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Quote from: Slow death on October 29, 2022, 02:52:36 AM

i also tell people not to be putting money in altcoins, maybe some might even be worth it, but in the long run altcoins just disappeared or will drop in price a lot, that's why I say just invest in bitcoin, but from what I see many people are still chasing 100X profits, that 100X profit greed that makes people go buy altcoins

Yep. People seam to forget where this 100x comes from. That alcoin market is not a place where wealth magically show up. If you made 100x means that, on average, 100 people with similar investment went bust loosing whole investment. There is no way to bypass that math. This is a zero sum game. When you earn, others lose. Or even negative sum game, because exchange take its fee, arbitrage traders take their fee, market makers takes their fee + insiders, scammers, rug-pullers etc.

So even if its a zero sum game (which is not, its far worse), who is the "wealth/money donor" if even newbies can invest in altcoin? "I won't advice newbies to stay away from altcoin investment" as YellowSwap said.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 28, 2022, 10:49:04 AM

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 23, 2022, 11:28:57 AM

Focusing on the top 300 coins list will certainly be very confusing because it will take a long time to find potential coins. Maybe you can focus on the top 50-100 list of potential coins so that you will have enough time to analyze them one by one and find the right coin for your investment. Or maybe you can look for cheap coins on the top 100 coins list. But don't forget to invest in bitcoin if you want to get big profits in the future and invest in altcoins only for the short term.

He didn't say that we need to invest all of them but then we need to analyse them before we invest. Maybe there is some tools online which we can use to filter out the key functions that we mainly look for. A few of those factors are already mentioned by the OP. That should eliminate most of those coins in the top 300.

Coins higher than on top 300 might not be a gem anymore because they are done doing a great increase with their value and that is the reason why the climb up the ranks. There's only less to expect on them. Hidden gems can also come on those newly released coins and they are better since we can get them cheap and the private sale but btc must be our base since it is more guaranteed than the rest.

Indeed he didn't say that and I just said focusing on the top 300 would be very confusing Grin

Although we can use online tools to find them, it will still not be easy because we have to analyze the coins one by one. But even so, it's still worth doing, as our goal is to find hidden gems.

And I agree that hidden gems can come in newly released coins or tokens because it could be that the new project has something different and has to be the next best. But still, bitcoin will be the best among others.

this reminds me that 2 years ago I spent hours on coinmarketicap researching altcoins that had the potential to increase their prices a lot, but because I spent a lot of time on this search I got tired, so I started looking on sites that (I don't know if yet there are ) listed new and even old altcoins but only if they had some good news, but there were many pages and it took me a lot of time, so much time that I had to stop and the most stressful thing about it all is that I couldn't even make a profit, I just lost a lot time. with that I keep asking myself if it's worth spending hours analyzing one by one project

Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on October 29, 2022, 02:41:46 AM

I would strongly advice newbies staing far from altcoins. BTC, ETH, BNB and maybe 5 more are worth the research. If you think there are "so many good altcoins" - make a list of 10.

I also tell people not to be putting money in altcoins, maybe some might even be worth it, but in the long run altcoins just disappeared or will drop in price a lot, that's why I say just invest in bitcoin, but from what I see many people are still chasing 100X profits, that 100X profit greed that makes people go buy altcoins

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Quote from: YellowSwap on October 29, 2022, 02:19:36 AM

Bitcoin is the safest investment but altcoins have the highest return, in 2021 a altcoin turns 1500$ to 18,000$ for me, can bitcoin do the same? No of course, I won't advice newbies to stay away from altcoin investment, there are so many good altcoins with high chances of returns if the research is done right.

My friend put 3$ in lottery and won 100 000$. Why trade bitcoin/altcoins if you can gamble your money in lottery? Of cource i'm just kidding here but I want to show that the fact that you turned 1500$ into 18 000$ does not mean its a good advice for everyone. You may just be lucky. One person trade is too small sample to act as evidence supporting the thesis. There are more than 20 000 tokens. 19950 are copy/paste shitcoins made to scam investors only. Most of them will sooner or later go to 0. "can bitcoin do the same? No of course"

I would strongly advice newbies staing far from altcoins. BTC, ETH, BNB and maybe 5 more are worth the research. If you think there are "so many good altcoins" - make a list of 10.

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Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on October 23, 2022, 01:33:18 AM

Quote from: abcde2018 on October 22, 2022, 01:51:11 AM

with higher market caps with lower price and supply

Marketcaps = price * supply so its impossible to find high marketcap coin with low supply and price.

For next bull market i suggest all newbies and intermidiate investors to stay with bitcoin. 99% of altcoins are just pump and dump shames, bitcoin is bitcoin. And bitcoin is growing the fastest during first part of each bull run. So you accumulate btc during bear market, dump to altcoins in the middle of bull cycle when they lift off and outperforming. And top 300 is way to far. Stay with Top 50 CMC if you are not a pro or insider.

Bitcoin is the safest investment but altcoins have the highest return, in 2021 a altcoin turns 1500$ to 18,000$ for me, can bitcoin do the same? No of course, I won't advice newbies to stay away from altcoin investment, there are so many good altcoins with high chances of returns if the research is done right.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on October 28, 2022, 10:51:24 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 28, 2022, 10:49:04 AM

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 23, 2022, 11:28:57 AM

Focusing on the top 300 coins list will certainly be very confusing because it will take a long time to find potential coins. Maybe you can focus on the top 50-100 list of potential coins so that you will have enough time to analyze them one by one and find the right coin for your investment. Or maybe you can look for cheap coins on the top 100 coins list. But don't forget to invest in bitcoin if you want to get big profits in the future and invest in altcoins only for the short term.

He didn't say that we need to invest all of them but then we need to analyse them before we invest. Maybe there is some tools online which we can use to filter out the key functions that we mainly look for. A few of those factors are already mentioned by the OP. That should eliminate most of those coins in the top 300.

Coins higher than on top 300 might not be a gem anymore because they are done doing a great increase with their value and that is the reason why the climb up the ranks. There's only less to expect on them. Hidden gems can also come on those newly released coins and they are better since we can get them cheap and the private sale but btc must be our base since it is more guaranteed than the rest.

Indeed he didn't say that and I just said focusing on the top 300 would be very confusing Grin

Although we can use online tools to find them, it will still not be easy because we have to analyze the coins one by one. But even so, it's still worth doing, as our goal is to find hidden gems.

And I agree that hidden gems can come in newly released coins or tokens because it could be that the new project has something different and has to be the next best. But still, bitcoin will be the best among others.

But for me personally ? i would rather buy Meme coins than to seek for GEM, though I am not a fan of Meme coins but I am not more fan of Gem because this will mostly drive you to losing .

Imagine buying a coin that has very few potential to earn ? or rarely to increase?

Investing must be risky but it will be more risky if we are greedy to look for profit.

Maybe it's better if we want to minimize losses when investing, then our best way should be to invest the capital we have to have the top coins. Btc and eth I think a good idea than us investing the money we have

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 28, 2022, 10:49:04 AM

Quote from: TheGreatPython on October 26, 2022, 09:41:59 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 23, 2022, 11:28:57 AM

Focusing on the top 300 coins list will certainly be very confusing because it will take a long time to find potential coins. Maybe you can focus on the top 50-100 list of potential coins so that you will have enough time to analyze them one by one and find the right coin for your investment. Or maybe you can look for cheap coins on the top 100 coins list. But don't forget to invest in bitcoin if you want to get big profits in the future and invest in altcoins only for the short term.

He didn't say that we need to invest all of them but then we need to analyse them before we invest. Maybe there is some tools online which we can use to filter out the key functions that we mainly look for. A few of those factors are already mentioned by the OP. That should eliminate most of those coins in the top 300.

Coins higher than on top 300 might not be a gem anymore because they are done doing a great increase with their value and that is the reason why the climb up the ranks. There's only less to expect on them. Hidden gems can also come on those newly released coins and they are better since we can get them cheap and the private sale but btc must be our base since it is more guaranteed than the rest.

Indeed he didn't say that and I just said focusing on the top 300 would be very confusing Grin

Although we can use online tools to find them, it will still not be easy because we have to analyze the coins one by one. But even so, it's still worth doing, as our goal is to find hidden gems.

And I agree that hidden gems can come in newly released coins or tokens because it could be that the new project has something different and has to be the next best. But still, bitcoin will be the best among others.

But for me personally ? i would rather buy Meme coins than to seek for GEM, though I am not a fan of Meme coins but I am not more fan of Gem because this will mostly drive you to losing .

Imagine buying a coin that has very few potential to earn ? or rarely to increase?

Investing must be risky but it will be more risky if we are greedy to look for profit.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 27, 2022, 06:56:42 PM

Quote from: abcde2018 on October 22, 2022, 01:51:11 AM

since all of investors, traders focus and believe in bitcoins. that's the all the truth we all know. but we can miss the jems which could give high potential to gain more return than BTC because of that.
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There's nothing wrong here if during the bear market that most of your assets are in high market cap coins like Bitcoin and Ethereum, this is already proven over time or from multiple bear markets and bull markets.
Because most the altcoins are being devasted or being wiped off the market when the bear market starts. But I am not telling all of them, there are some projects that started during bear market and they are doing good. This is difficult to spot, so becareful, higk risk but high reward.

This is why if you want the best of both worlds you need to invest most of your capital in the coins that we know are going to make it to the next bull run and only invest a small amount of your capital in the coins that you think could grow very rapidly, now this has the disadvantage that if you happen to select the right coins then your profits will not as big as if you invested all your capital in them, but it has the advantage that if you happen to make a mistake most of your capital will still be intact.

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Quote from: abcde2018 on October 22, 2022, 01:51:11 AM

since all of investors, traders focus and believe in bitcoins. that's the all the truth we all know. but we can miss the jems which could give high potential to gain more return than BTC because of that. i was thinking about what coins could be the next 50x - 100x gains. i think we should mainly focus on top 300 with higher market caps with lower price and supply. I believe that, we can simply gain more from them and then re invest on BTC which is the trustiest.

Coins that has been established can hardly give you those higher percentage of return unless they turn into some project that the whole industry wants to get their hands on. We're taking about project like polygon that everyone neglected but later regretted as it became the go to token to scale Ethereum network due to her congested network and high transaction fees. When we're looking for coins that can rise then new projects had to be our go to coins and don't be scared of losing money as it's part of the game as an investor.
Bitcoin is for saving with little increase that is assured but altcoins are for high risk investment and with high risk comes high return. You just have to be careful when investing and don't put all your capital as the market is very unpredictable.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on October 26, 2022, 09:41:59 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 23, 2022, 11:28:57 AM

Focusing on the top 300 coins list will certainly be very confusing because it will take a long time to find potential coins. Maybe you can focus on the top 50-100 list of potential coins so that you will have enough time to analyze them one by one and find the right coin for your investment. Or maybe you can look for cheap coins on the top 100 coins list. But don't forget to invest in bitcoin if you want to get big profits in the future and invest in altcoins only for the short term.

He didn't say that we need to invest all of them but then we need to analyse them before we invest. Maybe there is some tools online which we can use to filter out the key functions that we mainly look for. A few of those factors are already mentioned by the OP. That should eliminate most of those coins in the top 300.

Coins higher than on top 300 might not be a gem anymore because they are done doing a great increase with their value and that is the reason why the climb up the ranks. There's only less to expect on them. Hidden gems can also come on those newly released coins and they are better since we can get them cheap and the private sale but btc must be our base since it is more guaranteed than the rest.

Indeed he didn't say that and I just said focusing on the top 300 would be very confusing Grin

Although we can use online tools to find them, it will still not be easy because we have to analyze the coins one by one. But even so, it's still worth doing, as our goal is to find hidden gems.

And I agree that hidden gems can come in newly released coins or tokens because it could be that the new project has something different and has to be the next best. But still, bitcoin will be the best among others.

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Bear market is the right period to identify any worthy project to invest on, but most of these gems or standard projects have a high qualification requirements, it is difficult for small budget investors to participate in such projects. They are mostly for VCs and Institutional investors who can support the projects with big funds.
Am also interested in finding one gem that will give me good profit and raise my financial status, you get the best opportunity from such projects and not the ones who already made x50 x100 in previous bull market. Hopefully, such project will come our way @OP. Wink

Gems are not pump and dump or shitcoins so the risk involved is minimum.

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Quote from: abcde2018 on October 22, 2022, 01:51:11 AM

since all of investors, traders focus and believe in bitcoins. that's the all the truth we all know. but we can miss the jems which could give high potential to gain more return than BTC because of that.
(.....)

There's nothing wrong here if during the bear market that most of your assets are in high market cap coins like Bitcoin and Ethereum, this is already proven over time or from multiple bear markets and bull markets.
Because most the altcoins are being devasted or being wiped off the market when the bear market starts. But I am not telling all of them, there are some projects that started during bear market and they are doing good. This is difficult to spot, so becareful, higk risk but high reward.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 23, 2022, 11:28:57 AM

Focusing on the top 300 coins list will certainly be very confusing because it will take a long time to find potential coins. Maybe you can focus on the top 50-100 list of potential coins so that you will have enough time to analyze them one by one and find the right coin for your investment. Or maybe you can look for cheap coins on the top 100 coins list. But don't forget to invest in bitcoin if you want to get big profits in the future and invest in altcoins only for the short term.

He didn't say that we need to invest all of them but then we need to analyse them before we invest. Maybe there is some tools online which we can use to filter out the key functions that we mainly look for. A few of those factors are already mentioned by the OP. That should eliminate most of those coins in the top 300.

Coins higher than on top 300 might not be a gem anymore because they are done doing a great increase with their value and that is the reason why the climb up the ranks. There's only less to expect on them. Hidden gems can also come on those newly released coins and they are better since we can get them cheap and the private sale but btc must be our base since it is more guaranteed than the rest.

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Quote from: Bazzu on October 25, 2022, 10:20:51 PM

what is certain is that everything is up to you, and the decision is yours, in my opinion? If you want to invest in altcoins, of course you can as long as you invest in quality altcoins,

ranking at least top 20-50? those are the safest and quality coins in market?
buy with caution still, meaning only invest what you can afford to lose.

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but of course investing in altcoins carries a very high risk. because if there is a loss it will drain your money. but if we invest in altcoins and it works, and after that the money is invested in bitcoin, I think it's a good decision.

well, keeping them hold will always be the safest because altcoins has a future but of course not that fast than what bitcoin can be.

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Quote from: Bazzu on October 25, 2022, 10:20:51 PM

what is certain is that everything is up to you, and the decision is yours, in my opinion? If you want to invest in altcoins, of course you can as long as you invest in quality altcoins, but of course investing in altcoins carries a very high risk. because if there is a loss it will drain your money. but if we invest in altcoins and it works, and after that the money is invested in bitcoin, I think it's a good decision.

What if the plan is to invest in Shitcoins or Meme coins to make a easy profit? this isn't even a choice lol, and also quality coins is not for short term increasing because most of them took long time before tasting the profit.
having alter to Bitcoin isn't necessary because bitcoin will always make its way up.

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Quote from: abcde2018 on October 22, 2022, 01:51:11 AM

since all of investors, traders focus and believe in bitcoins.

Not all , because there are some who trust in Altcoins so never mention that all investors are for bitcoin specially those risk taker.

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that's the all the truth we all know.

No its not because I also believe in some altcoins as I already earned from some time.

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but we can miss the jems which could give high potential to gain more return than BTC because of that.

it is GEMS now Jems mate , and correct that this has High potential but this also has the highest risk.

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i was thinking about what coins could be the next 50x - 100x gains. i think we should mainly focus on top 300 with higher market caps with lower price and supply. I believe that, we can simply gain more from them and then re invest on BTC which is the trustiest.

or try some new projects ? or new released coins?

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what is certain is that everything is up to you, and the decision is yours, in my opinion? If you want to invest in altcoins, of course you can as long as you invest in quality altcoins, but of course investing in altcoins carries a very high risk. because if there is a loss it will drain your money. but if we invest in altcoins and it works, and after that the money is invested in bitcoin, I think it's a good decision.

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Quote from: abcde2018 on October 22, 2022, 01:51:11 AM

since all of investors, traders focus and believe in bitcoins. that's the all the truth we all know. but we can miss the jems which could give high potential to gain more return than BTC because of that. i was thinking about what coins could be the next 50x - 100x gains. i think we should mainly focus on top 300 with higher market caps with lower price and supply. I believe that, we can simply gain more from them and then re invest on BTC which is the trustiest.

Look if you are going to invest in coins like that then you can do it but you need to heavily restrict the capital that you use to invest in those coins, after all it is not rare to see people investing all their savings in altcoins they believe had a huge potential and then lose everything, as such most of your money should be invested in the best coins we have in the market and only once you have done that then you can think on investing on those risky coins.

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Quote from: JoyMarsha on October 24, 2022, 05:27:40 AM

Finding the right coin to give you x50 - x100 gains will not be an easy try. The market is not in the good condition to figure out the exact altcoin that will give x50 profits returns. It will be nice if you invest in bitcoin or any other top 20 coins. Because there is always a possibility that top altcoins will skyrocket when the bull run kickoff.

This time around newly created projects should be avoided until the bearish market is over. Let's see the altcoins that survive it before we make our investments

Don't focus on finding a coin that will give you a 50x or 100x profit. It's better to get a little profit but we get it consistently. As you said, it will not be easy to find a coin that gives us such a number. What I'm worried about is that when we focus on looking for coins like that, we'll find coins that actually cost us our money. I think when we get a coin that gives us 50x to 100x profit, it is luck. The market is now in an unstable state, it is very difficult to analyze where the market will move next, if you want to invest then you should invest in a trusted coin.

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Quote from: kapalmabur on October 24, 2022, 07:48:08 AM

Quote from: peter0425 on October 24, 2022, 02:15:09 AM

Quote from: abcde2018 on October 22, 2022, 01:51:11 AM

since all of investors, traders focus and believe in bitcoins. that's the all the truth we all know. but we can miss the jems which could give high potential to gain more return than BTC because of that. i was thinking about what coins could be the next 50x - 100x gains. i think we should mainly focus on top 300 with higher market caps with lower price and supply. I believe that, we can simply gain more from them and then re invest on BTC which is the trustiest.

I don't believe in short term taking profits so I would still choose bitcoin with good stats of proceeds in long term so Maybe looking for Gem isn't part of my literal plans though i am still engaging in cheap coins for a small chance of finding Gem.

but in totality ? i understand that this is truly a one chance of a lifetime tha everyone in crypto is dreaming.

The current conditions are indeed quite difficult to get short-term profits,
we must be able to read the situation and Bitcoin is the right choice for the long term,
besides that it takes time to find gems because it's not that easy

For me, rather than being confused about selecting the altcoin, it is better to invest in Bitcoin and do that for the long term. And I don't know which coins can be the next hidden gems since there are many altcoins in each exchange that can increase higher in the next altcoin season. Perhaps, the top 10 coins can still sustain their position and jump higher than the last ATH, but the other altcoin will have their chance to increase. So be carefully selecting the coin, and don't pick too many altcoins because that can confuse you to choose.

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Quote from: peter0425 on October 24, 2022, 02:15:09 AM

Quote from: abcde2018 on October 22, 2022, 01:51:11 AM

since all of investors, traders focus and believe in bitcoins. that's the all the truth we all know. but we can miss the jems which could give high potential to gain more return than BTC because of that. i was thinking about what coins could be the next 50x - 100x gains. i think we should mainly focus on top 300 with higher market caps with lower price and supply. I believe that, we can simply gain more from them and then re invest on BTC which is the trustiest.

I don't believe in short term taking profits so I would still choose bitcoin with good stats of proceeds in long term so Maybe looking for Gem isn't part of my literal plans though i am still engaging in cheap coins for a small chance of finding Gem.

but in totality ? i understand that this is truly a one chance of a lifetime tha everyone in crypto is dreaming.

The current conditions are indeed quite difficult to get short-term profits,
we must be able to read the situation and Bitcoin is the right choice for the long term,
besides that it takes time to find gems because it's not that easy

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