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Quote from: Hazir on May 05, 2017, 05:06:25 PM

Quote from: DarkStar_ on April 19, 2017, 09:07:37 PM

I don't recommend it, but some gambling sites (nitrogensports.eu, cloudbet.com, directbet.eu, sportsbet.io, and some others) don't make you pay a fee when you withdraw, so you could use them. Directbet might not be a bad choice as they kinda advertise it as a service, but I don't think the other sites would be happy if you did it. You might risk getting banned from the sites, or asked to pay the fees that you spent.

Interesting, withdrawal is free but you still you have to pay transaction fee to sent bitcoin so it is only half good. Wink

So if you just want to send bitcoin to someone it will be easier to to just send BTC directly without another service meddling in.

No, most of the bitcoin services (gambling sites, exchanges and web-wallets) are not having the practice of charging withdrawal fees but they will ask us to pay transactions fees or deducting only one fee, it can be for both, example: poloniex.

I am already into using directbet which is very similar to xapo, no fee I need to pay while withdrawing. So, it is not half good, it serves the exact purpose of using a wallet services with zero sending fee.

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Quote from: mattermaster on May 06, 2017, 02:10:25 AM

Torwallet is one among the secure and anonymous bitcoin wallet.
This bitcoin wallet has the same security as xapo uses. Torwallet has many new feature which obviously xapo does not have. No verifucation documents needed almost

Before posting, it is important to read what it says on the OP . Now if you read the Op here you will know that OP is looking for a specific feature on xapo which is sending bitcoins without fees .

Quote from: Anjing Lu on May 05, 2017, 05:36:59 AM

Currently many options we can choose in addition to the xapo, I think coinbase and btc.com is a good choice, all of them safe if we activate the 2FA. for cost delivery is usually around 30 k-75 k

Yes, We might not have that many choices with wallets thats shouldering its users miner fee but there are many other options out there . I don't know if a wallet affects a confirmation time but I usually pay 30K-40K sats on mycelium after that never had any stuck transactions. You can also pay 10K sats and have it accelerated on viabtc .

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Torwallet is one among the secure and anonymous bitcoin wallet.
This bitcoin wallet has the same security as xapo uses. Torwallet has many new feature which obviously xapo does not have. No verifucation documents needed almost

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on April 19, 2017, 09:07:37 PM

I don't recommend it, but some gambling sites (nitrogensports.eu, cloudbet.com, directbet.eu, sportsbet.io, and some others) don't make you pay a fee when you withdraw, so you could use them. Directbet might not be a bad choice as they kinda advertise it as a service, but I don't think the other sites would be happy if you did it. You might risk getting banned from the sites, or asked to pay the fees that you spent.

Interesting, withdrawal is free but you still you have to pay transaction fee to sent bitcoin so it is only half good. Wink

So if you just want to send bitcoin to someone it will be easier to to just send BTC directly without another service meddling in.

It is probably the time to acknowledge that bitcoin fees are too high, there is no wallet which will pay 0.50 USD for your every on-chain TX.

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Quote from: Anjing Lu on May 05, 2017, 05:36:59 AM

Currently many options we can choose in addition to the xapo, I think coinbase and btc.com is a good choice, all of them safe if we activate the 2FA. for cost delivery is usually around 30 k-75 k

These are the last option we can use. Last couple of days I'm also using btc.com. This feature just awesome. Besides this using coinbase, for only that there're sending bitcoin between two coinbase account is free like before. There may alternative of xapo but we should try to understand and consider the fee as it's necessary.

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I don't think there is any wallet that will pay your fees, since recently they have just become so ridiculously high. What I would recommend is you asking your users to make Coinbase accounts just for this, so you could send them payments through Coinbase for a low fee.

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Quote from: Bitcotalk on April 17, 2017, 07:49:13 PM

I heard a few months ago that coinbase do not have any fees of transaction so in my mind it was a best alternative of xapo but now members here are saying that coinbase will charge some fees so I want another alternative to xapo with which I will pay to some micro workers without any fees.
Please recommend me a secure and trusted wallet if there is any existed.

Since you have mentioned the purpose is payment to micro workers why not try microwallets. FaucetHub is the most secure, but they do charge 1.5% fee, like 0.00015 for 0.01, not much.

Epay is free. You can also try Asmoney.

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Currently many options we can choose in addition to the xapo, I think coinbase and btc.com is a good choice, all of them safe if we activate the 2FA. for cost delivery is usually around 30 k-75 k

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Quote from: FLoving on April 29, 2017, 07:38:21 AM

Quote from: pinkflower on April 26, 2017, 04:33:45 AM

Quote from: MadGamer on April 18, 2017, 04:19:51 AM

Indeed Coinbase account is no longer offering paying the network fees unless you are making a transaction with another coinbase user. This changed a month ago along with other modifications which in my opinion make their service the worst. I would like to remind you about the problems they had with the IRS and their new verification process which require live webcam and on top of that, you don't even control your private keys. Go with GreenAddress If you need a web wallet, Electrum for desktop and Mycelium for Android/iOS.

I second the GreenAddress suggestion. But blockchain.info is good enough for small amounts. Youre supposed to use small amounts for webwallets anyway and use an offline wallet to safely store your real BTC savings.

he is not asking for a wallet to send small amounts but he is asking for a place to send any amount no matter smaller or larger but without any fees. For that coinbase was a good choice but that is now not available you can now create a xapo account from your sibling name and can get the permission from him to use that.

Yes Indeed but you can clearly see in the first quote from MadGamer that no reputable wallet which offers that kind of feature exist as of now that's why at the end he suggested a good wallet of course different with what OP asks . Pinkflower just added a few other wallets . Isn't it the the main purpose of quoting? Why are you acting like you're new to this?

Anyways, be careful at choosing online/web wallets there can be some big changes in the future unlike with desktop/android ones .

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Quote from: pinkflower on April 26, 2017, 04:33:45 AM

Quote from: MadGamer on April 18, 2017, 04:19:51 AM

Indeed Coinbase account is no longer offering paying the network fees unless you are making a transaction with another coinbase user. This changed a month ago along with other modifications which in my opinion make their service the worst. I would like to remind you about the problems they had with the IRS and their new verification process which require live webcam and on top of that, you don't even control your private keys. Go with GreenAddress If you need a web wallet, Electrum for desktop and Mycelium for Android/iOS.

I second the GreenAddress suggestion. But blockchain.info is good enough for small amounts. Youre supposed to use small amounts for webwallets anyway and use an offline wallet to safely store your real BTC savings.

he is not asking for a wallet to send small amounts but he is asking for a place to send any amount no matter smaller or larger but without any fees. For that coinbase was a good choice but that is now not available you can now create a xapo account from your sibling name and can get the permission from him to use that.

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Quote from: MadGamer on April 18, 2017, 04:19:51 AM

Indeed Coinbase account is no longer offering paying the network fees unless you are making a transaction with another coinbase user. This changed a month ago along with other modifications which in my opinion make their service the worst. I would like to remind you about the problems they had with the IRS and their new verification process which require live webcam and on top of that, you don't even control your private keys. Go with GreenAddress If you need a web wallet, Electrum for desktop and Mycelium for Android/iOS.

I second the GreenAddress suggestion. But blockchain.info is good enough for small amounts. Youre supposed to use small amounts for webwallets anyway and use an offline wallet to safely store your real BTC savings.

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Quote from: Hanako on April 19, 2017, 07:14:22 AM

Quote from: Wandering Soul~ on April 19, 2017, 01:33:19 AM

Yes it is true, both xapo and coinbase are now charging fees for external transactions although you shouldn't be choosing a wallet by this factor . I'm guessing that you will be paying for many workers thats why if you want you can reduce the miner fee if you do batch transactions .

yeah your right both coinbase and xapo added fees now its sad for me because i'm both user of his wallet. But now i'm using coins.ph that you can send without paying fees or miners. Coins.ph would take the fees but its suddenly hard to confirm because they our just using small fees 40k sats

You can only send a transcation without fee if its at least .002 btc and If you don't add a fee it might take longer .
As far as I know, coins.ph is exclusively for filipino residents, I doubt OP will get himself verified and use its full features although it also has its service to other countries on southeast asia like: Malaysia: https://coins.my and Thailand: https://coins.co.th/

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Yeah right, today I've been several times sent the bitcoin through coinbase and they charge, I noticed the fee is 38k. all web wallets charging 38k fees, it does not matter that important transactions can be faster.

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on April 19, 2017, 09:07:37 PM

I don't recommend it, but some gambling sites (nitrogensports.eu, cloudbet.com, directbet.eu, sportsbet.io, and some others) don't make you pay a fee when you withdraw, so you could use them. Directbet might not be a bad choice as they kinda advertise it as a service, but I don't think the other sites would be happy if you did it. You might risk getting banned from the sites, or asked to pay the fees that you spent.

Their withdrawals are pretty quick as well, and it's unlikely that they would ban you in most situations as long as you don't completely screw them over by doing loads of dust payments.

Basically, that just shows that the only way to avoid fees is by exploiting services that probably don't want to do it for you. You'd be better off just paying the miner fees like you're supposed to instead of trying to do that. If you want to minimise them though, you can send batch transactions with Electrum to multiple people at once and avoid receiving many dust inputs so that your transaction size won't be too high.

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I don't recommend it, but some gambling sites (nitrogensports.eu, cloudbet.com, directbet.eu, sportsbet.io, and some others) don't make you pay a fee when you withdraw, so you could use them. Directbet might not be a bad choice as they kinda advertise it as a service, but I don't think the other sites would be happy if you did it. You might risk getting banned from the sites, or asked to pay the fees that you spent.

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i don't think we will have alternative of xapo because most of wallet should use fees to make a transaction even to receive bitcoin they also ask some fees, because for get confirmation the transaction should give high fees so if the wallet service owner not charge some fees, they will bankrupt Cheesy

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I do not think you will find any wallets which do not charge a fee any longer to send out and not transfer in a timely manner. That is impossible now with miners charging over 1mbtc per send now to have it confirm within an hour. Tried it out yesterday with electrum and it took over 5 hours to have my 9mbtc send finally confirm.

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Quote from: Wandering Soul~ on April 19, 2017, 01:33:19 AM

Yes it is true, both xapo and coinbase are now charging fees for external transactions although you shouldn't be choosing a wallet by this factor . I'm guessing that you will be paying for many workers thats why if you want you can reduce the miner fee if you do batch transactions .

yeah your right both coinbase and xapo added fees now its sad for me because i'm both user of his wallet. But now i'm using coins.ph that you can send without paying fees or miners. Coins.ph would take the fees but its suddenly hard to confirm because they our just using small fees 40k sats

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Quote from: Bitcotalk on April 17, 2017, 07:49:13 PM

I heard a few months ago that coinbase do not have any fees of transaction so in my mind it was a best alternative of xapo but now members here are saying that coinbase will charge some fees so I want another alternative to xapo with which I will pay to some micro workers without any fees.
Please recommend me a secure and trusted wallet if there is any existed.

Sending btc from coinbase to coinbase remain free iirc. I am not using any of those two wallet you mentioned tho. I know a wallet which does not have any fee (for minimal fee) on sending to any wallet. It's coins.ph I don't know if it will work or if it is even available/accessible in other countries so you have to check it yourself if it will work for you. It's basically an exchange wallet here in the Philippines but it also works fine as just using it as a simple wallet.

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