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March 28, 2024, 12:59:51 PM
#23
Having alts on this forum is not the problem here the problem is having alts and hiding it. It simply means you are faking a second identity here and you probably have a bad intent in mind. If having alts was the problem then most reputable members won't. If you observe closely many members who have alts disclose them openly this makes it impossible to cheat in contests campaigns and even bounties.

Account farming is a different case. Just like the name farming  implies growing for a purpose (probably sale), Account farming simply means creating accounts to gather merits and activity to rank up and then probably auction them for sale. Having an alt account which the forum is aware of is not an offence and also obviously not a case of account farming.
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March 28, 2024, 12:39:13 PM
#22
  • It is allowed to own alts.
  • How many alts will one own and it will become a farm?
  • Is farm accounts without merit sharing, cheating campaigns or contests allowed?

I will need some experience users to give an answer.
I will try to answer as best I can and as simply as possible for you:

1. Each user is allowed to have an alt.

2. This depends on your goal of having multiple alts. If you created more than two accounts just to sign up for a signature campaign - perhaps you are already worth considering as account farming. Some users created a lot of alts in the past to sell to other users - this was before the merit system was introduced, but now I'm not sure if this kind of thing still happens.

3. This may be acceptable [I'm not really sure about my answer] - but rest assured, the more accounts you have, the more likely you are to generate more spam than positive contributions.
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March 28, 2024, 12:31:53 PM
#21
I am not really sure about this but you can probably join signature campaigns with them. If you inform the manager about that alt account which belongs to you, he still may let you join. I don't think there is any rule against this. Or is there?

It is unethical when you don't inform the manager about your alts and join the same campaign with multiple accounts.

Let's say your main is posting in sig camp x.
You go to camp y with your alt and got accepted. (because you won't get accepted in the same campaign with 2 accs)

Then you can post both with your main and your alt and get paid twice. As long as people know what you are doing, there shouldn't be any problems.
such a case is very possible. in fact, it corresponds to what was shown in the case referred to by the OP.
If the alt account ownership is self-published and does not join the same campaign the manager may still be able to accept it and of course, it does not violate the campaign rules.

which becomes a problem when alt account owners become greedy by joining campaigns or contests with many of their accounts. The main goal is of course to get more income. it violates campaign and contest rules.

ownership of an alt account should not be a problem because as we know it is not prohibited on forums. But the greed of users is the problem.
legendary
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March 28, 2024, 12:08:08 PM
#20
loycev also has an alt.
Why me? A much better example would be a Global Moderator and Administrator with alts.

I have 3 or 4 alts

I do not post with them or do signatures with them.

I am not really sure about this but you can probably join signature campaigns with them. If you inform the manager about that alt account which belongs to you, he still may let you join. I don't think there is any rule against this. Or is there?

It is unethical when you don't inform the manager about your alts and join the same campaign with multiple accounts.

Let's say your main is posting in sig camp x.
You go to camp y with your alt and got accepted. (because you won't get accepted in the same campaign with 2 accs)

Then you can post both with your main and your alt and get paid twice. As long as people know what you are doing, there shouldn't be any problems.
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March 28, 2024, 12:02:30 PM
#19
  • It is allowed to own alts.
Yes, it is. Many reputable forum members have alternative accounts for different purposes. So as long as you are not using them for bad practices, you should be good. It's even better if you declare that you have an alt account so that everyone can see how you use the other account.
I don't know why people keep answering the one when it wasn't a question. It was just a statement while the other two are questions. Yet they are scared of giving explicit answers for number 2 and 3.

making them have different identities and hiding from the community that it is you behind those alt.
This is not a crime. In some cases, making the community know you are the person behind the account defeats the purpose of having the alt account.
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March 28, 2024, 10:05:29 AM
#18
loycev also has an alt.
Why me? A much better example would be a Global Moderator and Administrator with alts.

I have 3 or 4 alts

I do not post with them or do signatures with them.
sr. member
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March 28, 2024, 09:31:02 AM
#17
  • It is allowed to own alts.

Yes, it is. Many reputable forum members have alternative accounts for different purposes. So as long as you are not using them for bad practices, you should be good. It's even better if you declare that you have an alt account so that everyone can see how you use the other account.

  • How many alts will one own and it will become a farm?

The term "farming accounts" refers to the act of creating and growing multiple accounts preferably for the purpose of joining multiple signature or bounty campaigns to earn more money than you can earn while having just one account enrolled. So it doesn't refer to the amount but the act being done. You are farming accounts even if you have just one alt that you are growing with your main account and will get it enrolled in a signature campaign later when it's ready.

  • Are farm accounts without merit sharing, cheating campaigns or contests allowed?

You mean alt accounts, right? Yes, you are allowed to have alt accounts if you are not farming them to cheat campaigns or contests making them have different identities and hiding from the community that it is you behind those alt.
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March 28, 2024, 05:53:50 AM
#16
loycev also has an alt.
Why me? A much better example would be a Global Moderator and Administrator with alts.
I guessed because of your high standing on the forum especially with your many tools set and guide While many don't know or remember Theymos has an alt especially since he last use it December 2021 while Hilarious is not well known to some members of the forum especially those who might have little or no knowledge about the forum or haven't noticed it on his profile/forum position.

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March 28, 2024, 05:06:40 AM
#15
It's heroic of you to speak up in my opinion and I won't pretend that I never saw that accusing thread but I just skipped it because it is none of my business and having alts can't be an automatic sin for breaking the rules of the forum. But let those who have the alts limit it and I do not know the reason why anyone would have more than one alt for crying out loud, if they ever had, it could be annoying and suspicious.

I've seen a reputable member of the forum having an alt and even joined campaigns with both accounts without anyone saying a word. "What is good for the goose is good for the gander," everyone is bound under the forum rules.

As for the case of @komisariatku and @PytagoraZ, it was never proven beyond a reasonable doubt as far as I am concerned, and if it is still within the limit of the two, it doesn't call for any attention.
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March 28, 2024, 04:32:49 AM
#14
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  • It is allowed to own alts.
  • How many alts will one own and it will become a farm?
  • Is farm accounts without merit sharing, cheating campaigns or contests allowed?

I will need some experience users to give an answer.
  

I think there's nothing wrong with having different accounts. People may have them for various reasons, and those reasons may be pretty legit. But, of course, participating in contests/challenges with several of your alts at the same time is unfair. Merit sharing between your alts is also a shameful practice.
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March 28, 2024, 04:01:52 AM
#13
According to my understanding, having alt accounts for your personal use is allowed.
What is meant by having alt accounts for personal use. Do people have alt accounts for general or public use? Please clarify...
I think he meant to someone who want to create alt accounts, but he claimed his alts to be a different person e.g. project. Unfortunately I can't find the thread even though I already search the user topics history.

It's basically like this, I want to create a new account for my project named Bitcointalk. If Bitcointalk fails and the project can't repay the investors money, this will make the account received negative feedback. Then the next question will my personal account i.e. Plaguedeath receive a same punishment too? Most users say yes, so if you want to create an alt account regardless with any reason, it's belong to same person and risking the same reputation.
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March 28, 2024, 03:42:11 AM
#12
According to my understanding, having alt accounts for your personal use is allowed.
What is meant by having alt accounts for personal use. Do people have alt accounts for general or public use? Please clarify...

But it is very, very rare that more than four alternative accounts will be created without participating in the same bounty or signature companies and without sending merits to each other. Even if such a thing exists, such a number of posts is simply incredible work, and it is doubtful that a person will create good posts.
Yea, I have read somewhere that a reputable member of this forum said that, if the energy people use to create alts is channelled to one account, the account could be exceptional, can join any signature campaign with high pay.
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March 28, 2024, 03:03:16 AM
#11
loycev also has an alt.
Why me? A much better example would be a Global Moderator and Administrator with alts.
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March 28, 2024, 02:26:37 AM
#10
Why are so many alternative accounts created? There will be no questions about two or three accounts. Work, home, mobile. And often, such accounts do not hide themselves. But it is very, very rare that more than four alternative accounts will be created without participating in the same bounty or signature companies and without sending merits to each other. Even if such a thing exists, such a number of posts is simply incredible work, and it is doubtful that a person will create good posts.
Therefore, it is correct what Timelord2067 says: the greed of people raising farms on the forum leads to a bad ending.
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March 27, 2024, 07:30:11 PM
#9
If you're farming alts don't be surprised if you start getting negative trust feed-backs and negative DT trusts from numerous other users.
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March 27, 2024, 05:19:43 PM
#8
Do you really not know about something like that? You are a hero. Having an alt is something that is allowed and loycev also has an alt. If you want to discuss my past mistakes, you can post them on the reputation board. I've also explained a lot of things there.

If you're posting this for merit or to chase your weekly posting target, then keep going, it's a good effort and good luck
Dude, if you read Op well, you will discover that this post is not about you. I'm sorry about your fate, I don't have the power to save you, I would have.

Cheating contests, sig camps and merit sharing are obviously no good practices but there is one more thing:

People with many alts can create fake discussions, fake debates, support each other’s opinions and affect other people’s opinions that way. This is way worse than abusing sig camps imo.
Wow!
I haven't thought of it from this angle. So, one with alts can create a poll and use their alts to influence the poll result. It is a bad thing and as you mentioned can in some cases be worse than cheating signature campaigns.
legendary
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March 27, 2024, 04:16:27 PM
#7
Cheating contests, sig camps and merit sharing are obviously no good practices but there is one more thing:

People with many alts can create fake discussions, fake debates, support each other’s opinions and affect other people’s opinions that way. This is way worse than abusing sig camps imo.

You don’t have to declare your alts publicly and you can have as many alts as you want. You won’t get into trouble unless you do the unethical stuff I mentioned above.

Sometimes people create alts just to voice their unpopular opinion but they don’t want their main account to be labeled with any negative/neutral trust ratings. That’s a good and ethical reason to create an anonymous alt account.
sr. member
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March 27, 2024, 04:06:17 PM
#6
Do you really not know about something like that? You are a hero. Having an alt is something that is allowed and loycev also has an alt. If you want to discuss my past mistakes, you can post them on the reputation board. I've also explained a lot of things there.

If you're posting this for merit or to chase your weekly posting target, then keep going, it's a good effort and good luck
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March 27, 2024, 04:00:03 PM
#5
It is allowed to own alts.
Yes alt accounts are allowed as long as they are not used to cheat the merit system, signature campaigns and contests.


  • How many alts will one own and it will become a farm?
This is subjective. For me, having three or more accounts is too much and can be considered a farm because it’s obvious you’re creating these accounts for financial gain either to join signature campaigns, collect loans or just good old fashion account selling business.


  • Is farm accounts without merit sharing, cheating campaigns or contests allowed?

Technically, they would be allowed and will be only be given a neutral tag to show that the accounts are connected. But in my experience, account farms usually do something stupid that will cost them their reputation like using AI to make posts, plagiarism or replying themselves in a thread.
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March 27, 2024, 03:08:19 PM
#4
According to my understanding, having alt accounts for your personal use is allowed. And this is acceptable by the community as long as there is no form of abuse, such as merit abuse, bounty or contest cheating, and so on.

Alt account farming is a process of creating and using multiple accounts in a forum to gain an advantage that wouldn't be possible with a single account. This advantage can come in many forms, like using them in forum contests, manipulating polls, or cheating in bounties. Account farming was likely more popular before the merit system, as forum ranks were solely based on activity back then. This ultimately led to the reselling of alt accounts to third parties for participation in signature campaigns.
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