Topic: Altcoin Discussion section can change name to Trash discussion (Read 450 times)

At this point, disabling signature on this section would be fastest way, even though the spammer simply move to another section.
Maybe delete mega thread/move mega thread to trash can every few days would be effective since the spammer won't get paid and wasting their time.


You just wasting your time, it's only effective on section with many real discussion such as Serious Discussion/Development & Technical Discussion.

If that is how you think it should go, considering the amount of spam, then here is a better suggestion:
Take out a board or two, and change the name of the forum from "bitcointalk.org" to "craptalk.org".
Because it is not only one section that is flooded with these kind of things, but it is almost the whole forum that is under attack right now. Name one section after them, and they will compel you to name another too as there is no stopping for them right now. They just get into a section and don't leave it until it starts bleeding heavily, and then they jump out and run towards another.
This won't stop unless these "spam zombies" die. They will keep spreading, and we will keep getting affected by this if our superhero (theymos) don't come up with some poison to be expelled on them that would vanish them for at least some time.

You are right, most of people never read the topic. Perhaps just see the subject and start spamming. Nothing we can do except report. I am very less active on alt coin or on Bitcoin discussion. Although I visit some time than most of time I used report button. Anyway it's result of signeture, especially Jr. Members. Because most of reply from Jr. Members I have seen ever. That's why it's better option to include Jr. Member to merit system. There should be minimum merit to become Jr.member or disable signeture for them. I can't see other solution at this time.

Of course, trashing them would have been my obvious choice also but since I'm almost 99% sure they won't, maybe at least we could lock them, and keep a better track on what happens on the fresh ones that for sure will pop up like mushrooms in both cases.

 I would love to see all the shitposter them crying over the deleted post like it happened last year (? my memory is fuzzy but I'm sure at one point the board was flooded with users angry about lost posts count and lost bounty), but lately, I'm not expecting much to be done.

A few things:

Not all boards under the altcoin section are infected with spam. From what I have heard, the Altcoin Mining section has less spam than the other altcoin boards, and a lot of good discussions occur there.

And there aren't any guidelines or anything to the topics to be created there. Any topic that has the words like "bounty", "airdrop", and any altcoin gets to be there, and the spam starts to take its course.

1/2(welsh moderates only half the boards there) mods aren't enough for the biggest board in bitcointalk.

Since you have seen the dark side, how badly does that section require additional moderators? And are there any guidelines on what type of posts belong there? The altcoin marketplace has a lot of off-topic threads and they always stay there only,unless reported, which is quite rare(I'd assume).

I don't really care for the reasons behind people reporting. As long as they aren't making alternate accounts, and reporting posts purposely to pad their report count. If they are genuinely reporting posts made by other people, then I don't really care for their motives as it still results in a cleaner forum.

I would prefer no badge at all, and no incentive for reporting. Reporting spam posts can also be abused, and someone already mentioned it. If people really cared about the forum, they won't be needing any incentive.

TBH, I grew tired of reporting posts from Announcements(Altcoins), and  Marketplace(Altcoins). Majority of my reports came from those sections, it's stressful reporting them, and my reports now came from topics that are not suited on a section.

I even sometimes wonder if legit investors dare to visit ICO Ann.

It's better to trash Announcements(Altcoins), and Marketplace(Altcoins). They both attract spammers, and scammers.

@OP, those sections that I mentioned is worthy for the signature you advertise. No offense, but the signature you're wearing attracts spammers here, who the hell in the world could make 42 meaningful posts in a week wearing it?

Most of them could probably just be straight up removed, honestly. Most of them have zero content, and are just rehashed replies. Locking them isn't really saying any worthy discussion, and just means the spammers get to keep their post counts.

You can either be part of the members cleaning the section or completely just ignore the section/s related to Altcoin discussion. If you choose the latter go to your Profile > Ignore Boards Preferences > Check boxes related to the Altcoin Discussion (Including Altcoin Discussions in Local Boards). By doing so you the boards you will check will be completely inaccessible to you, you can't even view them if you click the "Show unread posts since last visit" page which is very helpful as for my personal experience going to that page, you will see that most topics shown are ANN and Bounty threads of Altcoins.

Oh, the marvelous Altcoin Section....

With thousands of unique threads


Invest in Ethereum
Is now a good time to buy Eth?
are you holding your ethereum ?
Should I invest in Ethereum now or wait?
shall i convert my bitcoins to ethereum?
Should I sell or hold my ETH?
Are you surprised at the price of ETH?

And with such unique posts....of course, the required copy paster at the fifth search in the first thread...(already reported)



The only way to clean that area is to lock 99% of the topics and instantly delete any duplicate topic that appears with no mercy

Sadly many discussions of the altcoin area are continually influenced by bumping services that use low rank accounts (reading here on the forum, I do not remember exactly where, we talk about a few hundreds of dollars a month) in addition to this fact, the threads bounties are abused from an infinite number of people who use low ranked accounts to abuse with multiaccount.
The solution to limit this is to limit the altcoin area for people with rank member + or copper.

Just use the report to moderator button as much as you can that is the only way we have for now and I can see that there were lot of similar threads were deleted by the moderators in Altcoin discussion as well.

Can we have a separate board for Altcoin Technical Support & Discussion ?
This was a thread of mine started in April. Some of the members argued that they don't need a Alt Tech Support board(in the sense they don't need a good and healthy discussion to take place in the Alt Section) If they disagree with this, then why should something like a Altcoin Discussion Board exist at first? For the spammers to post some bullshit to complete their weekly criteria?

Alts are really helpful in solving many real world problems which bitcoin cannot. On the other hand, this is not a bitcoin forum! I believe that this forum has evolved into a large cryptocurrency forum!

There are some very common repetitive shit threads which are created at least twice a day for comparing Eth and Bitcoin or some other common alts.
If we really need a good discussion to take place we need to request theymos for the Tech Board or something similar like that and I think it won't happen either. At sometimes I just jump into the 20th-30th page of the board and find real good questions which needs an answer.

Some common bounty threads be like

1. I have X$, in which should I invest (this investment amount may even reach thousands of dollars at times )
2. Will shitcoin beat bitcoin?
3. When will shitcoin moon?
4. When will I become a millionaire?
5. How much have you earned in bounties till now?
6. Job Vs Bounties (Should I leave my job for doing bounties?)

These bounty idiots doesn't even know how a cryptocurrency works and are talking shit in this forum...

Reporting won't solve the problem and there are spams generating endlessly by members now and then. And if the mods lock a mega useless thread, another mega thread is created within seconds.
So, It's better to leave the section untouched to rot and just search for the good threads which are buried in there. Theymos would come to a conclusion, if the board becomes uncontrollable by mods in future.

That's the problem, it is no loss to them if it is Newbie or Jr. Member they can simply start again. I'll still report higher ranked accounts as they will suffer by losing them but it is a waste of time banning the ones they can just replace.

The altcoin discussion section is full of spam, you are right, but if you take a closer look there are a few decent posts.

Unfortunately the good posts are buried very fast by the spam in there. This has been discussed numerous time here as well but a good solution to stopping it is yet to be discovered.

In their defense: altcoins didn't exist when Bitcointalk was created. In my opinion, a healthy (with the emphasis on healthy) altcoin discussion fits this forum perfectly.

but at least their account (spammer) is banned or gets red trust after being reported.

I appreciate applying the badge that will be a motivation for more reporter voluntary.

I think something more important than a badge is required.


The real issue is that after putting effort into reporting, finding plagiarism takes time, it doesn't decrease the spam. After seeing theymos' response to the suggestions put forward it is clear that nothing is going to be done in the near future. That does more to demotivate people from reporting than a badge will fix.

I don't see Altcoin Discussion as a training ground for Bitcointalk. After all, it is Bitcointalk, and not cryptotalk or something along those lines.

That's certainly a case. For a forum this size I would expect there to be more users reporting. But, there isn't that many users that do report. Its always the same users reporting. Again, its understandable because its a real pain in the arse to do, and has no rewards whatsoever at the moment. But, hopefully with the introduction of reporting badges that will change.

Altcoin discussion should be great, but it isn't.  Altcoins are hot and are worth discussing, but unfortunately most of the posters in that section are only doing it to earn money...actually, tokens which are only loosely thought of as 'money'.

Take a look at the campaign I'm in, BlocVehicle.  Altcoin discussion is one of only a few sections they pay for posts in.  I am not criticizing that in any way, and it isn't an inherently a bad thing, but we all know that if a campaign only pays for posts in sections X and Y, sections X and Y will be overwhelmed with sig campaigners writing things you can barely understand.  I don't know what the rest of the campaigns are like, but sig bounties are all about altcoins so that's where the BHs post.

The administrator is being kind in allowing altcoin discussion to exist, and imo it probably shouldn't.  It might be the worst section on the forum as op pointed out.  Maybe the forum needs more reporting of bad posts?  Don't know how active the altcoin mod is, but I have seen some doozies that should have been deleted.