AmericanPegasus and iamnotback, you were right.

thejaytiesto

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Quote from: Spoetnik on March 06, 2017, 04:06:10 AM

Is he criticizing King Risto's 2nd forum game ?

The idiot douche mental case told me on Polo he made thousands on the last one.
This time he used MEW donated money and hired "staff" to make this one then called it a "powerful adoption asset".
Then when he got called out for it he called his donators FUD'ers then later gave refunds out.

When are you all going to clue in ?

Anything linked to Monero is a massive red-flag.

I've known of risto for a long time now, mainly because he exposes himself so much that everyone in the bitcoin community knows him. From what i've read, he is not a bad buy, but when you get lucky and become rich as hell, you may become a bit delusional.

I think that is his problem. He is unable to admit it was mostly luck how he became rich (right moment, right time). Im sure he never imagined bitcoin would be such an investment that you could become a multimillionaire. Now I think he's lost it a bit and goes around talking about god and hanging around in his castle, but I don't think he is a bad guy.

generalizethis

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Facts are more efficient than fud

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Quote from: generalizethis on March 06, 2017, 06:26:43 AM

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Quote from: Spoetnik on March 06, 2017, 04:06:10 AM

Is he criticizing King Risto's 2nd forum game ?

The idiot douche mental case told me on Polo he made thousands on the last one.
This time he used MEW donated money and hired "staff" to make this one then called it a "powerful adoption asset".
Then when he got called out for it he called his donators FUD'ers then later gave refunds out.

When are you all going to clue in ?

Anything linked to Monero is a massive red-flag.

I heard that there was over 50k XMR (donated by the community for GUI , ring etc) in MEW and then the core (inc. generalizethis) transferred that to the forum 'game' crypto kingdom with out telling anyone.

Now the XMR has gone......no one knows where.....sure ok.

I don't even think those who donated that XMR back in the day for MEW know that this happened.

Ironically when people have asked on progress of ring signatures and GUI they get asked to donate funds or do it themselves. No mention of MEW funds or what David Latapie, Smooth, Risto, Generlizethis, Sadambitcoin, Amercicanpeagusus or any of the other inner circle have done with development funds.

I'm sure Spoetnik will investigate this further. Wink

Wow.

I was never a member of MEW, dumbass. Can't prove the negative, but sputz is more than welcome to find any evidence other than you just making shit up.

Yeah as you guys have scrubbed the member list........

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/monero-economy-workgroup-the-mew-thread-776479

A little birdie has now told me MEW may have had over 100k XMR so well over a million development funds you and your friends have stolen from the monero community. No wonder the GUI took so long.

I'm also a super secret member of the order of Dashtardism. Shhh! Don't tell anyone.

generalizethis

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Facts are more efficient than fud

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Quote from: Spoetnik on March 06, 2017, 04:06:10 AM

Is he criticizing King Risto's 2nd forum game ?

The idiot douche mental case told me on Polo he made thousands on the last one.
This time he used MEW donated money and hired "staff" to make this one then called it a "powerful adoption asset".
Then when he got called out for it he called his donators FUD'ers then later gave refunds out.

When are you all going to clue in ?

Anything linked to Monero is a massive red-flag.

I heard that there was over 50k XMR (donated by the community for GUI , ring etc) in MEW and then the core (inc. generalizethis) transferred that to the forum 'game' crypto kingdom with out telling anyone.

Now the XMR has gone......no one knows where.....sure ok.

I don't even think those who donated that XMR back in the day for MEW know that this happened.

Ironically when people have asked on progress of ring signatures and GUI they get asked to donate funds or do it themselves. No mention of MEW funds or what David Latapie, Smooth, Risto, Generlizethis, Sadambitcoin, Amercicanpeagusus or any of the other inner circle have done with development funds.

I'm sure Spoetnik will investigate this further. Wink

Wow.

I was never a member of MEW, dumbass. Can't prove the negative, but sputz is more than welcome to find any evidence other than you just making shit up.

Spoetnik

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Is he criticizing King Risto's 2nd forum game ?

The idiot douche mental case told me on Polo he made thousands on the last one.
This time he used MEW donated money and hired "staff" to make this one then called it a "powerful adoption asset".
Then when he got called out for it he called his donators FUD'ers then later gave refunds out.

When are you all going to clue in ?

Anything linked to Monero is a massive red-flag.

boomboom

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Quote from: generalizethis on March 05, 2017, 10:23:54 AM

In the past AmericanPegasus and iamnotback have expressed distrust to the centralized nature of the cryptokingdom game, and while I may still disagree as to how to make the game decentralized enough, I do agree that at the very least the D20 has to be provably fair.

The reason by illustration is as follows: the GM's D20 is binding (and this sometimes effects results in the 1000s of XMR), and therefore the GM must be trusted to comply with a fair roll in order for players to feel they've gotten a fair outcome. As can be seen from this exchange https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18073149, assuming that the GM can't be manipulated by his or another's will is a foolish bet.

Some have invested 1000s of Monero into this game, not pocket change and surely not the type of investment you want to put on the whims of any GM--no matter how trusted. My hope is that we learn from this mistake, take a huge leap towards a provably fair outcome system and manage to win over AP and iamnotback and others who've rightfully expressed concerns.

The best outcome for the GM, myself and all the players in the game is to have the most players engaged and confident in the game's mechanisms of chance.

This is the reason I watch CK with interest, but can't invest. stakes are high, decentralisation low

generalizethis

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Facts are more efficient than fud

In the past AmericanPegasus and iamnotback have expressed distrust to the centralized nature of the cryptokingdom game, and while I may still disagree as to how to make the game decentralized enough, I do agree that at the very least the D20 has to be provably fair.

The reason by illustration is as follows: the GM's D20 is binding (and this sometimes effects results in the 1000s of XMR), and therefore the GM must be trusted to comply with a fair roll in order for players to feel they've gotten a fair outcome. As can be seen from this exchange https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18073149, assuming that the GM can't be manipulated by his or another's will is a foolish bet.

Some have invested 1000s of Monero into this game, not pocket change and surely not the type of investment you want to put on the whims of any GM--no matter how trusted. My hope is that we learn from this mistake, take a huge leap towards a provably fair outcome system and manage to win over AP and iamnotback and others who've rightfully expressed concerns.

The best outcome for the GM, myself and all the players in the game is to have the most players engaged and confident in the game's mechanisms of chance.

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