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Topic: Am I the only one who loves BTC but hates the Metaverse idea and the NFTs? - page 2. (Read 704 times)

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I don't find any real usability for this Metaverse: actually I think it will only make people and society dumber and closer to the Idiocracy movie. Spending time online wearing some stupid glasses it's a no no for me. Also the NFTs are a waste of time and money, I wouldn't buy useless digital shoes and buildings. I love BTC and have diamond hands but these 2 things I'm not a fan of and I know I will never be. Society needs to become wiser not dumber. Living in a digital realm sucks, I'm a human being not a stupid machine. Rant over.

Personally I also do not appreciate so much high valuation for NFTs. In reality it appears to :
1) Just a new way to make fast cash. Now that crypto cannot give the returns it gave in its initial years, some people designed a new way to make money with the people having interest in this field. This is why every project it coming up with its NFT.
2) Many researches have claimed that NFT are a way of money laundering. It is not yet proved but there is a possibility for this. I will like to stay away from such things where price is artificially inflated.
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You're not smart enough to use NFT to make money then because my friend is making bank flipping NFTs and they know how bad it is but they see the money in it so they still get into it. Of course it's bad but how can you not understand that some people find value in it and they're willing to pay for it. How come people hate on NFTs when that's basically how Fine Arts operate, they overprice the work and overrate the painter so they can sell the art at a much higher price.
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I don't understand anything about usability either, I don't waste my time and money investing in it and I also don't waste my time and money buying this digital art, I mean something physical that at least I can touch, honestly I don't know how it's possible to have people who spend money on buying these NFT. there are people who are spending millions with this NFTs joke


Well for people who doesn't like arts they have impression like this but for the collectors which see the potential of arts that can be used or be collected by them they find it good to pour their money with so its not surprising that we see many people buying NFT since some of them are their to support the growing industry. I'm split between liking it and doesn't since I'm exploring things which can possibly give me a profit.
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I don't understand anything about usability either, I don't waste my time and money investing in it and I also don't waste my time and money buying this digital art, I mean something physical that at least I can touch, honestly I don't know how it's possible to have people who spend money on buying these NFT. there are people who are spending millions with this NFTs joke
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I don't find any real usability for this Metaverse: actually I think it will only make people and society dumber and closer to the Idiocracy movie. Spending time online wearing some stupid glasses it's a no no for me. Also the NFTs are a waste of time and money, I wouldn't buy useless digital shoes and buildings. I love BTC and have diamond hands but these 2 things I'm not a fan of and I know I will never be. Society needs to become wiser not dumber. Living in a digital realm sucks, I'm a human being not a stupid machine. Rant over.

Well, I guess you're not alone. Though I don't really hate the idea of metaverse and any other form of virtual assets but I'm not also a fan of it. I'm kinda in the middle of It as long as it is a part of the cryptocurrency Innovative steps.
These crazy rich people started the luxurious idea of NFT to buy or to sell expensive digital arts, which I also find it useless. Similar to all the physical collections of several stuff, it's useless.
One of the few main reason why NFT's and metaverse are becoming very popular is because of the hype it creates in the internet and social media world.
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I am not hate Metaverse / NFTS just not really care with it. I mean, people maybe free to choose what thing that can give them profit, like NFTs which i actually don't know why people give it value maybe they have their own reason not like usual coin which developer try to keep their value with updates and implement that use their coins. But i will just ignore it and focus on what i do to make profit.
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Not a total fan of NFTs, but I must admit that NFT games (some of them) offer a great opportunity for people to earn on the side. Other things such as digital paintings, pictures, and digital lands, I'm not a fan of. We can already do that quite easily, and it's as if everything is being converted to NFT just to sell something in a fast manner.

Most NFT projects have no real value, and does not add anything to the crypto space save for sales and other metrics that doesn't define crypto in general.

Me too bud, I am not a total fan of NFT's too but I'd like the feature of this platform that gives great opportunity to the people to earn from it like the NFT games that has a play-to-earn feature. A good thing about it is that the investors are not the only one who would going to earn a profit from it but also their players who just only a player and didn't spend even a single cents to invest in a team so for me it is quite a great help to those players.
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I also feel the same way as you but we are helpless because there are so many people who like metaverse lol...

Until now I have never invested in a metaverse project, my husband and I believe in Bitcoin more than having to bet on concepts that can't actually be applied to the public. I'm not against metaverse I just don't really like those who support metaverse tokens more than bitcoin.

It means you really don't bother to read news or pay attention to what is happening in the crypto world, believe it or not, NFT is taking the crypto world like a storm and you can either join or watch as it erupts.
You said a concept that can not actually applied to the public,
Here are some real cases of NFT from big organizations who by the way have not yet adopt btc but already building a world around NFT for their business:-
>>Alfa Romeo Is Building NFTs Into Latest Hybrid Car

>>Tickets to This Year's Super Bowl Will Come With Souvenir NFTs

>>Disney launches search for NFT manager

>>McDonald’s is jumping into the metaverse.

And many more real-life use cases from giant companies, which is something surprising how they are jumping into nft so quickly, now I see nft from a different perspective.
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Not a total fan of NFTs, but I must admit that NFT games (some of them) offer a great opportunity for people to earn on the side. Other things such as digital paintings, pictures, and digital lands, I'm not a fan of. We can already do that quite easily, and it's as if everything is being converted to NFT just to sell something in a fast manner.

Most NFT projects have no real value, and does not add anything to the crypto space save for sales and other metrics that doesn't define crypto in general.
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I also feel the same way as you but we are helpless because there are so many people who like metaverse lol...

Until now I have never invested in a metaverse project, my husband and I believe in Bitcoin more than having to bet on concepts that can't actually be applied to the public. I'm not against metaverse I just don't really like those who support metaverse tokens more than bitcoin.
I've read people that it's really like betting with the metaverse projects. But we really can't help there. We have types of project that we want to invest and some are just wanting to stay holding bitcoin. There's nothing wrong with any of the choice and as long as you're targeting something to gain in the future through your holdings, that's what others are also thinking about and that's why they get into different forms of projects like Metaverse, Defi and other invest-able projects that's truly bearing higher risk.
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I don't find any real usability for this Metaverse: actually I think it will only make people and society dumber and closer to the Idiocracy movie. Spending time online wearing some stupid glasses it's a no no for me. Also the NFTs are a waste of time and money, I wouldn't buy useless digital shoes and buildings. I love BTC and have diamond hands but these 2 things I'm not a fan of and I know I will never be. Society needs to become wiser not dumber. Living in a digital realm sucks, I'm a human being not a stupid machine. Rant over.
I also feel the same way as you but we are helpless because there are so many people who like metaverse lol...

Until now I have never invested in a metaverse project, my husband and I believe in Bitcoin more than having to bet on concepts that can't actually be applied to the public. I'm not against metaverse I just don't really like those who support metaverse tokens more than bitcoin.
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I don't find any real usability for this Metaverse: actually I think it will only make people and society dumber and closer to the Idiocracy movie. Spending time online wearing some stupid glasses it's a no no for me. Also the NFTs are a waste of time and money, I wouldn't buy useless digital shoes and buildings. I love BTC and have diamond hands but these 2 things I'm not a fan of and I know I will never be. Society needs to become wiser not dumber. Living in a digital realm sucks, I'm a human being not a stupid machine. Rant over.
I am not a fan either but that is where we are headed, and in fact this is nothing new, Second Life has existed for almost two decades and it has very similar concepts to the metaverse and NFT, in which people had a virtual life and could buy and sell virtual property.

In a nutshell they are the very same thing with the difference this time around the experience it seems is going to be way more immersive, and since I think this is something people will actually want there is now way to stop it, even if we do not like it.
legendary
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We need to understand from where all these ideas of NFT and metaverse come from? First, we have the bitcoin and then all the altcoins came into existence and then we have stuff like metaverse and nfts. So if there was no blockchain, no bitcoin and there would be no such innovations. So i think that in a broader perspective everything is linked to bitcoin as a whole.
Not linked to bitcoin or blockchain because before both of this came out the technology is already evolving. We have virtual reality gadgets that is used on video games, movies and videos. The idea of metaverse came because of it but for the nft's?

It started out with the crypto kitties game , a game that exist in the blockchain and uses cryptos as their in game currencies. If no cryptos and blockchain I am not sure if there will be nft's. It is wrong if we put a hate into something that does not harm us. Can we just leave them if we do not like them because they will also wont care for us or to our interest. We like bitcoins and cryptos, nothing else. So, be it.
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I confess I am feeling a little sceptical when it comes to NFTs. Ever since they started getting popular they have come off as a fad to me. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong and they are here to stay. Some people sure are profiting off them.
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My hand is up in the air too OP. I’m not interested in any of that nonsense, I have a few alts but the vast majority of my net worth is in bitcoin. I have no interest in NFT’s or any of that Metaverse nonsense. I know people have done really well out of NFT’s but simply HODLING bitcoin has never failed me, it’s my tried & trusted method of increasing my net worth & I am not about to change that now.
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I don't find any real usability for this Metaverse: actually I think it will only make people and society dumber and closer to the Idiocracy movie. Spending time online wearing some stupid glasses it's a no no for me. Also the NFTs are a waste of time and money, I wouldn't buy useless digital shoes and buildings. I love BTC and have diamond hands but these 2 things I'm not a fan of and I know I will never be. Society needs to become wiser not dumber. Living in a digital realm sucks, I'm a human being not a stupid machine. Rant over.

Of course, just like in any other niches and interests, NFTs and metaverse is for everyone, but not actually for “everyone”. I understand and respect your opinions here.

Call me crazy but I really like to invest something that is “impossible in the minds” of most people, whether if they are into Bitcoin or not. Even in the early days of Bitcoin, I am one of those who are calling it “impossible” and “delusional”, until I’ve regretted it big time not risking my small money into BTC while it was still cheap.

One example in the traditional world is no other than the Moderna vaccine. During it’s early stages, my godfather from the United States who is a medical professional, have invested into Moderna stocks. Although that most of us back then are calling these vaccines “impossible” that it was developed so fast thanks to the combination of the current technology along with science (compare to the previous pandemic where a vaccine takes several years to develop), he saw it as an opportunity and decided to invest some stocks in it. As of this date, Moderna’s value in the stock market rise and he benefited from it.

Now same thing goes to the NFT and metaverse. I consider that this is still in early stages, so whether you like it or not, I have began my venture since last year. Most of the NFTs I’ve bought are from play to earn games like Blankos Block Party, etc., and sold it for profit when the prices and value of each NFT have skyrocketed. I also had collectibles, virtual lands/plots/real estate, etc.

I am aware of the risks so I don’t mind and consider the amount that I’ve invested as “dead money”. So I took that chance, and never repeat the same mistake as I have missed BTC during the early days.
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My major problem with NFTs is how to market them on opensea. I find it difficult to understand how it is been done. I have some NFTs gotten from Airdrop. Am just accumulating them cos NFTs received today might be worth thousands of dollars tomorrow.
In an actual sense, bitcoin remains my best, second by Metaverse


Well marketing is one important factor to sell your NFT on opensea since if you don't have anything to introduce your project well provably buyers will skip what you sell and go to the project where people hype it up. I also have NFT's from airdrop but I don't expect anything on it since mostly the one we got from airdrop has no value.
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NFT is like a property/patent ownership registry.
Wrong.

Since they claim to be decentralized and we know there is no regulations and law enforcement involved, they do NOT register ownership or anything like that, they only create illusion of it.
Any registry on any of these platforms could be duplicated multiple times on the same platform or other platforms. For example those selling "art NFT" can easily sell it more than once to more than one person on one or more token platform and there is absolutely nothing stopping them from doing so.

the idea is that because its a public ledger, it can be used like a copyright timestamp. where a file has a unique id for the exact bytes meaning if 2 items are the same, only one can be 'owned', which is usually the first one seen

if seen being sold on a different ledger claiming to be a property registry, then you take them to court displaying your proof of timestamp ownership preceeds some other person trying to sell something with same hash id.

a standard old fashioned copyright/patent office also does not have law enforcement involved by default. they are just the register, not the law enforcement, they have no authority to chase after people.. taking someone to court is a separate activity done by the owner, not the registry office

of course the flaws are:
1) its like a patent/copyright register.. no one ever said the old fashioned copyright register has the courtroom/punishment attached to it by default, it requires humans to make the connection between a product and a timestamp and ownership proof, and then more human activity to still find the real life human 'thief/counterfeiter' and serving them a court order to appear
in both standard copyright cases and NFT cases.

2) just change one byte of the file, changes the hash. thus not selling the same 'hash'. thus easy to counter the hash log and sell duplicates.
funnily enough, artists are doing this, selling a graphic character with a very slight difference. thus breaking any copyright possible claim of 'similar work'/counterfeit. by validating that altering just the most insignificant detail makes it unique. thus harder to then claim copyright ownership in court because a slightest most insignificant change, is treated as unique work, not similar work in the nft world.

3) it requires watching every market and site offering products(much the same as old fashioned copright), IF you do spot it then it comes into the counterfeit, plagiarism, copyright arena debate in court of how close to the other art is the second piece copying.(then see flaw (2)&(1) for how thats not automatic and not easy either)

4) if there are other copyright ledgers(nft ledger) its then even less easy to spot(3) unless you are watching every ledger and knowing what is associated with the hashes to compare to the one on the ledger you use,(then see flaw (2)&(1) for how thats not automatic and not easy either)


you are right that ledgers cant do much, ledgers are not a court that hand out penalties like prison terms so it does require old fashioned things like human watchers, moderators and real world courts.

you are also right that there can be a bitcoin backed NFT copyright ledger, heck there is already polygon, klaytn and a ethereum copyright ledger. (much like europe, asia, uk and US have separate old fashioned copyright registries) where jurisdictions and courts then having the hassle of proving which one is the true first and true owner (which is not automatic(see flaw (2) and (1))

My major problem with NFTs is how to market them on opensea. I find it difficult to understand how it is been done.

alot of the large news media sensational headline stories, are where funds 'spent' are actually people buying their own art to get some viral news story recognition.(hint, a tactic marykeller can try)
thus not costing anything. the buyer is the seller, the seller is the buyer. so no real cost bar the 'gas'
yes this tactic is not new.

ebay used to have people selling things to themselves to show a ebay 'sold' listing at a high price, to then have them going out to other markets or seen in news media, to then list the product again trying to get others to buy for similar high price using the first 'sold' listing' as the valuator
.. also some of the items are sold to themselves multiple times to show fake volume to get listed higher listing pages.
(most of the news media viral stories, are not idiots buying something expensive, but business minded people shuffling their own funds back to themselves to trigger a fake listed value)


that said, even when ebay was listing things like a UK 50pence piece for £500. not many actually fell into that trick, not many actually paid £500 for something really worth 0.1% of 'sold listed' price, it was usually just a couple people selling to themselves hundreds of times, to make it appear that there is demand and value in the item

yes media used to show many stories about a 50p worth £500 being sold multiple times.. but there were more news stories advertising the headline, than there were victims of the trick


as for others thinking that alot of money has gone through NFT. .. not really
NFT is not something that actually has 'millions of people', its more like thousands of people pretending to be hundreds of millions of people.
(yea dont worry much about the sudden jump of 'unique ethereum addresses created' from ~1m to ~190m in the last 5 years)

if you look at the blocksize of ethereum. its only average blocks are 150kbytes, meaning very few (dozen a block) transactions are happening per block. so its not really that much activity really happening with not that many people actually buying fresh eth to then move it to then buy nft
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My major problem with NFTs is how to market them on opensea. I find it difficult to understand how it is been done. I have some NFTs gotten from Airdrop. Am just accumulating them cos NFTs received today might be worth thousands of dollars tomorrow.
In an actual sense, bitcoin remains my best, second by Metaverse
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I also can't think logically about this metaverse and NFT technology. This technology seems to invite humans to carry out online activities continuously without involving real and healthy physical activities.
On the other hand, this technology is beneficial from a financial point of view and for people who are engaged in the creative industry. Where it can be easier to get money than the previous way.
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