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Quote from: freightjoe on November 22, 2017, 03:07:42 AM

What they had was a strong guy in charge who could make absolutely sure the development of the company's idea followed the vision. They are highly successful becasue of it.

Bitcoin does not have it.

There is a large group of different people all with different ideas on how to carry out the vision, and no-one to ensure a consistent focus. Running a large-scale operation does not work using consensus. Instead it always leads to disagreement and a failure of the project. So it will be with Bitcoin where the recent civil wars with alt coins is only the beginning.

Bitcoin don't need one person to manage it, it is a decentralized currency and we the users who trust it can prove that it has it's worth. Amazon, Tesla and Apple are companies who are offering products and services and bitcoin is not offering anything to it's users, it is an option.

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Quote from: freightjoe on November 22, 2017, 03:07:42 AM

What they had was a strong guy in charge who could make absolutely sure the development of the company's idea followed the vision. They are highly successful becasue of it.

Bitcoin does not have it.

There is a large group of different people all with different ideas on how to carry out the vision, and no-one to ensure a consistent focus. Running a large-scale operation does not work using consensus. Instead it always leads to disagreement and a failure of the project. So it will be with Bitcoin where the recent civil wars with alt coins is only the beginning.

Bitcoin may not have those people to manage it but it's price is still going high. Aside from bitcoin is not offering anything to its owner bitcoin is a decentralized currency that don't need anyone to mange it. All of the people who owns it are the manager of the coin and we are our own CEOs.

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Quote from: Nilda on November 22, 2017, 05:58:32 AM

Bitcoin is not an organization with a CEO and thousands of employees in its payroll. In the future, these people may get have bitcoins as salary and/or incentive.

Bitcoin does not belong to any company or individual, but to be made as payment of salary and incentives I think it is very difficult because the price is always changing and not stable ...

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Quote from: Maveth13 on November 23, 2017, 01:26:54 PM

Did the OP create his account just to hate on bitcoin, then his on the wrong forum. His posts are just full of hate and self-righteousness. If you really understand how being decentralized made bitcoin survive and become successful, then you wouldn't make such stupid arguments.

Another sure sign of a price bubble fuelled by blindness. Everytime a market sees a large number of "investors" blindly promoting how a price can only increase - and where facts and rational analysis is blindly dismissed as "hate" - then everytime we always see this end in a spectacular crash

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Quote from: scottykarate on November 23, 2017, 07:06:36 AM

Quote from: freightjoe on November 23, 2017, 02:06:17 AM

Quote from: scottykarate on November 22, 2017, 03:26:25 PM

Do you understand Bit Torrent? Do you understand Linux? Do you understand decentralization at all?

Yes, yes and yes, but clearly your understanding, Scotty boy, will - at best - be limited to techno issues.

But this is not about technology. This is about economics and social structures where the Bitcoin experiment is already unravelling - Roger Ver is only the beginning of the unravelling, you will see more and more such splintering and more internal civil wars as the techno-types in Bitcoin are increasingly marginalized and the greedy finance types look to cash in on it

There is no unraveling and BTC's only minor threat is Roger and his minions. I do like how you keep referring to me as "Scott boy"... it means you are "stomping your feet" as you claim others do. That brings me great joy because that is all you have.

Mining is the good and the best thing but it is not being happen now because the chance of the bitcoin will help all the people to have the bitcoin, I hope the bitcoin will give me the real price if we will help all the people, I am sure the bitcoin will get the more famous and the bitcoin is now increasing more and more with the high range of the demand so the bitcoin is the most important currency now.

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Quote from: freightjoe on November 22, 2017, 03:07:42 AM

What they had was a strong guy in charge who could make absolutely sure the development of the company's idea followed the vision. They are highly successful becasue of it.

Bitcoin does not have it.

There is a large group of different people all with different ideas on how to carry out the vision, and no-one to ensure a consistent focus. Running a large-scale operation does not work using consensus. Instead it always leads to disagreement and a failure of the project. So it will be with Bitcoin where the recent civil wars with alt coins is only the beginning.

You know that not having any strong leader, could also mean that bitcoin will be stronger than any of those companies. Bitcoin is trying to solve the centralization problem around fiat, and in order to that, it needs to be decentralized. Bitcoin was built for the community and is evolving as a community. If it succeeds the way it is now, it will evolve inside real democracy and team work, and that might end up being it's true strength. If it was centralized it was easy to shut it down. You just needed to go after the one person running it. Since bitcoin doesn't work like that, you can't really shut down it's development, can you?

As for the "wars", you saw what happen with segwit2x. The community proved to be mature enough to solve disagreements for the well being of the network. That was a sign of strength and not weakness.

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Quote from: Maveth13 on November 23, 2017, 01:26:54 PM

Did the OP create his account just to hate on bitcoin, then his on the wrong forum. His posts are just full of hate and self-righteousness. If you really understand how being decentralized made bitcoin survive and become successful, then you wouldn't make such stupid arguments.

Absolutely he did. Fair enough. It is fun to argue with him and also watch others shut him down. He's free to do what he wants and people are free to point out where he's incorrect. He's getting what he wants....stirring the pot. That's what some people do.
I've tried to take it to PM to not clutter up the board, but he won't.

He's just intent on spamming the forum and people can just ignore his threads if they don't like them.

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But the idea of bitcoin, quite the opposite, in decentralization, that one person, or even a group of people could not manage it, that's why it became so popular in the society.

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Quote from: freightjoe on November 23, 2017, 08:36:02 AM

Quote from: scottykarate on November 23, 2017, 07:06:36 AM

Quote from: freightjoe on November 23, 2017, 02:06:17 AM

Quote from: scottykarate on November 22, 2017, 03:26:25 PM

Do you understand Bit Torrent? Do you understand Linux? Do you understand decentralization at all?

Yes, yes and yes, but clearly your understanding, Scotty boy, will - at best - be limited to techno issues.

But this is not about technology. This is about economics and social structures where the Bitcoin experiment is already unravelling - Roger Ver is only the beginning of the unravelling, you will see more and more such splintering and more internal civil wars as the techno-types in Bitcoin are increasingly marginalized and the greedy finance types look to cash in on it

There is no unraveling and BTC's only minor threat is Roger and his minions.

But there you have it - just mention Bitcoin Cash and Roger Ver in here and people fly into a frenzy, clearly unravelling

Not liking Roger Ver and his minions has nothing to do with unraveling. Your use of the term unraveling is clearly an overreach and a difference in the application of that term.
People are passionate in their feelings toward Roger and BCH. That is not unraveling.

People are still doing what they're doing with Bitcoin and your threads and posts are not changing it. Roll Eyes

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Did the OP create his account just to hate on bitcoin, then his on the wrong forum. His posts are just full of hate and self-righteousness. If you really understand how being decentralized made bitcoin survive and become successful, then you wouldn't make such stupid arguments.

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it is precisely the principle of the bitcoin that one is not nobody?

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maybe btc has "that" guy, who wants to stay anonymous, don't you think about it?

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Quote from: freightjoe on November 23, 2017, 08:43:52 AM

Quote from: scottykarate on November 23, 2017, 07:01:30 AM

Quote from: freightjoe on November 23, 2017, 02:06:17 AM

Quote from: scottykarate on November 22, 2017, 03:26:25 PM

Do you understand Bit Torrent? Do you understand Linux? Do you understand decentralization at all?

Yes, yes and yes, but clearly your understanding, Scotty boy, will - at best - be limited to techno issues.

But this is not about technology. This is about economics and social structures where the Bitcoin experiment is already unravelling - Roger Ver is only the beginning of the unravelling, you will see more and more such splintering and more internal civil wars as the techno-types in Bitcoin are increasingly marginalized and the greedy finance types look to cash in on it

Nope, I understand everything just fine. I most clearly understand your lame crusade to spam the board and get your ass handed to you at every turn. Hey, whatever floats your boat and you're so-called limited time that you're not man enough to address.

What exactly is it that I have not provided fact for in terms of Bitcoin's issues? Which facts is that you haven't understood Scotty Boy?

That's it, stomp those feet! Now, answer my question about why you lied about your "limited amount of time" and why you don't pontificate in the altcoin forums as well.

People easily brush aside and counter your so-called facts.

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Quote from: scottykarate on November 23, 2017, 07:01:30 AM

Quote from: freightjoe on November 23, 2017, 02:06:17 AM

Quote from: scottykarate on November 22, 2017, 03:26:25 PM

Do you understand Bit Torrent? Do you understand Linux? Do you understand decentralization at all?

Yes, yes and yes, but clearly your understanding, Scotty boy, will - at best - be limited to techno issues.

But this is not about technology. This is about economics and social structures where the Bitcoin experiment is already unravelling - Roger Ver is only the beginning of the unravelling, you will see more and more such splintering and more internal civil wars as the techno-types in Bitcoin are increasingly marginalized and the greedy finance types look to cash in on it

Nope, I understand everything just fine. I most clearly understand your lame crusade to spam the board and get your ass handed to you at every turn. Hey, whatever floats your boat and you're so-called limited time that you're not man enough to address.

What exactly is it that I have not provided fact for in terms of Bitcoin's issues? Which facts is that you haven't understood Scotty Boy?

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Quote from: scottykarate on November 23, 2017, 07:06:36 AM

Quote from: freightjoe on November 23, 2017, 02:06:17 AM

Quote from: scottykarate on November 22, 2017, 03:26:25 PM

Do you understand Bit Torrent? Do you understand Linux? Do you understand decentralization at all?

Yes, yes and yes, but clearly your understanding, Scotty boy, will - at best - be limited to techno issues.

But this is not about technology. This is about economics and social structures where the Bitcoin experiment is already unravelling - Roger Ver is only the beginning of the unravelling, you will see more and more such splintering and more internal civil wars as the techno-types in Bitcoin are increasingly marginalized and the greedy finance types look to cash in on it

There is no unraveling and BTC's only minor threat is Roger and his minions.

But there you have it - just mention Bitcoin Cash and Roger Ver in here and people fly into a frenzy, clearly unravelling

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Quote from: freightjoe on November 23, 2017, 02:06:17 AM

Quote from: scottykarate on November 22, 2017, 03:26:25 PM

Do you understand Bit Torrent? Do you understand Linux? Do you understand decentralization at all?

Yes, yes and yes, but clearly your understanding, Scotty boy, will - at best - be limited to techno issues.

But this is not about technology. This is about economics and social structures where the Bitcoin experiment is already unravelling - Roger Ver is only the beginning of the unravelling, you will see more and more such splintering and more internal civil wars as the techno-types in Bitcoin are increasingly marginalized and the greedy finance types look to cash in on it

There is no unraveling and BTC's only minor threat is Roger and his minions. I do like how you keep referring to me as "Scott boy"... it means you are "stomping your feet" as you claim others do. That brings me great joy because that is all you have.

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The reason for the establishment of bitcoin for the benefit of having people expressed or move their where it can be transfer or gain without the intervention of any outside parties some of these usually have a success because not just of their ideas but because they know how to influence a huge group of investors by letting them intervene in their business progress through centralized system in which they know the leader will have access or know what is going in his/her business.

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Quote from: freightjoe on November 23, 2017, 02:06:17 AM

Quote from: scottykarate on November 22, 2017, 03:26:25 PM

Do you understand Bit Torrent? Do you understand Linux? Do you understand decentralization at all?

Yes, yes and yes, but clearly your understanding, Scotty boy, will - at best - be limited to techno issues.

But this is not about technology. This is about economics and social structures where the Bitcoin experiment is already unravelling - Roger Ver is only the beginning of the unravelling, you will see more and more such splintering and more internal civil wars as the techno-types in Bitcoin are increasingly marginalized and the greedy finance types look to cash in on it

Nope, I understand everything just fine. I most clearly understand your lame crusade to spam the board and get your ass handed to you at every turn. Hey, whatever floats your boat and you're so-called limited time that you're not man enough to address.

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Clearly you have no intelligent rebuttal and resort to statements like this every time to everyone's post. Anything you post on here is pure rubbish.

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Quote from: scottykarate on November 22, 2017, 03:26:25 PM

Do you understand Bit Torrent? Do you understand Linux? Do you understand decentralization at all?

Yes, yes and yes, but clearly your understanding, Scotty boy, will - at best - be limited to techno issues.

But this is not about technology. This is about economics and social structures where the Bitcoin experiment is already unravelling - Roger Ver is only the beginning of the unravelling, you will see more and more such splintering and more internal civil wars as the techno-types in Bitcoin are increasingly marginalized and the greedy finance types look to cash in on it

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