Topic: Monero Economy Workgroup - The MEW Thread (Read 37977 times)

@ dewdeded

MEW is defunct. No willing organizers or leadership existed. Funding was returned to members.

If you think an organization is needed to promote the initiatives identified in your post or others, you will need to create a new one.

Anyone can do this.

What is the current situation, on this pretty important topic?

Are there people actively working (structured and systematic?) on

• solving known issues,
• developing knowledge & insight - to be able to give qualified suggestions and recommendation on the important decisions
• or helping by coordinating & organizing our efforts and activities

on all the upcoming questions, that are related to the huge challenge of developing a self-sustaining, healthy and active ecosystem and economy.

This will be a very, very hard work and involve very complex decision problems. (A task all altcoins failed and Bitcoin still struggles with.) And given the environment, our deviation from the crypto-currency mainstream, the great once in a lifetime opportunity during the next months of becoming a/the leading privacy-related cryptocurrency (by winning and binding users, partners and support) and naturally growing the project with (the classic) network effect, the huge history of failed P2P- or crypto (currency)-projects and other basic (project) management-related finding/observations: it is safe to say: we only have one chance at growing the community. It is something, that will have a huge impact on Moneros future and existence.

We really need good preparation, stamina, a mindset, culture & true conviction inside the community, that Monero can only succeed, if everybody helps, contributes and truly supports the idea of developing of the eco-system and economy, that is needed for the payment-system as (decentralized) P2P-network to exist & operate efficient and reaching a big enough user-base and acceptance-level, so the vision and ideas behind the project become reality. And the intended benefits & purposed improvements (based on the coins features and characteristics) will for the first time ever available to use and benefit from.
(Which will push demand, trust, image of the project and prove it's concept, use cases, significance and justifys it's necessity.)


- help with legal, long-term Monero e-business
- write a list of companies/business contacts over the next weeks, that you could ask for acceptance (write maybe 10 names and think about their potential use cases, then contact 2 or 3 of them, around the 1.0 release)
- we need legal, business cases that cant be realized without Monero
- help newbies, be friendly and open
- don't invest in stupid scams (that pop up, when a coin gains momentum, if u really, really cant help yourself ask someone knowledgeable inside the community about the person)
- tell traders, haters or misinformed persons to GTFO with their complaints/comments about price development, market cap, the next mega great ICO in 2 days
- clearly state in discussions that Monero is not about getting rich-quick or making early adopters happy
- tell people asking about price estimations and potential pumps, that they are looking at the wrong coin and the chance is low
- tell people not to buy Monero to have capital gains on investments (this just creates an unhealthy environment/estimations/feelings), better tell them, if they like the project they should support in any possible way by contributing and if they really want to buy they should research themselves for 1 or 2 months, look at other things, if they still have to much money they can buy like x00$)
- talk and represent Monero as free, open alternative solution, it's a friendly offering complement to Bitcoin (not competitor and different feature-set, different use cases),
emphasize the different code base)
- try to build business cases, infrastructure and services, that doesn't depend on external third-parties like payment providers (Bitpay etc.), its worth the effort und much better long-term, don't wait with bigger projects/ideas, because there is no payment-provider and its to risky/inconvenient this way, do other smaller projects/services instead, we cant relay on payment providers like Bitcoin does (they are create dependencies and centralization, KML/KYC bullshit, they charge expensive fees, they dont share our vision or care about our motivation project, another big problem: they will make the supported coins exchangeable and equal, by offering the same standard featureset like Bitcoin, so Monero would be just another arbitrary coin without most of its real benefits and features, making its usage useless for customers and merchants)
- i think we should friendly apply for addition in privacy-related linux distros like: Tails, Qubes, Kali, Backbox, BlackArch, etc.
- as a P2P-network, I think it is a very good idea to have partnerships with other P2P-networks to support each other and run the other service on ones own host (we could ask people/projects running nodes in TOR like Torservers.net, globaleaks.org, JohnDoe-network, Freenet, owner of Tor2Web-nodes, bitmessage, OpenBazaar etc.
- have understanding and (some) acceptance for normal people outside cryptocurrency scene, who are today doubting all cryptocurrencys and their benefits fully (they may be Monero users in 5 years later)
- from my POV it's a waste of time to discuss with stubborn & self-opinionated people about Cryptocurrency, Bitcoin or Monero, let them talk and smile IHMO
- stay open-minded and informed there are a lot of other new P2P-, Encryption-, OpSec-, Crypto-, Privacy-related projects (on the internet), that are worth checking out (there is trully a real world outside the cryptocurrency scene, heh)




Sorry for bad english and structure and redundancy, because I  sadly have no time to readup everything that happens with Monero.

Funds were returned to the members, if you PM David with an XMR address he should be able to refund you the remaining XMR.

I don't think the vote was even tallied up since no matter what happened, the remaining funds should be returned to the members.

Quicken 210 votes.
First I have seen of this thread in over a year, and the first I have heard of a now expired vote. Was any of this dissolution vote stuff cross-posted on the main Monero thread? I can't see it going back through to January. I only regularly check the main thread and the speculation thread. 
Q

seems I missed the deadline

HELL YES from me, pro forma

my address

Yes, I would say the only meaningful decentralization is actual decentralization. If you have assets in CK, that is not in fact decentralized, so you should expect that the operator has control over them and you are at their mercy.

If you don't want that, hold an asset where you control the private keys.

This is the most disturbing statement I have ever read about CK and it has nothing to do with David.  I am deeply concerned that rpietila as "king" or anyone would have the ability to independently freeze and liquidate assets of a CK player.

Monero prides itself on decentralization and the absence of 3rd party control over assets.  The statement above (which some may say is no longer relevant since David has responded) has caused me to lose some trust in CK.

Please do not call me a troll because I have supported Monero for a long time.

My goal is not to sounds negative. If the problem is technical then a committee should be formed to make decisions on freezing or liquidating funds. That much power should never reside in 1 person.

Figures I missed the development of this thread after digging it up in October.

Anyway,

50 votes for hell yes, please be so kind as to return to:


Although I would have preferred the MEW to renew and continue its effort outside of CK.

Hi
20 votes (I think): hell yes
refund via xmr address


Cheers

Wedgy2k

100 votes Hell Yes.

Funds go to monero development donation address:

46BeWrHpwXmHDpDEUmZBWZfoQpdc6HaERCNmx1pEYL2rAcuwufPN9rXHHtyUA4QVy66qeFQkn6sfK8a HYjA3jk3o1Bv16em

52 votes: hell yes
refund via xmr addressthere is no need for a transaction ID in my case.

500 votes YES
refund via XMR (PM'd David Latapie)

20 votes: hell yes
Return to CK char 171.

500 votes

I'm voting YES. I'm not voting HELL YES although I think it is pretty clear the vote will pass and it won't matter. But in the event that it didn't, I don't see the need to resign and receive a refund, as it would be okay to continue the organization if someone were interested in doing the work to run it. I do think the role is potentially valuable.

If the measure passes, please refund my portion to CK character "smooth"

I have relinquished the delegated votes from equipoise who may place his own vote on this matter.

20 votes
hell yes

I'll send to dev fund

 

20 Votes
Hell Yes
Return to Ck char 91

All the best David.

50 votes (if i remember correctly)
Vote:Hell Yes
XMR refund address:

1000 votes
Vote:Hell Yes
XMR refund address or CK character for refund will be provided to DavidLatapie within the time frame of the proposal.

51 votes.
HELL YES
Refund address provided to DavidLatapie via PM

51 votes.
HELL YES
_{Refund address provided to DavidLatapie via PM}