About this "Game protect guy" I have never had any interaction with him any way. When we first joined the forum, had no idea how the forum operates, who to talk to for advice etc. We needed someone to walk us through everything and of course, manage our account so, we reached out to a few people. I am very positive we never sent any such message to this user as we were contacting only people with some level of trust and reputation. The message itself, i don't believe its fake but him receiving it, surely not real so, there is some kind of editing going on here. I will spend sometime checking everyone i sent a message to in this time frame and we will find out who that message was sent to and that user would have to explain how "Game protect" got that message or maybe his second account. I will look into this. And about him working with us, the most insane thing ever. (We never worked or are working with him).
I will update this as soon as i find anything.
I think i have a candidate for who this person really is. I will not throw accusations until i have a hard proof.
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nice try gosha.
pretty clever, but not clever enough.
pretty clever, but not clever enough.
Even though I think Betnomi has an unclear policy on her site, I don't think he has anything to do with this situation.
It looks more like Gosha is trying to set a trap for Betnomi. Normally that will be out of revenge, otherwise you won't do such a thing. The question then is what happened between the two.
nice try gosha.
pretty clever, but not clever enough.
pretty clever, but not clever enough.
I found the conversation in my account on Bitcointalk. Watch and judge for yourself.
OK well the main thing is this is from back in April, back before you went truly insane, accusing everybody of working for Sportsbet. You didn't even get suspected of being game-protect until July, three months later, an accusation you defended yourself of on July 25th. So the point being, perhaps you tricked a casino into believing you were a sane person for a little while, which ultimately led to nothing of fruition, and for which you are now punishing them for... That's the best case scenario.
the only thing we are sure about now that both accounts are not handled by the same party. Only way to get this sort out to start with the beginning.
@betnomi
was the screenshot posted by gosha@e-coin fake or did you really sent that message?
@betnomi
was the screenshot posted by gosha@e-coin fake or did you really sent that message?
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Interesting.
However, I do not see anything wrong (except your torn up reputation) to invite you (gosha@e-coin) to work for him (Betnomi). It's very risky to believe you but let's just say the PMs are real and in this case I would like to hear the other side of the story from Betnomi please. Or tell us that those screenshots are fake.
Quoting for reference:
However, I do not see anything wrong (except your torn up reputation) to invite you (gosha@e-coin) to work for him (Betnomi). It's very risky to believe you but let's just say the PMs are real and in this case I would like to hear the other side of the story from Betnomi please. Or tell us that those screenshots are fake.
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Yesterday there was a miscommunication between me and Betnomi, we spoke on Telegram about the text to reply, and then we both posted it, after he said my reply was not decent enough. That is the only truth.
And this is lie @Betnomi 
lol
I found the conversation in my account on Bitcointalk. Watch and judge for yourself.
I felt it was time to take action in this topic, as things went wrong now. What happened yesterday, has nothing to do with Plagiarism.
In fact, I am working with the owner of Betnomi together and we run the site. At first sight, I do not want to tell this but now my name is slandered and Betnomi got away as the good guy, that goes moral to far for me.
Of course you will not believe me, since I have no evidence further. A few months ago, Betnomi invited me to work for them as official manager for their site here on the forum.
After that, we communicated on Telegram. I do not have the conversations on the forum anymore, as Betnomi asked me to delete that. I can assure you it is the truth, and admin from the site here can 100% confirm that that message has been send to me from Betnomi with the invitation to work for them. Yesterday there was a miscommunication between me and Betnomi, we spoke on Telegram about the text to reply, and then we both posted it, after he said my reply was not decent enough. That is the only truth. You should not Tag me, but Betnomi. As I am done working for them since he now tells me that I have nothing to do with him.
Can any admin please confirm this. Thanks.
In fact, I am working with the owner of Betnomi together and we run the site. At first sight, I do not want to tell this but now my name is slandered and Betnomi got away as the good guy, that goes moral to far for me.
Of course you will not believe me, since I have no evidence further. A few months ago, Betnomi invited me to work for them as official manager for their site here on the forum.
After that, we communicated on Telegram. I do not have the conversations on the forum anymore, as Betnomi asked me to delete that. I can assure you it is the truth, and admin from the site here can 100% confirm that that message has been send to me from Betnomi with the invitation to work for them. Yesterday there was a miscommunication between me and Betnomi, we spoke on Telegram about the text to reply, and then we both posted it, after he said my reply was not decent enough. That is the only truth. You should not Tag me, but Betnomi. As I am done working for them since he now tells me that I have nothing to do with him.
Can any admin please confirm this. Thanks.
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Now that post has been removed so I don't think moderators would act on a deleted post.
With enough evidence I think this should be done. If someone plagiarizes and then delete it after getting caught and that helps them to get not banned then this will be very frustrating. Any rules breaking needs evidence and I hope I presented enough on this topic: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5281276
Is this a plagiarism?
Good point. Perhaps gosha/GP wasn't aiming to impersonate betnomi but rather frame betnomi for plagiarism
Now that post has been removed so I don't think moderators would act on a deleted post.
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Seems that Game Protect AKA Gosha@e-coin started a new casino for his own: Betnomi.com
He made a mistake by logging in with the wrong account and made a post:
He made a mistake by logging in with the wrong account and made a post:
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5535/55352590.html (gosha@e-coin)
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Our goal is to process all payouts as quickly and efficiently as possible. people can still use the free 100 usd bonus to test our site. making a withdrawal has no requirements. we will look into each case different and will show that we will not disappoint our customers. and maybe somebody will hit the jackpot on our site as well lol.
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5535/55352601.html (betnomi)
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We appreciate the positive outlook on our website. Just kindly asking everyone gives us a few days to get everything together and tie up all loose ends. Its going to be 🔥 and a lot of fun.
Regarding withdrawals, there is a 24 hour limit of 100,000 Euros. Ie, for every 24 hours, a user can withdrawal up to 100,000 Euros.
Regarding withdrawals, there is a 24 hour limit of 100,000 Euros. Ie, for every 24 hours, a user can withdrawal up to 100,000 Euros.
I was surprise to see so many email notifications for this post on a sudden. And checked the new post to find out the reason and I can not believe my eyes. Thank god that we have LoyceV's tool to check the fake done by gosha@e-coin. So it was like this:
- gosha@e-coin made a comment
- betnomi made a post
- gosha@e-coin edited the comment he maid earlier with the same content that betnomi posted.
- Now it looks like this :
"gosha@e-coin thought he was making a post from betnomi account but later he realized that he posted it from the wrong account, and then he logged in to his betnomi account and made the same post. Us - we fool will think betnomi is an alt of gosha@e-coin and then tag betnomi "
Except some of us - we are not that fool.
Now the question is:
Is this a plagiarism?
I bet it is 100% plagiarism. A new topic is about to pop up in the meta section. Give me few minutes.
Edit: To me this is a tag worthy moral so I left a red tag for gosha@e-coin.
What if Betnomi logged in wrong and messed up with copy? It is a very strange situation.
Suppose Betnomi made a post, but the post was not good after all in his eyes. Then he post this with Betnomi, but then realized he used the wrong account and then copy paste from translation, and things messed up.
There are many cases possible. Or maybe Gosha is indeed trying to set Betnomi up. ican not find the post anymore now, so somebody is trying to cover traces.
Suppose Betnomi made a post, but the post was not good after all in his eyes. Then he post this with Betnomi, but then realized he used the wrong account and then copy paste from translation, and things messed up.
There are many cases possible. Or maybe Gosha is indeed trying to set Betnomi up. ican not find the post anymore now, so somebody is trying to cover traces.
This is an interesting theory. Maybe you should look at the archives and the times here.
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5535/55352590.html (gosha@e-coin)
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5535/55352601.html (betnomi)
Looking at this and the time difference, you would have to assume, 1. I made a post/ reply with the "game protect account" then after one minute, i decided to go reply the same comment with the "betnomi account"
then i came back to edit the game protect account post to match exactly as the betnomi post or however you want to explain it.
Congratulations! Its kinda sad i would have to be responding to stuffs like this. One aimless guy trying to troll/ set us up and now, everyone has to waste their precious time on this.
What if Betnomi logged in wrong and messed up with copy? It is a very strange situation.
Suppose Betnomi made a post, but the post was not good after all in his eyes. Then he post this with Betnomi, but then realized he used the wrong account and then copy paste from translation, and things messed up.
There are many cases possible. Or maybe Gosha is indeed trying to set Betnomi up. ican not find the post anymore now, so somebody is trying to cover traces.
Suppose Betnomi made a post, but the post was not good after all in his eyes. Then he post this with Betnomi, but then realized he used the wrong account and then copy paste from translation, and things messed up.
There are many cases possible. Or maybe Gosha is indeed trying to set Betnomi up. ican not find the post anymore now, so somebody is trying to cover traces.
Except it wasn't. gosha@e-coin copied betnomi's response, as LoyceV's archive shows. I can't think of a reason for sockpuppets to do that.
Yes you are right, so I removed neutral feedback, and I am a bit tired now to research this deeper. posting 100% exact same post.
Except it wasn't. gosha@e-coin copied betnomi's response, as LoyceV's archive shows. I can't think of a reason for sockpuppets to do that.
Are you saying gosha@e-coin is trying to set up Betnomi?
Quite possible. gosha@e-coin replies pretending they're betnomi. Real betnomi posts a reply a few minutes later. gosha@e-coin edits their post (still within the 10-minute window so we wouldn't know if not for LoyceV's archive) to copy betnomi's response. Random newbie just happens to find this thread and posts "proof". gosha@e-coin didn't delete their post, which a real "red handed" sockpuppet would have done instead if editing their sockpuppet post to match their real one... why? Shady AF.
This I found very interesting. I was trying to look at his dictions as a proof that, the post is not from the same person but, he is cleaver enough to copy bits and pieces from my previous comments and reassemble them together. Unbelievable!
what was the neg tag for? Already some people jumped the gun by giving us a neg tag now they are no longer active in the forum to withdraw it.
We kindly request, you take your time and review the evidence before giving people neg tags.
Did I gave you negative tag?We kindly request, you take your time and review the evidence before giving people neg tags.
-No. I gave you betonomi gosha neutral tag because of clear account connection with posting 100% exact same post.
Account connecting? Kindly look at the archive @suchmoon was able to pull out and tell me why i would edit a post from my supposedly second account to match the post from our account? lol
what was the neg tag for? Already some people jumped the gun by giving us a neg tag now they are no longer active in the forum to withdraw it.
We kindly request, you take your time and review the evidence before giving people neg tags.
Did I gave you negative tag?We kindly request, you take your time and review the evidence before giving people neg tags.
-No. I gave you betonomi gosha neutral tag because of clear account connection with posting 100% exact same post.
This is what Ninjastic Space recorded:
https://ninjastic.space/post/55352590
https://ninjastic.space/post/55352601
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Neutral feedback removed because of gosha manipulations.
Are you saying gosha@e-coin is trying to set up Betnomi?
Quite possible. gosha@e-coin replies pretending they're betnomi. Real betnomi posts a reply a few minutes later. gosha@e-coin edits their post (still within the 10-minute window so we wouldn't know if not for LoyceV's archive) to copy betnomi's response. Random newbie just happens to find this thread and posts "proof". gosha@e-coin didn't delete their post, which a real "red handed" sockpuppet would have done instead if editing their sockpuppet post to match their real one... why? Shady AF.
Could be clever setup.
But in his original post he still says:
Wait... what-? I think you are using wrong account to reply.
We do not have any relationship with this users and his is not authorized to speak on our behalf. We recommend, you disregard his comments.
Kind of seems like they were caught red handed... but of course the Betnomi support person swears they weren't... interesting story, needs more supporting evidence.
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