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Topic: Altcoiners, don't give up yet. Bitcoin can't do it alone. - page 4. (Read 1066 times)

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Actually, there is a chance Bitcoin dominance rate will reach 90%+ and the most altcoins capitalizations will drop significantly, but it is rather unlikely scenario, so if you believe in altcoins from your portfolio, it is okay to hold them.

why is this an unlikely scenario? I think now is not the best time to hold altcoins, many will still update their bottom and only after that some coins will go up and some will disappear.
legendary
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In the market, there must be various coins. If the market only there is Bitcoin I think it will not run. Bitcoin needs an Altcoin because if there is no competition, the market conditions that I think will be empty.

I don't consider altcoins to be a competitor of bitcoin as I haven't seen even one project that could out perform bitcoin both in adoption and trading. Ethereum showed some positive signals but when it comes to trading and gobal adoption, bitcoin still outperformed ethereum although in utility, ethereum is the no1 blockchain. Libra could out perform bitcoin as no1 most trading coin just as Tether is trying to achieve but that's a story for another day.

The altcoins market should compliment that of bitcoin instead of been competitors  that's why I'm emphazing both coins are needed for a faster and profitable growth of the cryptocurrency industry. Altcoins providers utility while bitcoin provides global adoption of the technology.
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In the market, there must be various coins. If the market only there is Bitcoin I think it will not run. Bitcoin needs an Altcoin because if there is no competition, the market conditions that I think will be empty.

Altcoins are much needed as there are many people who are interested in trading. Although more altcoins certainly these investors experience splits. But like the real world a market should provide a wide variety of goods and crypto markets there is a wide variety of digital assets. Altcoin will continue to grow and have a good future.
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This is exactly my take when the issue of bitcoin vs altcoins is being brought up. Imagine how the market will look like without altcoins. There won't be innovative projects coming up, no diversity of portfolio and the entire crypto industry will be in the hands of the few. Let's not forget that altcoin is another entry point to the crypto industry by which many adopters who could afford BTC at the onset came in. Bitcoin and altcoins needs each, but with only solid and excellent altcoins can we move forward.
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Both bitcoin and altcoin need to support each other so it could change the market to recover the price. When one of bitcoin and altcoin cannot moves, then we will not see a bull run comes. I am sure that bitcoin and altcoin will rise at the right time, although that means, many altcoins cannot follow to increase because of the lack of support in their project. There are still many good altcoins that will support bitcoin and bitcoin do the same. By the way, I like the title, and it shows support for bitcoin and altcoin.
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yes I agree with you, as we see that bitcoin is one of the coins that has an important role in this industry, the ups and downs of bitcoin can also affect the price of altcoin and vice versa. so I think the crypto space is still wide open for bitcoin or altcoin to return to the price as before, it's just that the current market situation still dominates the bitcoin market but that doesn't mean altcoin will lose its value onwards. exactly the altcoin holder is being tested, and in my opinion for altcoin that has good growth, that is one of them that will survive in this market.
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To be sure, my opinion cannot be used as a guide, but I see without altcoin, maybe bitcoin will not work as well as this. The altcoin industry with the price condition that many people complain about is currently very large influence exerted on Bitcoin. That is, the two things need each other.
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Well there is surely the tendency of having the altcoin market increasing in the future but only sold projects with working products would rise after this fall. Hence the reason why you have to do a good research about the projects you are investing into so as to not lose your funds. Most of the ICOs that were launched have failed and team members have abandoned their projects.

I agree, only Altcoin which already has a large product and liquidity will be able to survive against the dominance of bitcoin. I agree that bitcoin dominance will not last long and altcoin will be able to rise but in my opinion not all altcoins will be able to last for the long term, only altcoin with a solid developer team will continue to survive
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Some altcoins are still have a uses and be a help in crypto industry. Some altcoin's platform is very potential aiding the problems like ethereum's platform. If you are asking if we can still survive even without bitcoin? Yes, of course. It's just that we need some altcoins that can provide some lack characteristics of bitcoin, we need alternative coin aside from bitcoin which has high speed in transactions with lesser fees.
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Well there is surely the tendency of having the altcoin market increasing in the future but only sold projects with working products would rise after this fall. Hence the reason why you have to do a good research about the projects you are investing into so as to not lose your funds. Most of the ICOs that were launched have failed and team members have abandoned their projects.
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all coins have been suffering a lot in the recent days, however there is still hope for them. We need all coins and Bitcoin in the cryptocurrency infrastructure to make it worldwide popular on a higher level on an everyday basis.
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I think you are absolutely right. The entire current market can be called a test dummy. This is only trial and error, even if it costs someone too much.
But in view of this, individuals become smarter, unless of course they have the ability to develop. In general, yes, the market is becoming more complex, in view of all that is happening on it. Thanks to all the good and especially the bad. I think the market can completely die out only if the development of new ideas stops, which I can’t imagine.
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Bitcoin is what it is now thanks to altcoins, a lot, lot of people join to crypto thanks to altcoins like Doge, and that since years ago.

Just imagine a nocoiner trying to send bitcoin to a wrong address, or made a mistake writing the amount to send like a fee instead.

A nocoiner trying to upgrade his bitcoin wallet without backup up his wallet dat file.

Nocoiners need altcoins to learn about crypto and how to send transactions without fear, altcoins are necessary to practice.

Also the point on just telling a nocoiner to invest +8,000 usd to buy only 1 bitcoin, nobody likes to have .01 or .001, 8k usd is a lot of money for most people around the world

Global population distribution by income
15% are totally Poor   
56% survive with Low income   
13% are Middle class
9%  Upper-middle class   
7%  Highest income

Forget about Poor and Low income people, the income for middle class is around 50-60k usd per year, we really think they can spend 8k usd to buy a single bitcoin

Thats leave only 15% of world people able to invest in 1 bitcoin.

But thanks to altcoins around 29% of world can afford to buy 1 ethereum or 1 litecoin

Thanks to alcoins 85% of world can afford to buy 1 Ripple or 1 Doge

Altcoins are necessary for Bitcoin to survive.
Good work, but can you provide a source of your information?
Yeah, the alts are great for beginners as a training feature, but the main goal for which new coins are created is to interest investors with an attractive idea and possible rapid growth after IEO or ICO. 2018 and 2019 showed how crypto developers can punish gullible investors for substantial amounts.
In fact no difference whether you buy 0.1 $ BTC or 20 LTC for your $1000, this is all just a psychological factor. But the risk of extinction of any altcoin is quite high.
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No doubt, Bitcoin's dominance is one we cannot begin to argue about, but I believe that even with all that power, Bitcoin cannot do it on its own. Altcoins are here to stay, and they have a huge part that they play in the market, and also in the advancement of the industry. So there isn't really any need for altcoiners to begin living in doubt or thinking that the time to give up on altcoins is now.
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Actually, there is a chance Bitcoin dominance rate will reach 90%+ and the most altcoins capitalizations will drop significantly, but it is rather unlikely scenario, so if you believe in altcoins from your portfolio, it is okay to hold them.

Still many readers aren't getting the point of this thread, I'm not just suggesting you go hodl some shitproject wanna be next bitcoin all in the name I said altcoins will always be part of the cryptocommunity. The current altcoins aren't capably of withstanding the future projects that'll be developed so think twice before investing your funds on some random projects out there.

Always long bitcoin but instead of totally shorting altcoins general, trade them. Use them to accumulate more bitcoin
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The major problem here is bitcoin market dominance is at around 67% while the entire altcoins have 33% of the cryptocurrency market capitalization. that shows Bitcoin is on the bull run while altcoins are on the bear market. So the best thing to do is move to bitcoin where people are making profits.
it will change very soon. bitcoin dominance is very slow but getting smaller, so altcoins will soon take their part of the market
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The major problem here is bitcoin market dominance is at around 67% while the entire altcoins have 33% of the cryptocurrency market capitalization. that shows Bitcoin is on the bull run while altcoins are on the bear market. So the best thing to do is move to bitcoin where people are making profits.
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I agree that Bitcoin cannot do alone, however its sharp moves make alts dead nowadays. When I see an increase in BTC, I just stop trading because it makes alts collaps, when I see a decrease in BTC, it still makes alts collapse. It needs to be a bit less volatile and go sideways. If alts do not survive, this crypto market makes no sense to us.
- Although we all know that this market will not be perfect without altcoin, even know that bitcoin will go before then altcoin will follow but the collapse of altcoin really makes us unable to control emotions because every time it collapses, the price goes down too deep, it's not just a decline with only a few percent of the value, it drops to almost half the value, even more. And waiting for the price to return is a long journey for all altcoin holders, and very few can succeed, giving up in the middle of the road is very frequent, patience is not possible when bitcoin shows up
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I agree that Bitcoin cannot do alone, however its sharp moves make alts dead nowadays. When I see an increase in BTC, I just stop trading because it makes alts collaps, when I see a decrease in BTC, it still makes alts collapse. It needs to be a bit less volatile and go sideways. If alts do not survive, this crypto market makes no sense to us.
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The altcoin industry have lost some big percentage of patronizers due to the poor performance of the market in the recent months, this have cause so many enthusiasts to lose interest in altcoins in general thinking the cryptocurrency industry can do with them. There's no denied the industry can do without most of the present altcoins but cryptocurrency can't can't survive without altcoins been present in general. No disrespect to Bitcoin as it started the journey but the industry have grown beyond bitcoin.

The achievement and development ethereum as a blockchain has contributed for the industry, if the industry had just bitcoin it wouldn't had recorded such developments. We can't do without altcoins, they have become a part of the industry. The sooner we realized that  the better the industry become. Don't misunderstand this post, I'm not advising against investing in bitcoin or encouraging investing in the present altcoins although, all I'm trying to say is, if you think the altcoin industry is going into exile, think again.

The altcoin industry is only going through a phase which won't kill it and as what doesn't kill you only make you stronger, the altcoin market will come out stronger as the good will be separated from the bad projects although bitcoin will always be a household name. Invests wisely and don't forget the best of the best altcoins are yet to be developed, the current ones I consider them to be just test dummies, preparing the way for future altcoins.

What's your take on this, do you think the industry can survive without altcoins that's just bitcoin been the only currency in the space.

yes, you really right that the market will not be able to develop only thanks to bitcoin, and of those coins that are now on the market, only a few will remain , this market still needs time for development
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