BOOM" and am forced to pay with a Card/PayPal to guarantee my transactions safety.

I simply don't trust some vendor(s) anymore to treat the orders with the same level of respect as the older payment methods.
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February 01, 2018, 04:18:14 PM
#18
Being vague and holding onto peoples cryptos, not refunding what was paid in full.....ummm, I call that criminal activity. Funny they only pull that shit on their customers
who pay in digital currency. Should call it Allthingscriminallycentral.com
donator
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
February 01, 2018, 03:46:24 PM
#17
It's 100% on allthingsdecentral.com  It's a business (they get paid) and if you can't properly communicate with your paying customers in a timely fashion then you're a piss poor company and deserve to fail.  They are clearly screwing people over as multiple people have shared.  I will never do business with them again.

I don't disagree with your feelings.  I only wanted to clarify your complaint a bit with the likely scenario from my experience.  Being angry with their communication or ability to verify shipments of 3rd party items is definitely a legitimate complaint.  My wording shouldn't have been that they aren't responsible.  I didn't mean they wouldn't be financially responsible, I meant that they were likely not the direct cause for the items not being shipped and it was probably the failure of one of their 3rd party sellers.
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Just letting you know right now, I'm kinda weird.
February 01, 2018, 03:22:09 PM
#16
I will never do business with them again.

With a reputation for messing with customers, people should just go somewhere else! Is there no good alternative?
legendary
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February 01, 2018, 02:57:03 PM
#15
My overall experience was not great.
Having bought a bunch of stuff in the sale, I still ended up paying waaay over the odds for all items ordered. Compounded by the customs charges I received as many of the items were sent individually.
Turns out, if I had bought all the goods direct from the makers I would have saved my self $100's.

C'est la vie

Viz


Items were dispatched directly from makers, or allthingsdecentral just sent them individually ? Site acts as items listing & payment handling, without having any inventory?

It depends on the item.  When I first started selling my Bitcoin Binary Rounds through the site, I would get all orders and send them out individually (with the retailer getting a %, so of course it is cheaper to buy direct from makers unless they are offering bulk discounts to the retailer).  When it became clear that the items were selling a lot and communications/transfers were getting out of hand, they started placing large orders to hold an inventory and send items directly to buyers from their warehouse.

While they probably should do a better job of alerting customers if their items are being sent from a 3rd party, I'm not sure if allthingsdecentral is directly responsible for any missing or delayed shipments.  It is more likely that their suppliers/makers are slacking.  They do A LOT of business, so I can say with near certainty it isn't a case of someone setting up a scam website.  More likely, it's that they are overwhelmed with orders and having problems communicating with their 3rd party suppliers/makers.

It's 100% on allthingsdecentral.com  It's a business (they get paid) and if you can't properly communicate with your paying customers in a timely fashion then you're a piss poor company and deserve to fail.  They are clearly screwing people over as multiple people have shared.  I will never do business with them again.
legendary
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February 01, 2018, 02:49:37 PM
#14
Thanks for the heads up as I'm pretty sure I've visited the site but haven't purchased anything.

This thread may need to be moved to Service Discussion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=85.0) or Trading Discussion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=8.0).

I will post this there too.  I think its important to have it up in both places.
donator
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February 01, 2018, 01:46:18 PM
#13
My overall experience was not great.
Having bought a bunch of stuff in the sale, I still ended up paying waaay over the odds for all items ordered. Compounded by the customs charges I received as many of the items were sent individually.
Turns out, if I had bought all the goods direct from the makers I would have saved my self $100's.

C'est la vie

Viz


Items were dispatched directly from makers, or allthingsdecentral just sent them individually ? Site acts as items listing & payment handling, without having any inventory?

It depends on the item.  When I first started selling my Bitcoin Binary Rounds through the site, I would get all orders and send them out individually (with the retailer getting a %, so of course it is cheaper to buy direct from makers unless they are offering bulk discounts to the retailer).  When it became clear that the items were selling a lot and communications/transfers were getting out of hand, they started placing large orders to hold an inventory and send items directly to buyers from their warehouse.

While they probably should do a better job of alerting customers if their items are being sent from a 3rd party, I'm not sure if allthingsdecentral is directly responsible for any missing or delayed shipments.  It is more likely that their suppliers/makers are slacking.  They do A LOT of business, so I can say with near certainty it isn't a case of someone setting up a scam website.  More likely, it's that they are overwhelmed with orders and having problems communicating with their 3rd party suppliers/makers.
sr. member
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Cryptoshi Blockomoto
February 01, 2018, 12:59:36 PM
#12
My overall experience was not great.
Having bought a bunch of stuff in the sale, I still ended up paying waaay over the odds for all items ordered. Compounded by the customs charges I received as many of the items were sent individually.
Turns out, if I had bought all the goods direct from the makers I would have saved my self $100's.

C'est la vie

Viz


Items were dispatched directly from makers, or allthingsdecentral just sent them individually ? Site acts as items listing & payment handling, without having any inventory?
legendary
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Merit: 1642
February 01, 2018, 10:57:52 AM
#11
My overall experience was not great.
Having bought a bunch of stuff in the sale, I still ended up paying waaay over the odds for all items ordered. Compounded by the customs charges I received as many of the items were sent individually.
Turns out, if I had bought all the goods direct from the makers I would have saved my self $100's.

C'est la vie

Viz
legendary
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Merit: 1072
February 01, 2018, 10:55:02 AM
#10
Thanks for the heads up as I'm pretty sure I've visited the site but haven't purchased anything.

This thread may need to be moved to Service Discussion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=85.0) or Trading Discussion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=8.0).
legendary
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www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games
February 01, 2018, 10:42:15 AM
#9
I had the same bad experience with AllThingsDecentral as the OP. Some items were received but others not. I had only one item which didn't arrive in my package, and requested a refund but haven't received response from them yet.  Sad

It is order #10449. Below you can see proof that the "B"Pin item has not been shipped yet.  The purchase was made on November 14, 2017.

Proof url: https://imgur.com/a/kuKKY
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February 01, 2018, 10:26:15 AM
#8
hhmmm i placed 2 orders about 2 weeks ago to canada and both order arrived all intact
sr. member
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Cryptoshi Blockomoto
February 01, 2018, 09:52:37 AM
#7
2 weeks days ago, I placed my first order with them. Still waiting for item to arrive (hopefully it will arrive, but who knows…)

I was very surprised, because 1 hour after placing the order, I received an email stating that “your order is on the way to you”. I placed the order during a weekend ( I live in Europe hence I am not sure about their local time, but still…)

Since I was suspicious, I contacted them asking for clarification (if it was an automated message, or my order was actually dispatched). Furthermore, I wanted to place another order, but the automatically calculated shipping fees was probably miscalculated.

I exchanged 2-3 emails with customer support. Although my questions were very specific, their answers were very vague & general. (i.e. if you have received the dispatched notification, then your order probably have been shipped. We cannot have access and manually change the shipping fees etc…)

Always they took around 3 days to reply to me. Then suddenly, 1 week ago they just stopped responding to my emails.



I received the majority of my order however there was much confusion on several items that were never shipped.

In the FAQ on their site is stated that “no central office or HQ. Our employees are located all over the world. We ship many products from the United States, however our vendors are also global and ship from many different locations”.

When you received your items, did all of them came in one package from “allthingsdecentral”, or received them in different batches directly from vendors?
Although I asked support if they do the handling & shipping, or just pass the order to the vendors (and vendors do dispatch), I never received an answer.

TL;DR: $65 order (paid in crypto), might (or might not) got dispatched, stopped responding to my emails. International shipping -no tracking number provided, and now those news about allthingsdecentral  Sad
legendary
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The Stone the masons rejected was the cornerstone.
February 01, 2018, 07:23:48 AM
#6
Just to say, I bought from them but made sure to pay in crappy FIAT dollars and used credit card.

No issues, but then again there could have been had I paid in crypto.

Wish you luck TY!

If they are thieves they will never get a penny from me again!
legendary
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January 31, 2018, 11:20:42 PM
#5
They have been online almost two years. Looks like many items are out of stock. Never bought from them but based on this thread I would use PayPal. Hate to use it instead of bitcoin but right now seems like that is the safe choice. Hope that changes.
donator
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January 31, 2018, 10:03:23 PM
#4
I’m surprised to hear this. Aren’t they one of the oldest and largest retailers in Bitcoin?
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