Altcoins price can be manipulate? - page 2.

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Quote from: iluvpie60 on May 15, 2017, 11:16:20 AM

Altcoins are manipulated all the time. Whales dump the coins and it causes panic and bots to sell. Pricr goes down by like 15percent and whales buy back in. Repeat 3 times a day. Thats what they do.

Any body with a few thousand bucks can manipulate a coin price. Look at round the last few days.

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Quote from: MirkoIta on April 24, 2017, 07:33:37 AM

Quote from: dihari on April 24, 2017, 07:28:22 AM

Is it true, Altcoins price can be manipulate?
I see so many peoples in any Ann thread of altcoins ask for pump and dump. I just don't understand, is this how cryptocurrencies works? While forex trading market move by good news or bad news in around the world.
If Dev or big holders can easy manipulate the price of some altcoins, I think it's not interesting anymore.

At this point a lot of altcoins have tiny marketcaps and someone holding most of the supply can easily manipulate small markets,especially on the smaller exchanges.

Agree with you sir, really I am. Today I trade on local altcoin broker and I see same with your post. The price never same with market even sometimes very high or low gap. Easy way manipulate the market with supply and demand, just hold extra fund and play with the small trader. I try to cheat them with a small fund, sometimes win sometimes loss. I think that's a robotic alt to manipulate price but I never give up to cheat with them just for fun. This post makes me happy, thank you very much.

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Altcoins are manipulated all the time. Whales dump the coins and it causes panic and bots to sell. Pricr goes down by like 15percent and whales buy back in. Repeat 3 times a day. Thats what they do.

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I can't decide if lack of regulations are good or bad for Crypto.. If you take an example few rich whales can do whatever they like, every kind of forbidden actions and they have full control. If you are lucky you can get small share for yourself. On the other way if government creates regulations they will open door for Wall St. takeover. Cry

What do we really want?

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Easily if you have enough money. If you have the 24 hour volume of a coin, you can just buy coins with all that money and the price will rise a lot! But you might not sell at that high price, because there will be no buyers, but it can definitely be manipulated.

If you wanted to crash a specific coin, you could SPEND money and buy as much coins as you can and then sell them at a very low rate, so it would fluctuate a lot. You would lose money, but you would manipulate the price.

The higher the market cap, the more you need to actually manipulate the price though. So for example, you won't easily manipulate Bitcoin. But you will easily manipulate a coin that is ranked 200+ on coinmarketcap, due to low volume.

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for me it can be manipulated it is like stocks hoarding by some stocks holder or businessman they hoard the stocks so the demand is high and the price will go up because of the limited stock these is the time they release the stocks with the higher price.

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Since we see more investors coming into bitcoin it is not possible to manipulate the price of bitcoin like we used to see and so these pump groups have targeted alt coin and so is the reason we are seeing some big rallies in the alt coin sector and we could see more price manipulation in the future and make the most in these sort of markets.

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Quote from: chineseprancing on May 13, 2017, 04:58:12 PM

I think no, because if the price of other altcoins were manipulated they had a tendency that the balance of all other altcoins were broken in the market. They had a possibility that some other altcoins were die due to not fair value of other altcoins.

The price of altcoin is really possible to manipulated. Have you ever seen about a short pump to fool the newbies by the pump group? Looks it can be a real evidence, it's easy to manipulate the price of altcoin with fake hype and make more people get FOMO for its coin and try to buy more and more.

Usually, the pumper already stayed on the top to dump the coin.

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Quote from: chineseprancing on May 13, 2017, 04:58:12 PM

I think no, because if the price of other altcoins were manipulated they had a tendency that the balance of all other altcoins were broken in the market. They had a possibility that some other altcoins were die due to not fair value of other altcoins.

Yes, I agree with you the balance of currency in the market was destroy if they can manipulate anyone of other altcoins. Also I think they can't manipulate it because of they want, maybe higher position like government can only do that.

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I think no, because if the price of other altcoins were manipulated they had a tendency that the balance of all other altcoins were broken in the market. They had a possibility that some other altcoins were die due to not fair value of other altcoins.

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Quote from: dihari on April 24, 2017, 07:28:22 AM

Is it true, Altcoins price can be manipulate?
I see so many peoples in any Ann thread of altcoins ask for pump and dump. I just don't understand, is this how cryptocurrencies works? While forex trading market move by good news or bad news in around the world.
If Dev or big holders can easy manipulate the price of some altcoins, I think it's not interesting anymore.

I think the fact that altcoins can be manipulated makes them even more interesting, and it is very profitable for traders. You must be careful about pump traps, though, but if you have a lot of free time you can spend it monitoring the price every minute and sell all of your alts at a perfect time, increasing greatly your primary investment and you can never accomplish something like that with bitcoins.

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Quote from: tiggytomb on April 25, 2017, 07:19:27 AM

Quote from: dihari on April 24, 2017, 07:28:22 AM

Is it true, Altcoins price can be manipulate?
I see so many peoples in any Ann thread of altcoins ask for pump and dump. I just don't understand, is this how cryptocurrencies works? While forex trading market move by good news or bad news in around the world.
If Dev or big holders can easy manipulate the price of some altcoins, I think it's not interesting anymore.

They can be manipulated for sure and you can see this happening every now and again, if you get in and out at the right time you can benefit but for a lot of people when they see a coin rising they may be fooled into investing and this is not good.

Manipulation exists even in fiat and forex trading talk more of a human system that has just been created of recent. If we are to talk about Ann thread, Ann thread was created to get a lot of follower in other to pumb coin prices. If you really want to make it big now then the best thing to do is to find out when pump is about to happen in a particular altcoin and buy early.

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Altcoin can be manipulated since the supply are limited and the majority of Altcoins are launching crowdfunding in able for them to operate the project so it means it requires investors for funds. And most of the Major investors holds a volume of coin that sufficient to manipulate price.

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Quote from: Omega Weapon on May 12, 2017, 09:12:47 PM

Quote from: Ayers on May 10, 2017, 06:46:06 AM

Quote from: gribble on May 10, 2017, 12:55:35 AM

Quote from: CryptoMensch on May 10, 2017, 12:26:44 AM

Yes, alt coins can be manipulated, specially if their daily volume is small. That is why you see sometimes a coin jumping 100%-500% in a day.

Yea, especially the new altcoins and small volume transaction daily, but for the old altcoins that has large of marketcap
will be difficult for be manipulated by bagholder,
the altcoins that can be manipulated are dangerous for investments into there, it can be scam altcoins will be good for choose
the altcoins that has large capitalization marketcap.

new altcoin aren't manipulated thye have no value, and they are simply pumped, because investors at the beginning need to see where there is the bottom with miners dumping, so they let the dump happena nd then try to put a wall, it's different than a coin which is truly manipulated

But that is exactly what manipulation meas if the price does not move organically and instead the price moves because of the tactics of whoever that tries to get some advantage out of it then it means the coins is being manipulated.

hoe can it be manipulated if investors don't know the real value? i don't think you can view both thing in the same category, look different to me, real manipulation appear when you see big wall on both side, which emean that someone want you to dump in that range, but i never see this with a new coins, i just see miners dumping to have quick profit, and investors buying blindly

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Quote from: dihari on April 24, 2017, 07:28:22 AM

Is it true, Altcoins price can be manipulate?
I see so many peoples in any Ann thread of altcoins ask for pump and dump. I just don't understand, is this how cryptocurrencies works? While forex trading market move by good news or bad news in around the world.
If Dev or big holders can easy manipulate the price of some altcoins, I think it's not interesting anymore.

I think it depends on its market scale and the distribution system.

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Yes they can the one who hold a lot of volume of a certain coin can manipulate the price of the coin by putting or offering a small amount with a high price to make them see that the price is already go up in the sell orders and the buy orders will also go up.

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Quote from: Ayers on May 10, 2017, 06:46:06 AM

Quote from: gribble on May 10, 2017, 12:55:35 AM

Quote from: CryptoMensch on May 10, 2017, 12:26:44 AM

Yes, alt coins can be manipulated, specially if their daily volume is small. That is why you see sometimes a coin jumping 100%-500% in a day.

Yea, especially the new altcoins and small volume transaction daily, but for the old altcoins that has large of marketcap
will be difficult for be manipulated by bagholder,
the altcoins that can be manipulated are dangerous for investments into there, it can be scam altcoins will be good for choose
the altcoins that has large capitalization marketcap.

new altcoin aren't manipulated thye have no value, and they are simply pumped, because investors at the beginning need to see where there is the bottom with miners dumping, so they let the dump happena nd then try to put a wall, it's different than a coin which is truly manipulated

But that is exactly what manipulation means if the price does not move organically and instead the price moves because of the tactics of whoever that tries to get some advantage out of it then it means the coins is being manipulated.

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Quote from: gribble on May 10, 2017, 12:55:35 AM

Quote from: CryptoMensch on May 10, 2017, 12:26:44 AM

Yes, alt coins can be manipulated, specially if their daily volume is small. That is why you see sometimes a coin jumping 100%-500% in a day.

Yea, especially the new altcoins and small volume transaction daily, but for the old altcoins that has large of marketcap
will be difficult for be manipulated by bagholder,
the altcoins that can be manipulated are dangerous for investments into there, it can be scam altcoins will be good for choose
the altcoins that has large capitalization marketcap.

new altcoin aren't manipulated thye have no value, and they are simply pumped, because investors at the beginning need to see where there is the bottom with miners dumping, so they let the dump happen and then try to put a wall, it's different than a coin which is truly manipulated

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Quote from: chineseprancing on May 10, 2017, 06:20:49 AM

I strongly disagree that Altcoins price can be manipulate, because fluctuation of coins in the market were depend to the increasing and decreasing of other Altcoins.

The number one manipulator of Altcoins price are exchanges, not long time ago you remember when CHinese exchanges were manipulating Bitcoin prices, so if they can do that successfully with Bitcoin with huge liquidity, it takes nothing to move the price of thin market like Altcoins

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