Alt-accounts actmyname and DarkStar_ are CHEATING EVERYONE

actmyname

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on August 26, 2016, 02:04:07 PM

Not a surprise, but TruthBeTold is gone. Had a good time trolling?

Truth be told, it was just a waste of time for everyone associated. Alternate account links without evidence are thrown around all the time and it only causes frustration.

maybe that's why craig wrong thought it was a good idea to call himself satoshi Roll Eyes

DarkStar_

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Not a surprise, but TruthBeTold is gone. Had a good time trolling?

alpesvillage

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Quote from: Quickseller on August 20, 2016, 11:52:13 PM

Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on August 20, 2016, 01:59:36 PM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on August 20, 2016, 01:46:55 PM

My question is, who's alt is truthbetold's? Seems a bit like he's trying toohard here. There's an agenda behind this, and that's not just me being cynical. Don't know why people can't poke sticks at each other from their main accounts.

Some butthurt banned campaigner from Crypto-Games.net.

I don't think this is necessarily true. It is very well possible that the OP is someone who disagrees with Lutpins behavior and fears retribution if he posts from his main account (if this is a legitimate fear is another discussion), or he simply does not want to post something controversial from his main account.

I would not recommend you dismiss someone's claims simply because they are posting from a newbie account. You should always independently verify what is being said.

Anyway, on topic, I don't think anything the OP is claiming is against any rules. Even if the "TOS" of signature campaigns and giveaways, I would not consider any of this to be scamming, especially not with only two accounts involved. This is especially true regarding signature campaigns, as the owner of the campaign is paying for a specific amount of advertising, which is **exactly** what they are getting.

It is true, even 2 or more accounts join a campaign, the multi-accounts all promote the campaign, no matter how many people behind the accounts, the campaign has been benefited from multi-accounts.

It may be immoral or cheating, but it is definitely not scamming, scamming is much more serious than cheating on multi-accounts.

grtthegreat

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on August 22, 2016, 10:10:40 AM

That isn't my alt account. Not sure why salsa321 sent you a PM though. What would be the point of sending you a PM advertising my alts service when you were already in discussion with me? salsa's PM just seems like a general advertising one (maybe they thought you wanted banners for whatever reason?)

Not sure if sending me PM's from your alt accounts would work but yes, this way you can ensure that any guy seeking banner designs ultimately comes to any of your alt, so ultimately you get the money to design a banner, though via any other alt.

DarkStar_

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Quote from: grtthegreat on August 22, 2016, 10:07:12 AM

As far as cheating is considered, I would like to clarify beforehand that I've not been cheated by DarkStar_ or actmyname.

But, I guess DarkStar_ has another alt account with the name salsa321. Because I have received a PM from this member when I PMed DarkStar_ regarding a banner design. Here's the proof:

That isn't my alt account. Not sure why salsa321 sent you a PM though. What would be the point of sending you a PM advertising my alts service when you were already in discussion with me? salsa's PM just seems like a general advertising one (maybe they thought you wanted banners for whatever reason?)

grtthegreat

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As far as cheating is considered, I would like to clarify beforehand that I've not been cheated by DarkStar_ or actmyname.

But, I guess DarkStar_ has another alt account with the name salsa321. Because I have received a PM from this member when I PMed DarkStar_ regarding a banner design. Here's the proof:

suchmoon

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Quote from: TruthBeTold on August 20, 2016, 10:37:34 AM

What happened::

That's probably the most useless alt-busting post ever. And of course coming from an alt with an axe to grind.

Quote from: TruthBeTold on August 20, 2016, 10:37:34 AM

If someone has the time to establish a blockchain connection

That someone should be you since you feel so strongly about it. Find some actual proof and you'll have a case.

The Sceptical Chymist

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Quote from: Quickseller on August 20, 2016, 11:52:13 PM

Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on August 20, 2016, 01:59:36 PM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on August 20, 2016, 01:46:55 PM

My question is, who's alt is truthbetold's? Seems a bit like he's trying toohard here. There's an agenda behind this, and that's not just me being cynical. Don't know why people can't poke sticks at each other from their main accounts.

Some butthurt banned campaigner from Crypto-Games.net.

I don't think this is necessarily true. It is very well possible that the OP is someone who disagrees with Lutpins behavior and fears retribution if he posts from his main account (if this is a legitimate fear is another discussion), or he simply does not want to post something controversial from his main account.

I would not recommend you dismiss someone's claims simply because they are posting from a newbie account. You should always independently verify what is being said.

Anyway, on topic, I don't think anything the OP is claiming is against any rules. Even if the "TOS" of signature campaigns and giveaways, I would not consider any of this to be scamming, especially not with only two accounts involved. This is especially true regarding signature campaigns, as the owner of the campaign is paying for a specific amount of advertising, which is **exactly** what they are getting.

Pffft. Or it could be someone with a huge conflict of interest. Or it could be both. And that's why it's good to know who's doing the accusing. And you are the last person on the face of this forum who ought to be giving an opinion on alts.

DarkStar_

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Quote from: septian44 on August 20, 2016, 11:42:57 PM

you know about actmyname and DarkStar_ if they hurt you why you do this?..what your profits?..
I do not defend anyone what is the problem Truthbetold,actmyname and DarkStar_.
I hope the problem is solved

I don't think I ever hurt or even talked to cpfreeplz before, so what is your reference to the "I hurt him" claim? I doubt actmyname hurt cpfreeplz too, so I'm surprised that you know more about what I did than I know myself. If you actually read the thread instead of spamming, the problem is that TruthBeTold thinks that we are alts, because of similar posting times, and the fact that actmyname advertised for me in his signature/personal text space. There was never a problem in the first place.

Quote from: alpesvillage on August 20, 2016, 11:11:02 PM

The forum doesn't ban multi-accounts, it is legal that one has 2 accounts. You accusation is not a "scam accusation". I think you are the hater of these 2 guys. Shame on you, if you have so much time to investigate, you can apply CIA/FBI job, the salary is much higher than US average salary.

It's now in Reputation, after I reported the post. The "investigation" isn't much either.

Quote from: cpfreeplz on August 20, 2016, 10:45:17 AM

Edit: so far I don't see any proof at all to what you claim. I'm sure we could find 100 users that have similar posting times. It is a little suspicious that the one account is advertising the other but it really doesn't prove that it's an alt.

Good point. It isn't very unlikely that we live in the same time zones. Also, if we really were alts, why didn't actmyname use my personal text before a week or so ago when he started? I started my lending business over 5 months ago, and have used that personal text for a while now.

Just so you know, Fataunt isn't my alt either, even though he might be wearing my personal text soon and is in the Bitsler campaign.

Quote from: actmyname on August 20, 2016, 07:22:12 PM

Quote from: DarkStar_ on August 20, 2016, 02:31:05 PM

Quote from: TruthBeTold on August 20, 2016, 02:29:25 PM

Quote from: actmyname on August 20, 2016, 01:41:55 PM

-horsedonk-

Do you accept BadBear to publish publicly comparison results of both accounts in question ?

Has BadBear actually done a review of our accounts? I'm fine with it anyway as long as things like IPs are censored (at least partially). Also, who is your main account?

I have no issues with this except for the fact that it'll be a waste of everyone's time. All that would need to happen if this went through (which it won't) is that he'll say, "they're not the same person"

Get BadBear to post now.

mishra1994u

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I think you are also using an alt account yourself because as a newbie you find both of them and looking like you know pretty much about bitcointalk forum.I didnt expect any newbie to be that much experience in this forum.
Because as a newbie what is your problem with him.I am not defending any one but either you dont have any other work to do so just want to make trouble for others.And i am pretty sure it is your alt account as well.

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Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on August 20, 2016, 01:59:36 PM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on August 20, 2016, 01:46:55 PM

My question is, who's alt is truthbetold's? Seems a bit like he's trying toohard here. There's an agenda behind this, and that's not just me being cynical. Don't know why people can't poke sticks at each other from their main accounts.

Some butthurt banned campaigner from Crypto-Games.net.

I don't think this is necessarily true. It is very well possible that the OP is someone who disagrees with Lutpins behavior and fears retribution if he posts from his main account (if this is a legitimate fear is another discussion), or he simply does not want to post something controversial from his main account.

I would not recommend you dismiss someone's claims simply because they are posting from a newbie account. You should always independently verify what is being said.

Anyway, on topic, I don't think anything the OP is claiming is against any rules. Even if the "TOS" of signature campaigns and giveaways, I would not consider any of this to be scamming, especially not with only two accounts involved. This is especially true regarding signature campaigns, as the owner of the campaign is paying for a specific amount of advertising, which is **exactly** what they are getting.

septian44

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Quote from: cpfreeplz on August 20, 2016, 10:45:17 AM

Quote from: TruthBeTold on August 20, 2016, 10:37:34 AM

What happened::

User actmyname and DarkStar_ are alts of each other, and as such have cheated multiple services and campaigns, claiming giveaways multiple times, joining campaigns with anti multi account rules .. etc
All this has been repeated big number of times, and is nothing other than straight out cheating/ripping-off services.

Scammers Profile Link:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/actmyname-465017 actmyname
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/darkstar-507936 DarkStar_

Summary::

- At first, i just noticed how often these two users are posting one after another and/or in same threads across the forum, which was interesting, so i took a look in their statistics:

- Many times i have seen them two having the same signature of lending service they(he) operate(s), and you can now see same private message space used
https://s3.postimg.io/gy5jnmbgj/loanfuck.jpg

You can see him doubleposting with his alt accounts one on top of another, purely in order to pad his post count.

http://archive.is/2O7ht

Not only that, but the very campaign that he is in forbids multi accounting in their tos. He is CHEATING THEM !

Code:

1 bitcointalk account per person(If you are found to be enrolling alts you and your alt are kicked out with no pay)

You can see him casually cheating out of primedive giveaways..
http://archive.is/aZs0A

Aaaanddd another one cheating another PD giveaway .. again one under the other ..
http://archive.is/grYcd

aaaannddd anotherr one https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wOk6SW269El5YnnJ3KpN2Fb2AqvM0CbnuVfq0-jOXWs/pubhtml (search alts darkstar and actmyname..)

guess what ? aanother oneee https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eq_3Cg5S8EwrrIzzC1xw4jMha2Q-ufQuef7bnPMa_gk/pubhtml# (search alts again.)

If someone has the time to establish a blockchain connection, here's a list of addresses i found, but i think he doesn't mix them, infact he's using two seperate wallets.
(https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13953714)

actmyname
64Block_6zSSOvNnDcQL97p5QTSho9
1Lwc4Hq28nnT6w31nj6QCPNwUxdPM7QTYS
17U6PZ9WvkB2P9Cc4AknrabkV5GvnXPmWS
1FKu5iqyVwkFjXuNCgwra5M4iuWtWJeKMg
1KbufurqfAM8jbJnurpyqFxw96pMNi9UTb
1NqeBjdxL6KtsYAuHqjv56kH1eoP1jmx7V
1LyYKE2Xe11zap6Yus2LZwwL4ihybvSkBQ
3Ftb5ftTbLrXkYqao5TTp4RggvVwHj5E6v
1PsqVBRc3hZyr6NXaf1Ziu9sQmoqfLRPie
1K4cXgjRuv7pUMqTXNdtH7bmZeU1NdP2ki
1CtFJzsRt7tW72cDfin7AX7HThnbxUvLqZ
1QGKLAZoeu28PuDu51aQAN6Sn6ZN4TMENs
1Ca9PUttG4hb8AwwCPwr3mREQc6sXEawDC
1AjwinLCyCgG33H3xh4XBF4iVVUzMkHZsi
1P4MWqsWgLe38uVFtXXorjmTrLxUihyHeD
1Eq3rRv4X2DGe9tzFDmL9EbHe4sC4jvyJ2
1DsdKHQTdmm6XizCY6LVfdoB2iSynVeVdz
1Jewgw2Vi3waLvJKjTcYy7EdTLiAZySzrV
1FdDKgvY5EbEUcLUjucvNbG1aTMmKhHiRE
1LEr1iaNUma42FqgiDnHfm6V3zNEHrtnn9
1NqeBjdxL6KtsYAuHqjv56kH1eoP1jmx7V
1LyYKE2Xe11zap6Yus2LZwwL4ihybvSkBQ
1PNGzXKGp2jPt693jqqrGdEG2vnwJoUPLw
1NqeBjdxL6KtsYAuHqjv56kH1eoP1jmx7V
1CDXFYE9WHCtMPHUcPXGDcAxhYeU3mCqNp
1Hk2SKH5u5XaVQtzEiyj9ZWLkzwHRJ3UYC

darkstar_
DENYiqpxHFnmsKPLdRqN1PpYrJRqgrbfVH
1PpbPUGKRCWcHVdpsJExyHZHKgoRtpkiNL
1STAR8KiRzcqWx5tXmvxRhdLcXtYHjzzY
...

At this point i gave up searching for additional examples of straight out cheating
I have more archived stuff , boringgg double-posts, spam, and so on..

If someone from mods is reading, please edit the post so that it shows images, please

yawn..

Still having a read through to see the legitimacy here, but figured I'd quote the OP so we can see the images.

Edit: so far I don't see any proof at all to what you claim. I'm sure we could find 100 users that have similar posting times. It is a little suspicious that the one account is advertising the other but it really doesn't prove that it's an alt.

you know about actmyname and DarkStar_ if they hurt you why you do this?..what your profits?..
I do not defend anyone what is the problem Truthbetold,actmyname and DarkStar_.
I hope the problem is solved

alpesvillage

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The forum doesn't ban multi-accounts, it is legal that one has 2 accounts. You accusation is not a "scam accusation". I think you are the hater of these 2 guys. Shame on you, if you have so much time to investigate, you can apply CIA/FBI job, the salary is much higher than US average salary.

actmyname

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on August 20, 2016, 02:31:05 PM

Quote from: TruthBeTold on August 20, 2016, 02:29:25 PM

Quote from: actmyname on August 20, 2016, 01:41:55 PM

-horsedonk-

Do you accept BadBear to publish publicly comparison results of both accounts in question ?

Has BadBear actually done a review of our accounts? I'm fine with it anyway as long as things like IPs are censored (at least partially). Also, who is your main account?

I have no issues with this except for the fact that it'll be a waste of everyone's time. All that would need to happen if this went through (which it won't) is that he'll say, "they're not the same person"

DarkStar_

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Quote from: TruthBeTold on August 20, 2016, 02:29:25 PM

Quote from: actmyname on August 20, 2016, 01:41:55 PM

-horsedonk-

Do you accept BadBear to publish publicly comparison results of both accounts in question ?

Has BadBear actually done a review of our accounts? I'm fine with it anyway as long as things like IPs are censored (at least partially). Also, who is your main account?

TruthBeTold

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Quote from: actmyname on August 20, 2016, 01:41:55 PM

-horsedonk-

Do you accept BadBear to publish publicly IP comparison results of both accounts in question for the period of last week ?

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on August 20, 2016, 01:46:55 PM

My question is, who's alt is truthbetold's? Seems a bit like he's trying too hard here. There's an agenda behind this, and that's not just me being cynical. Don't know why people can't poke sticks at each other from their main accounts.

Yet to be discovered.Some butthurt banned campaigner from Crypto-Games.net.I feel such threads shouldn't be taken into consideration at all.Such alt's are a joke to me.What does it take to post it from the main account anyway ? The fear that they might be wrong and afraid of speaking against the DT members holds them back from getting their accounts negative repped.Afterall,its worth a few satoshis.

DarkStar_

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Quote from: TruthBeTold on August 20, 2016, 11:08:48 AM

You cant have blockchain connection on separate wallets that dont interconnect, but you do have to be blind not to see that they are same person.
BadBear can provide last week's ip log comparison between the accounts if the scammer tries to deny the truth.

Sure. Convince him to, but first, provide solid proof that we are alts. You won't find any, since we're not. Regarding the signature thing, actmyname sent me a PM asking for my signature since he was busy for that time so he wouldn't make enough posts for a campaign. If that logic links us as alts, than Rotator who has a line advertising my signature is my alt, Digital_Lord and Fautnut are also my alts since they wore my avatar, and both the avatar and signature were created by Avinues, so that makes us alts as well right?

If you look at the posts in sections, he has over 150 posts in off topic, while I have 1. Similar posting times are worthless as well, since the chance that we are in very similar time zones isn't that unlikely.

You also forgot the address 1DarkStrRagcDjWtsPGxkav4WG3poLXzDS in your thread, somehow, and all my loan repayment addresses.

Get some solid proof, and post from your real account.

The Sceptical Chymist

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My question is, who's alt is truthbetold's? Seems a bit like he's trying too hard here. There's an agenda behind this, and that's not just me being cynical. Don't know why people can't poke sticks at each other from their main accounts.

actmyname

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Spear the bees

Wait, you mean because I wanted to lend my signature space to him I should be punished? Oh dear god...

I'm sorry, but just because we're responding to you negatively doesn't mean we're alts. After all, if that were the case, then I'm obviously an alt of TwitchySeal, Lutpin, game-protect, mexxer-2 Roll Eyes

Actually, thanks for bringing attention to me about the giveaways! That's actually pretty awesome that DarkStar_ and I are so in-sync. No wonder I wanted to advertise for him temporarily.

Just remember, folks. When it gets rough, just accuse them of having alts! That always works, right?

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