confuses me because if I am putting in the user in pass why do I need to create the .config file. This is the user and pass for the pool account right?
You don't need to create a config file for your bitcoin client if you are going to do mining in pool. 
Topic: Am I wasting my time mining for BitCoins? (Read 15194 times)
Ok the ubuntu instructions say to
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sudo apt-get install python-pyopencl subversion
wget http://iweb.dl.sourceforge.net/project/bitcoin/Bitcoin/bitcoin-0.3.19/bitcoin-0.3.19-linux.tar.gz
tar xvf bitcoin-0.3.19-linux.tar.gz
svn checkout http://svn.json-rpc.org/trunk/python-jsonrpc
cd python-jsonrpc/
sudo python setup.py install
cd ..
mkdir .bitcoin
echo "rpcuser=un" > .bitcoin/bitcoin.conf
echo "rpcpassword=pw" >> .bitcoin/bitcoin.conf
wget --no-check-certificate https://github.com/m0mchil/poclbm/raw/master/BitcoinMiner.cl
wget --no-check-certificate https://github.com/m0mchil/poclbm/raw/master/BitcoinMiner.py
wget --no-check-certificate https://github.com/m0mchil/poclbm/raw/master/poclbm.py
~/bitcoin-0.3.19/bin/64/bitcoin -server&
python poclbm.py -d 0 --user un --pass pw
wget http://iweb.dl.sourceforge.net/project/bitcoin/Bitcoin/bitcoin-0.3.19/bitcoin-0.3.19-linux.tar.gz
tar xvf bitcoin-0.3.19-linux.tar.gz
svn checkout http://svn.json-rpc.org/trunk/python-jsonrpc
cd python-jsonrpc/
sudo python setup.py install
cd ..
mkdir .bitcoin
echo "rpcuser=un" > .bitcoin/bitcoin.conf
echo "rpcpassword=pw" >> .bitcoin/bitcoin.conf
wget --no-check-certificate https://github.com/m0mchil/poclbm/raw/master/BitcoinMiner.cl
wget --no-check-certificate https://github.com/m0mchil/poclbm/raw/master/BitcoinMiner.py
wget --no-check-certificate https://github.com/m0mchil/poclbm/raw/master/poclbm.py
~/bitcoin-0.3.19/bin/64/bitcoin -server&
python poclbm.py -d 0 --user un --pass pw
Forget these instructions. They were only relevant when I thought your system was debian based instead of .rpm. They are for setting up a system to mine by yourself which you don't want to do. You want to join a pool with your card.
but I have already DL and extracted bitcoin-0.3.19-linux.tar.gz so why do Ineed to do it agin, actually did 3.20 but who is counting
You need to run the bitcoin program somewhere, either on this machine or another one to be joined to the network to be able to receive any bitcoins that you make from a pool. You should delete the .bitcoin/bitcoin.conf file
First things first.
cd to the poclbm-mod.03.24.2011/sources/
do python ./poclbm-mod with no options
what devices does it show?
Ok the ubuntu instructions say to
but I have already DL and extracted bitcoin-0.3.19-linux.tar.gz so why do Ineed to do it agin, actually did 3.20 but who is counting
I have a setup .py folder but as i said befor it is in the poclbm-mod.03.24.2011/sources/ folder
and it looks like this code it to make a .bitcoin folder I already have on in my home folder why do I want another? and as I said and asked before have no "bitcoin.conf" so do I need to create one with kwrite and if so what do i put in it?
myusername=un
mypassword=pw
or
rpcuser=myusername
rpcpassword=mypassword
the wged lines seem to be to Dl what I already have so why would I re DL what is already on my drive?
python poclbm.py -d 0 --user un --pass pw
confuses me because if I am putting in the user in pass why do I need to create the .config file. This is the user and pass for the pool account right?
when I try to run "sudo python setup.py install"
it asks me for a password, I put in the pass for my user account. Then it says:
myusername is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
Should I take the "sudo" off? or do I need to run this a root? I am sure I am doing something simple wrong but no clue what?
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sudo apt-get install python-pyopencl subversion
wget http://iweb.dl.sourceforge.net/project/bitcoin/Bitcoin/bitcoin-0.3.19/bitcoin-0.3.19-linux.tar.gz
tar xvf bitcoin-0.3.19-linux.tar.gz
svn checkout http://svn.json-rpc.org/trunk/python-jsonrpc
cd python-jsonrpc/
sudo python setup.py install
cd ..
mkdir .bitcoin
echo "rpcuser=un" > .bitcoin/bitcoin.conf
echo "rpcpassword=pw" >> .bitcoin/bitcoin.conf
wget --no-check-certificate https://github.com/m0mchil/poclbm/raw/master/BitcoinMiner.cl
wget --no-check-certificate https://github.com/m0mchil/poclbm/raw/master/BitcoinMiner.py
wget --no-check-certificate https://github.com/m0mchil/poclbm/raw/master/poclbm.py
~/bitcoin-0.3.19/bin/64/bitcoin -server&
python poclbm.py -d 0 --user un --pass pw
wget http://iweb.dl.sourceforge.net/project/bitcoin/Bitcoin/bitcoin-0.3.19/bitcoin-0.3.19-linux.tar.gz
tar xvf bitcoin-0.3.19-linux.tar.gz
svn checkout http://svn.json-rpc.org/trunk/python-jsonrpc
cd python-jsonrpc/
sudo python setup.py install
cd ..
mkdir .bitcoin
echo "rpcuser=un" > .bitcoin/bitcoin.conf
echo "rpcpassword=pw" >> .bitcoin/bitcoin.conf
wget --no-check-certificate https://github.com/m0mchil/poclbm/raw/master/BitcoinMiner.cl
wget --no-check-certificate https://github.com/m0mchil/poclbm/raw/master/BitcoinMiner.py
wget --no-check-certificate https://github.com/m0mchil/poclbm/raw/master/poclbm.py
~/bitcoin-0.3.19/bin/64/bitcoin -server&
python poclbm.py -d 0 --user un --pass pw
but I have already DL and extracted bitcoin-0.3.19-linux.tar.gz so why do Ineed to do it agin, actually did 3.20 but who is counting
I have a setup .py folder but as i said befor it is in the poclbm-mod.03.24.2011/sources/ folder
and it looks like this code it to make a .bitcoin folder I already have on in my home folder why do I want another? and as I said and asked before have no "bitcoin.conf" so do I need to create one with kwrite and if so what do i put in it?
myusername=un
mypassword=pw
or
rpcuser=myusername
rpcpassword=mypassword
the wged lines seem to be to Dl what I already have so why would I re DL what is already on my drive?
python poclbm.py -d 0 --user un --pass pw
confuses me because if I am putting in the user in pass why do I need to create the .config file. This is the user and pass for the pool account right?
when I try to run "sudo python setup.py install"
it asks me for a password, I put in the pass for my user account. Then it says:
myusername is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
Should I take the "sudo" off? or do I need to run this a root? I am sure I am doing something simple wrong but no clue what?
no "python-pyopenc" package in the repo what is the actual pac name
It looks like this is the package you're looking for:
nvidia-current-cuda-opencl
best one for newcomers IMO is deepbit pool
ok will try that one if I can ever get the pool app launched
no pool app. you need the poclbm miner though (m0mchil)
best one for newcomers IMO is deepbit pool
ok will try that one if I can ever get the pool app launched
best one for newcomers IMO is deepbit pool
no "python-pyopenc" package in the repo what is the actual pac name
Ya but first I need to get the pool app runing
would you all recommend
or some one else?
My pool @ http://deepbit.net of course :) would you all recommend
or some one else?
PCLinuxOS no ver number it is a rolling distro
I've never even heard of that one in all my time with Linux, but there are a lot of different distributions.
It looks like it's debian based like Ubuntu.
If you are familiar with the synaptic management tool try searching for python-pyopencl.
Here are instructions for ubuntu. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/easy-ubuntu-python-opencl-mining-setup-2636
If PCLinuxOS is debian based, using current packages, and hasn't changed the package names, those instructions could work.
Be aware that your card is quite old. I had a GTS 250 and was only getting about 2.5 Cents a day running at 30 Mh/s. It looks like your card will get in the 20-25 Mh/s range.
Not debian it uses RPMs but it does use synaptec
Ya but first I need to get the pool app runing
would you all recommend
http://www.bitcoinpool.com/
or
http://mining.bitcoin.cz/
or some one else?
would you all recommend
http://www.bitcoinpool.com/
or
http://mining.bitcoin.cz/
or some one else?
PCLinuxOS no ver number it is a rolling distro
I've never even heard of that one in all my time with Linux, but there are a lot of different distributions.
It looks like it's debian based like Ubuntu.
If you are familiar with the synaptic management tool try searching for python-pyopencl.
Here are instructions for ubuntu. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/easy-ubuntu-python-opencl-mining-setup-2636
If PCLinuxOS is debian based, using current packages, and hasn't changed the package names, those instructions could work.
Be aware that your card is quite old. I had a GTS 250 and was only getting about 2.5 Cents a day running at 30 Mh/s. It looks like your card will get in the 20-25 Mh/s range.
I would have offered remote assistance, except I am not familiar with linux 
I could read up and help you another time maybe.
For pooling, you gotta sign up at the pool's website
I could read up and help you another time maybe.For pooling, you gotta sign up at the pool's website
PCLinuxOS no ver number it is a rolling distro
What version of linux are you running first of all?
I think most people here are on Ubuntu 10.10.
I think most people here are on Ubuntu 10.10.
why not the mod?
have DL this one
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Poclbm-mod
This is mod version, you'd better use poclbm or poclbm-gui, but not the poclbm-mod.https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Poclbm-mod
This is the GUI version:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gui-mining-updated-dec-3-with-7970-bugfix-also-supports-stratum-3878
This is original version:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/python-opencl-bitcoin-miner-1334
Do I just open terminal and say ./setup.py
or am I missing something?
Sorry, but i'm not the linux user. I think that people in those threads will help you with using python. or am I missing something?
have DL this one
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Poclbm-mod
in the "binaries-win32" folder I see a bunch of .pyd files
in the "source" folder I see a 3 . py files setup.py, bitcoiminer.py, and poclbm-mod.py
I am guessing these are the ones I want, but I have no clue how to run them I search for "python interpreter" in my repo and supposedly already have one installed I think? libpython2.6-devel and Python Imaging Library version 1.1.7 but not sure is that what I need?
Do I just open terminal and say ./setup.py
or am I missing something?
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Poclbm-mod
in the "binaries-win32" folder I see a bunch of .pyd files
in the "source" folder I see a 3 . py files setup.py, bitcoiminer.py, and poclbm-mod.py
I am guessing these are the ones I want, but I have no clue how to run them I search for "python interpreter" in my repo and supposedly already have one installed I think? libpython2.6-devel and Python Imaging Library version 1.1.7 but not sure is that what I need?
Do I just open terminal and say ./setup.py
or am I missing something?
regarding poclbm am seeing .exe files when I DL it yet it alks about 3 Linux distros so confused is there a Linux ver some where?
It's a python program with source included. You can just run it with a python interpreter if you have one installed (with it's dependencies).If you don't see .py files inside, download it from github.
Also you'll need appropriate drivers for your video card and ATI Stream SDK v2.1-2.3, YMMV.
regarding poclbm am seeing .exe files when I DL it yet it alks about 3 Linux distros so confused is there a Linux ver some where?
1) wrong assuming, you must read this post
Grrr. I should stop assuming "newbie" means Windows user. Sorry about that.
2) mining client may used with standard bitcoin client without any problem
Sure, that's also true. I've seen some people getting confused while switching from the generation option on the client to a pool server and wanted to clarify. Was without success I guess...
I am actually on Linux not Windows.
I have downloaded DiabloMiner from
I would recommend using poclbm miner, it's the best and most feature-rich at this moment.I have downloaded DiabloMiner from
Remember to set rpcuser and rpcpassword in your ~/.bitcoin/bitcoin.conf
before starting bitcoind or bitcoin --daemon
But I have no bitcoin.conf file to add it to in the .bitcoin file in my user home dir?
You don't need bitcoin.conf if you are mining in pool. Use your pool's login and password.before starting bitcoind or bitcoin --daemon
But I have no bitcoin.conf file to add it to in the .bitcoin file in my user home dir?
I am actually on Linux not Windows.
I have downloaded DiabloMiner from
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/DiabloMiner
But I apparently need a user and pass
usage: DiabloMiner -u myuser -p mypassword [args]
-D,--devices devices to enable
-d,--debug enable extra debug output
-f,--fps target execution timing
-g,--getwork seconds between getwork refresh
-h,--help this help
-l,--url bitcoin host url
-o,--host bitcoin host IP
-p,--pass bitcoin host password
-r,--port bitcoin host port
-u,--user bitcoin host username
-w,--worksize override worksize
-x,--proxy optional proxy settings IP:PORT<:username:password>
Remember to set rpcuser and rpcpassword in your ~/.bitcoin/bitcoin.conf
before starting bitcoind or bitcoin --daemon
But I have no bitcoin.conf file to add it to in the .bitcoin file in my user home dir?
I have downloaded DiabloMiner from
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/DiabloMiner
But I apparently need a user and pass
usage: DiabloMiner -u myuser -p mypassword [args]
-D,--devices
-d,--debug enable extra debug output
-f,--fps
-g,--getwork
-h,--help this help
-l,--url
-o,--host
-p,--pass
-r,--port
-u,--user
-w,--worksize
-x,--proxy
Remember to set rpcuser and rpcpassword in your ~/.bitcoin/bitcoin.conf
before starting bitcoind or bitcoin --daemon
But I have no bitcoin.conf file to add it to in the .bitcoin file in my user home dir?
I'm assuming you're on Windows. I'm not a Windows user but the rumor is, Windows frontend for GPU miners is the easiest way to start:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gui-mining-updated-dec-3-with-7970-bugfix-also-supports-stratum-3878
I should remind you, the miner will connect to the pool server and not your local client. So, find a pool and join. Configuration options are on their respective front pages. Here are examples:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gui-mining-updated-dec-3-with-7970-bugfix-also-supports-stratum-3878
I should remind you, the miner will connect to the pool server and not your local client. So, find a pool and join. Configuration options are on their respective front pages. Here are examples:
1) wrong assuming, you must read this post
2) mining client may used with standard bitcoin client without any problem
I'm assuming you're on Windows. I'm not a Windows user but the rumor is, Windows frontend for GPU miners is the easiest way to start:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gui-mining-updated-dec-3-with-7970-bugfix-also-supports-stratum-3878
I should remind you, the miner will connect to the pool server and not your local client. So, find a pool and join. Configuration options are on their respective front pages. Here are examples:
http://mining.bitcoin.cz/
http://deepbit.net/
There are other pools.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gui-mining-updated-dec-3-with-7970-bugfix-also-supports-stratum-3878
I should remind you, the miner will connect to the pool server and not your local client. So, find a pool and join. Configuration options are on their respective front pages. Here are examples:
http://mining.bitcoin.cz/
http://deepbit.net/
There are other pools.
Okay, just a heads up. The "Generate Coins" button should honestly be removed from the bitcoin wallet. The amount of time it would take to actually generate a coin is a complete waste of electricity.
There are many programs all over the mining catagory in this forum. The one I am currently using is:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gui-mining-updated-dec-3-with-7970-bugfix-also-supports-stratum-3878
Although, it may not be the best for you or your most preferenced. There are others you should experiment with.
EDIT: They beat me to it. Read the 2 posts above me, they seem to be more helpful
There are many programs all over the mining catagory in this forum. The one I am currently using is:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gui-mining-updated-dec-3-with-7970-bugfix-also-supports-stratum-3878
Although, it may not be the best for you or your most preferenced. There are others you should experiment with.
EDIT: They beat me to it. Read the 2 posts above me, they seem to be more helpful
How do I make sure it is using my GPU in stead of my CPU? I go in to options but see no setting for that?
GPU mining currently supported only trough special mining clients, not bitcoin client. You should:
1) Identify you GPU (nvidia/ati, with support OpenCL/CUDA or not)
2) Download mining client
3) Read manual or readme how configure this client and then properly setup it.
Theres is a several mining clients on forum.
m0mchil's GPU miner
jgarzik's CPU miner
ufasoft's SSE2 miner
Diablo's GPU miner
And if you decided join to pool:
1) Some bitcoin mining clients download page
2) Configuration command strings
I am using the generate coins button on the wallet if that is not what I should be using what program should I get for my Linux box and where from?
Also
Nvidia 8800GTX is my card but not seeing that in the list?
Also
Nvidia 8800GTX is my card but not seeing that in the list?
Seems like you have some reading to do. There are a few miners around, it's up to you which one you will want to use. Just check the following threads for information and instructions:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/python-opencl-bitcoin-miner-1334
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/diablominer-gpu-miner-1721
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rpc-miners-cpu4waycudaopencl-2444
I am using the generate coins button on the wallet if that is not what I should be using what program should I get for my Linux box and where from?
Also
Nvidia 8800GTX is my card but not seeing that in the list?
Also
Nvidia 8800GTX is my card but not seeing that in the list?
Are you using a bitcoin miner program?
Or are you hitting the "Generate Coins" button in the BitCoin Wallet program
Or are you hitting the "Generate Coins" button in the BitCoin Wallet program
How do I make sure it is using my GPU in stead of my CPU? I go in to options but see no setting for that?
I mean will only a killer 12 core with 4 or 5 high end GPU cards all working together generate coins if it is doing nothing else?
The CPU power doesn't make any difference if you have a good GPU. It is the GPU that you should be using for mining since CPUs are MUCH slower; most people don't even bother to use their CPUs.
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Or are the problems scaled so every one has a more fair chance of making a coin?
Do I need a 10K plus system or an array of systems to really have a shot at ever making a BitCoin?
So 50 are made every 10 min, but honestly what are the odds I will ever get one?
Do I need a 10K plus system or an array of systems to really have a shot at ever making a BitCoin?
So 50 are made every 10 min, but honestly what are the odds I will ever get one?
First you find out the hashrate of your GPU (go to https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison) - then use bitcoin calculator to check how long it is going to take to mine coins with your hashrate.
I hope this helps.
Ok sounds like I should join a pool.
But how would I do that?
Right now I am a real newbi, just downloaded the app to my Linux box. For the most part a few of my stems here are on 24/7 so figured what the heck why not run it. But no real point if I will never get any coins. I happy to work with others, like I said they are always on systems.
But how would I do that?
Right now I am a real newbi, just downloaded the app to my Linux box. For the most part a few of my stems here are on 24/7 so figured what the heck why not run it. But no real point if I will never get any coins. I happy to work with others, like I said they are always on systems.
Are you solo mining, or operating in a pool? Solo mining (from what i've read and tried myself) only really works if you have a high end pc, and it's still a gamble.
By mining in a pool (or community), you mine a block with other people and get paid for the amount of work your computer did.
By mining in a pool (or community), you mine a block with other people and get paid for the amount of work your computer did.
I do not know if this has been asked before. But, I am wondering what it really takes to actually make a coin?
I have some systems that are on 24/7 any ways so thought I would give mining a try, but am wonde4ring if I am wasting my time?
I mean will only a killer 12 core with 4 or 5 high end GPU cards all working together generate coins if it is doing nothing else?
Or are the problems scaled so every one has a more fair chance of making a coin?
Do I need a 10K plus system or an array of systems to really have a shot at ever making a BitCoin?
So 50 are made every 10 min, but honestly what are the odds I will ever get one?
I have some systems that are on 24/7 any ways so thought I would give mining a try, but am wonde4ring if I am wasting my time?
I mean will only a killer 12 core with 4 or 5 high end GPU cards all working together generate coins if it is doing nothing else?
Or are the problems scaled so every one has a more fair chance of making a coin?
Do I need a 10K plus system or an array of systems to really have a shot at ever making a BitCoin?
So 50 are made every 10 min, but honestly what are the odds I will ever get one?
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