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Quote from: YOSHIE on April 05, 2024, 11:36:11 AM

Elsewhere, on Twitter, I have also seen a Kono slot machine, unfortunately there is no video on how to use it.

I am sure that slot gambling is not only now popular with many gambling users, in the era of AD, slot gambling was already in demand by many fans, As time goes by, with modern technology, of course today's slot machines are much better, but antiques are always sought after by collectors.

This is a very find since most of the slot machine maker is already upgraded to a digital version of slot games which has huge screen while vintage slot machine are full mechanical inside to give random results.

I don’t see this kind of slot machine even in my childhood because slot games is not that popular in my country before because we preferred playing Bingo instead of slots. Looking on the slot machine features shows how detailed the machine before just to attract customers without too many lights like the current slot machine version.

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Quote from: taufik123 on March 31, 2024, 03:36:39 AM

If Online casinos are now using software to program Slot Machines and there may be some manipulation being done, then what about Vintage slot machines like this?

There is nothing cannot be manipulated. It doesn't matter if it is analogy or digital, modern or vintage. Slots can be manipulated by dishonest owners for personal profit. There are two way which I learned that vintage slot machines are manipulated. One way is that they put a plug on the reel stop cog so the stop arm could never land on a particular symbol. Another way is that some of them won't let you win until a certain number of rolls are made.

I do think that these vintage slot machines cannot be manipulated since they are working machines that does not require any electricity to work.

For example, if you compare an electric bike to a vintage old manual bike, then you would notice that the former requires electricity to work; whereas the old bike just needs physical effort for you to move. You can basically apply the same principle in these slot machines- you push the lever and pray that you get matching images for you to win.

I do agree, however, that there is a tendency for manipulation in modern slot machines as these are operated electronically. Though that may be the case, I still think that the government are strict when it comes to gambling; that any sort of manipulation that can increase house edge beyond the allowable rules/law would have their gambling license revoked.

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Quote from: taufik123 on March 31, 2024, 03:36:39 AM

This morning as usual I opened Twitter and found a video of a Vintage Slot Machine that was still working fine.
So amazing when seeing how the mechanism shown in the Vintage slot machine.

Yes, I saw a related slot machine video, an antique, I'm sure if it was sold at auction the slot machine would be priced at a fantastic dollar value, I think it's a rare item that is not used in physical casino houses anymore, maybe it's just in testing whether it's still good, whether it still works well or not, the results you see are certainly impressive and good.

Elsewhere, on Twitter, I have also seen a Kono slot machine, unfortunately there is no video on how to use it.

I am sure that slot gambling is not only now popular with many gambling users, in the era of AD, slot gambling was already in demand by many fans, As time goes by, with modern technology, of course today's slot machines are much better, but antiques are always sought after by collectors.

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Quote from: OgNasty on March 31, 2024, 11:05:17 AM

I remember wanting one of these as a kid. It seemed like they were commonly available back in the day but I can’t say I’ve seen one for sale in many years. Probably some new laws about gambling or something keeping them from being sold to the normal folks. If I recall correctly, in the late 80s you could get a working slot machine like this for around $500.

For what purpose, personal? Though as a kid our preferences are strange that even a thing is not a toy we are still interested on them. I know, maybe this is because of the catchy tune and cute fruit graphics of this machine. Gambling started long time ago and the machine we have here is one of those early machines, so yeah, they are so common back in time. They might only be exclusive to the casino owners but even up to this date, as we all know that gambling is kinda sensitive.

You need permission from the governments first to have and operate one. $500 for this in the past seems expensive but if done or set up correctly, we can still recover our ROI and even make more. Funny that they might only be more expensive now because they are already antique.

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Quote from: famososMuertos on April 02, 2024, 04:10:32 PM

Those old machines are no different in upholding the phrase "the house always wins"

. As with many other things, configuration to new technologies has only served to improve its initial functions.

"The house always wins" is a word that will never disappear even though the transition of manual technology to digital technology, will indeed remain the same.
But I was just fascinated by slot machines and other gambling machines that were designed in the past with limited technology, could make a sophisticated machine that even looked very difficult and complex.

Quote from: SirJohnVonSlotty on April 02, 2024, 09:28:19 PM

Ah, really happy to see this thread.

I'm a huge fan of old school mechanical slot machines and would love to create a collection of them one day. For one of my clients, back in 2021, I've did a blog series where I acquired an old magnetic Beromat and completely restored it, and then documented the whole thing through a series of blog posts.

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The thing about these vintage slot machines is that they are working through magnets only = no electricity at all!

If you're interested in the exact model that I did, as well as the photos of pre-restoration and after restoration, you can check out the blog posts here:

#1. We’ve Got a 70-Year-Old Mechanical Slot Machine!
#2. We disassembled our 70-year-old Slot Machine!
#3. We Restored our 70-year-old Slot Machine!

It was by far one of my favorite marketing stunts.

It seems that it will be a good collection, with engine mechanics that may be different, very complicated and of course it is a memorable Slot Machine.
And it only works by using magnets without any electricity, which would be a valuable antique for a slot machine collector.

Many have been restored without compromising their distinctive shape and series, these can sell for thousands of dollars,
depending on how they are in condition and how old the slot machine is.

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Quote from: Pumared on April 01, 2024, 11:20:49 PM

These machines are the living stereotype of casinos. Having one of these as decoration in a bar or even as a function would be very interesting. Are these functional models still sold? Or will we only get it from collectors?

The market determines what is supposed to be done to those objects, with some collectors preferring for their items to not be modified in any way or form, even if that means the item does not work.

But when it comes to slot machines collectors prefer for the slot machine to actually work, after all they do not want to just take a look at it, what they want is to play with it, however depending on the machine the restoration price could go from a few hundred dollars to a couple thousands, so only collectors with a reasonable level of wealth can afford to restore a slot machine.

Yes, these working casinos would be a good way to make money too. Many people like to bet on these vintages and it wouldn't just be used as decoration. It's interesting to have them in a business, it generates interest and everyone will bet

Though, perhaps there would be a problem with people who are interested in making sure they are not being ripped off by some machine which has been rigged by the house.
Those mechanical slots are arguably easier to rig in favor of the house and have regulators a harder time to prove it. While with electronic machines have software which can be quickly analyzed by someone who knows what they are doing.
I am not against the keeping these machines as collectibles or even using it to gamble in ones home, but trying to capitalize of the nostalgia and the vintage of their style could be a bit troubling in the eyes of some people, in my opinion. There is a good reason provably fairness is a thing in online casinos: it is always better to verify than trusting blindly on a provider.

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Source: https://twitter.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1773627645403537884

That's beautiful, thank you for sharing this video here with us. But I don't understand with such archaic mecanisms how they could be prefectly (or at least reasonably) random? Players could certainly be able to find some loopholes and patterns into these machines. So I don't know if the game was more risky for the house that is to say the owner of the slot machine or for the player at the end. Anyway it should be fun to see, listen and touch such old gambling machines.

All these machines remind us of the past history of gambling now everything is more advanced and digital so slots machines are now controlled by program but I think gambling through all these physical machines is really fun even though I don't have real experience of gambling with all these machines. I can feel that they were really a lot of fun. But looking at it I really don't understand how this mechanism works for slots

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Quote from: wxa7115 on April 01, 2024, 11:33:15 PM

Quote from: Pumared on April 01, 2024, 11:20:49 PM

These machines are the living stereotype of casinos. Having one of these as decoration in a bar or even as a function would be very interesting. Are these functional models still sold? Or will we only get it from collectors?

The market determines what is supposed to be done to those objects, with some collectors preferring for their items to not be modified in any way or form, even if that means the item does not work.

But when it comes to slot machines collectors prefer for the slot machine to actually work, after all they do not want to just take a look at it, what they want is to play with it, however depending on the machine the restoration price could go from a few hundred dollars to a couple thousands, so only collectors with a reasonable level of wealth can afford to restore a slot machine.

Yes, these working casinos would be a good way to make money too. Many people like to bet on these vintages and it wouldn't just be used as decoration. It's interesting to have them in a business, it generates interest and everyone will bet

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Ah, really happy to see this thread.

I'm a huge fan of old school mechanical slot machines and would love to create a collection of them one day. For one of my clients, back in 2021, I've did a blog series where I acquired an old magnetic Beromat and completely restored it, and then documented the whole thing through a series of blog posts.

The thing about these vintage slot machines is that they are working through magnets only = no electricity at all!

If you're interested in the exact model that I did, as well as the photos of pre-restoration and after restoration, you can check out the blog posts here:

#1. We’ve Got a 70-Year-Old Mechanical Slot Machine!
#2. We disassembled our 70-year-old Slot Machine!
#3. We Restored our 70-year-old Slot Machine!

It was by far one of my favorite marketing stunts.

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Quote from: taufik123 on March 31, 2024, 03:36:39 AM

This morning as usual I opened Twitter and found a video of a Vintage Slot Machine that was still working fine.
So amazing when seeing how the mechanism shown in the Vintage slot machine.

This is the work of an amazing machine engineer, who can create such an intricate slot machine.
If Online casinos are now using software to program Slot Machines and there may be some manipulation being done, then what about Vintage slot machines like this?
Whether this Vintage slot machine can also be set to the wishes of the owner, or this will only depend on how lucky we are.

The appreciation for vintage slot machines is about more than just gambling. it's a nod to the artistry and mechanical ingenuity of the past. These machines are marvels of engineering, each with its own set of intricate parts and mechanisms.

And it's understandable to find charm and perhaps a sense of fairness in these vintage machines. They function in a straightforward manner, reliant on the laws of physics and mechanics rather than the opaque algorithms that govern modern slot machines. However, they weren’t built to consistently give out more than they take in Cheesy

But I can agree, the thrill of the possibility of winning, the sound of the gears, and the clink of the coins that make playing these machines a unique experience.

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Quote from: summonerrk on April 02, 2024, 06:51:50 AM

It seems to me that the old slot machines were not set up in favor of the players.
I've heard that many of them actually gave out winnings of less than 15 percent. It seems unfair and insulting to those who decided to try their luck. Perhaps this was one of the casino's strategies to make more money at the expense of the players. I think it's important that slot machines are set up honestly and transparently so that players have an equal chance of winning.

It's good that now many cryptocurrencies provide open source code that can be verified.

Yeah, even at the progress of the slot machines, developers really knows that they have to make something that will give the house the edge but at the same time, people are going to enjoy it and have some fun and will not notice that they are not going to win and only small percentage are going to be given to those who are "lucky". And then it has evolved to create RNG to make it more harder for players to win. But it's good that someone is giving us the glimpse of the inner of this machine and how this vintage slots operates and you will have to admire the investor on coming up with this kind that will continue up to this day.

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Those old machines are no different in upholding the phrase "the house always wins"

. As with many other things, configuration to new technologies has only served to improve its initial functions.

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It seems to me that the old slot machines were not set up in favor of the players.
I've heard that many of them actually gave out winnings of less than 15 percent. It seems unfair and insulting to those who decided to try their luck. Perhaps this was one of the casino's strategies to make more money at the expense of the players. I think it's important that slot machines are set up honestly and transparently so that players have an equal chance of winning.

It's good that now many cryptocurrencies provide open source code that can be verified.

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Keeping the slot machine will probably provide more profits at a later time because the price will be higher because we know that in this world there are many antique lovers and maybe there will be gamblers who can be said to be whales who want to own one because they really like slot games.
I have never seen a slot machine directly, only through pictures on the internet, the existence of slot machines proves that the slot game is one that has been around for a long time and there are still many fans because this is one type of game that is always tempting even though making a profit is not easy but it never reduces gamblers' interest in continuing to play this game.

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Quote from: taufik123 on March 31, 2024, 03:36:39 AM

This morning as usual I opened Twitter and found a video of a Vintage Slot Machine that was still working fine.
So amazing when seeing how the mechanism shown in the Vintage slot machine.

This is the work of an amazing machine engineer, who can create such an intricate slot machine.
If Online casinos are now using software to program Slot Machines and there may be some manipulation being done, then what about Vintage slot machines like this?
Whether this Vintage slot machine can also be set to the wishes of the owner, or this will only depend on how lucky we are.

But having one Vintage Slot machine like this will save me to play slots,
because you don't need to spend any more money and do as much as you like to play it.

Source: https://twitter.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1773627645403537884

Wow, I didn't know if there were slots like this used years ago. How were they ensuring randomness? This is the most interesting question. Btw it is very impressive that someone came up with the idea of a machine that would have some fruits on it that you will roll and get a combination that might bring you a win or lose. The structure of slot games is very entertaining and impressive for the 20th century. But were they back then claiming a fairness of the system? Does anyone know? Do we have any old forum members that have played these mechanical slots? I can't find a good explanatory video about how these slots guarantee the fairness of the result.

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I've never since a vintage slot machine in my life, such a fascinating piece of art! I've never seen one ever since I only gamble online and have never been in a physical casino. So I appreciate you sharing this one haha. Online slot machines nowadays can be programmed with specific odds and payout rates, while for vinatge slots, it operates based on the original design and mechanisms. I think owning one is truly fun! you can play endlessly without spending money on bets. Just watch what will be the outcome when you spin. Ah~ now it makes me wanna own one as well haha!

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i can't say that it can be manipulated or not, but i am sure that the machine has been tested by a mechanic and it has been confirmed that the machine meets casino standards and has gone through various testing phases. so whatever experiments are carried out by gamblers, it is quite difficult to find patterns or manipulate this machine so that they can win and get the jackpot in their own way.

honestly, i'm more interested in playing on a slot machine like that, because the sound and how it spins is more fun and exciting, compared to spinning slots on a cellphone screen.

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Quote from: Pumared on April 01, 2024, 11:20:49 PM

These machines are the living stereotype of casinos. Having one of these as decoration in a bar or even as a function would be very interesting. Are these functional models still sold? Or will we only get it from collectors?

Yes, they are available for sale at different prices, I suppose depending on the model and the degree of repairs needed.

https://www.ebay.com/b/Collectible-Antique-Coin-Slot-Machines/14282/bn_3023785

Some are very cheap, so I imagine they don't work, but this one for example for $10K looks pretty good and I wouldn't be surprised if it still works, but it's not clear from the description.

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Wow amazing share frenn

Those are really vintage I want one too just for a collection I mean and yeah I agree with you it might help us to play slot hahaha. It is rare to see vintage slots nowadays even in the offline casino because I hear the news that big casino like in Macau or Las vegas now had physically machine but with screen on it so it connected to hardware and software just regular we play on online slot.

Im curious about who the old slots worked and what is the odd to winning the game

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Quote from: Pumared on April 01, 2024, 11:20:49 PM

These machines are the living stereotype of casinos. Having one of these as decoration in a bar or even as a function would be very interesting. Are these functional models still sold? Or will we only get it from collectors?

The market determines what is supposed to be done to those objects, with some collectors preferring for their items to not be modified in any way or form, even if that means the item does not work.

But when it comes to slot machines collectors prefer for the slot machine to actually work, after all they do not want to just take a look at it, what they want is to play with it, however depending on the machine the restoration price could go from a few hundred dollars to a couple thousands, so only collectors with a reasonable level of wealth can afford to restore a slot machine.

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