Topic: Altcoin4life - HACKED ACCOUNT - Collateral 4 Murderouskirk - Swingdev - ADVICE?? (Read 716 times)

I have made my own scam accusation thread. Please close this one and consolidate the multiple threads open on this topic.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13700602

If anyone wants to follow the full conversation on this topic here's all the links I can find:

In my Swing altcoin thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13580743

In lending: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/altcoin4life-hacked-account-collateral-4-murderouskirk-swingdev-advice-1341677
In Scam Accusations: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13683665
In Meta: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13683675

Hi Swingdev

Thanks for your reply

I will let you know as i am thinking how i should proceed.

Cheers
Altcoin4life

The root of this misunderstanding was my fault. I mistakenly thought Theymos recovered accounts with empty signed messages, and that this is what ALTCOIN4LIFE was asking for as well. My apologies for the inconvenience ALTCOIN4LIFE.


Edit*

Altcoin4life has decided to try to sell me my account back. I'm going to try my luck with Theymos for a while.

Hi everyone just to let you know  that swingdev has still not given a signed message from an old staked address.

But he has sent me 0.0001 BTC to my normal repayment address 1HbPkpQiKgq48mCpL5BTxyVsHf4fjM8uop - Proof is below:

https://blockchain.info/tx/ccae00b48dd1d0a7f80897fc063b469f16ee9c45f09ddb6450a0fe153b6dae74


If he has now proven??? that he owns the old staked address 1E6soVzn7Z5NGguwD9sZfXkVmn8a51Cg71  that was posted here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12788990

WHY CAN HE NOT JUST SIGN A MESSAGE FROM THIS ADDRESS? DOES THIS PROVE HE OWNS THE ADDRESS AS HE HAS MADE A PAYMENT FROM IT?

SWINGDEV, PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE ASKED MULTIPLE TIMES NOW.... WHERE IS THE SIGNED MESSAGE ?

Thanks
Altcoin4life

Mexxer did warn you before trading with that account which you took for granted and still continued the trade as we know this account was probably hacked. I think swngdev deserves his account back, you can make out from the quality of posts he made in the past that he actually us the real owner of the account. Anyway the account is negative repped, won't make any compromises for the loan.

EDIT* Altcoin4Life has made 3+ threads regarding this matter. Please check https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13688781 for further info.

I think  first of all you fault that take account which signed message with "fresh" btc address.
the situation is complex and difficult to find a fair solution for both sides.

Hi everyone.

This is the lender Altcoin4life and i am looking for some advice regarding a situation i have regarding a hacked account i hold collateral for. I recently gave a loan to the user murderouskirk - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/murderouskirk-182223 for the amount of 0.13 BTC. My lending thread is below (LOAN #16 IN MY LEDGER AT TOP):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1295650.0;all

The borrower murderouskirk was supposed to repay his loan on 20 Jan he is now overdue.


When i gave this loan i did not suspect anything and thought he was a legitimate borrower, i took over account as collateral and he provided a signed message here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13554319

His trust looked ok, i transferred the coins to the borrower soon after securing account as collateral.




Within 12 hours of me sending of the money i started seeing negative trust being given against murderouskirk, people saying he tried to scam them, his trust became -2 neg???

PLEASE NOTE THE NEGS HAPPENED AFTER I GAVE COINS, AT THE TIME OF AGREEMENT THERE WERE NO NEGS.




After about 5 days a user called SwingDev https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/swingdev-730429 contacted me by PM, and said he was the original owner of the account murderouskirk and that he was scammed. . I told swing that as the repayment date has not arrived, we should wait. Now the date has passed with no repayment.

I asked him for proof that swingdev was the real owner he said he could not find a staked address....... now a few days ago he said..... he had found an address here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12788990

1E6soVzn7Z5NGguwD9sZfXkVmn8a51Cg71






I asked that he should send me a signed message from this address 1E6soVzn7Z5NGguwD9sZfXkVmn8a51Cg71 , he has refused to provide a signed message and is saying that he can send a  few small coins from this address to me instead, this will prove he owns the address, BUT HE IS REFUSING TO GIVE A SIGNED MESSAGE???




From the beginning i advised swingdev he should contact theymos with a hacked account report, he has said he is hesitant as he has heard theymos does not respond and that many people do not get their account back..... NOW HE HAS RECENTLY SENT A REPORT TO THEYMOS A FEW DAYS AGO.





So i wanted to ask lenders especially

Shall i give back the account of murderouskirk to swingdev? or shall i just wait until theymos checks this out and hands it over to the real owner?

Swingdev is REFUSING to give a signed message so am not sure what to do??

Please can i get opinions on this situation from experienced users.

Thanks
Altcoin4life