Americans are once again quitting their jobs at a growing rate

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Quote from: Hydrogen on January 09, 2023, 06:38:17 PM

I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere. But it is possible that one of the reasons people are quitting in high numbers involves them not being able to pay their bills with the salary they earn.

Perhaps that have got to have a path in to it but I think, people have more of understand the rat race and simply wants out. Who wouldn't?
The rat race is almost like a song on every one's lips and the inflation has made people realise just how bad it is to be in the rat race.
Nothing pays more than having your own thing going and with the lots of opportunities online, we've got individuals searching out means to make some good money and fend for themselves/family.

A company might only get to pay you 10-30% of what you generate but having to have your own thing going is the real deal and people are taking them chances.

Inflation has without a doubt made a lot of people to begin to think about topics they had decided to ignore for a very long time, and those quitting their jobs are most likely doing it for three different reasons, the first is they got a better job elsewhere which pays them more for the same amount of work, their current job does not allows them to pay their bills and they prefer to quit as it makes no difference if they work or not, and finally they are being underpaid for the work they do and they think they can make more money by becoming independent contractors.

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Quote from: uneng on January 14, 2023, 07:56:55 PM

Quote from: Hydrogen on January 09, 2023, 06:38:17 PM

People will adapt to become more like atilla the hun or genghis khan. Or is a shift towards nomadic lifestyles, no longer as easy as it once was. Nature and the wild no longer being able to offer as much in terms of potable water or foragable sustenance.

I just hope people don't start raiding, pillaging, burning, torturing and murdering like the barbarians of the old days. Cheesy

While I see some people from big centers looking for a peaceful fresh new lifestyle on the wilderness, I don't know the percentage those people correspond on the bigger picture. As I observe these are older people who are on their 50's and 60's. The youngs still prefer the urban lifestyle and wouldn't stand the simplicity, challenges and difficulties of the daily life in countryside areas.

These people in US must be quitting their jobs because there is a promise of something better they can start working with, as the american economy is already showing signs of recovery against inflation.

I would also like to move to a calm place and to wilderness. I am too tired and sick of all the loudness around. In our society people don't count mental health as issue - they would always think its black magic -- however the jobs are reducing and people are shifting to the business and that has encouraged small business alot

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Quote from: Hydrogen on January 09, 2023, 06:38:17 PM

People will adapt to become more like atilla the hun or genghis khan. Or is a shift towards nomadic lifestyles, no longer as easy as it once was. Nature and the wild no longer being able to offer as much in terms of potable water or foragable sustenance.

I just hope people don't start raiding, pillaging, burning, torturing and murdering like the barbarians of the old days. Cheesy

While I see some people from big centers looking for a peaceful fresh new lifestyle on the wilderness, I don't know the percentage those people correspond on the bigger picture. As I observe these are older people who are on their 50's and 60's. The youngs still prefer the urban lifestyle and wouldn't stand the simplicity, challenges and difficulties of the daily life in countryside areas.

These people in US must be quitting their jobs because there is a promise of something better they can start working with, as the american economy is already showing signs of recovery against inflation.

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Quote from: sovie on January 14, 2023, 01:45:19 PM

Quote from: Despairo on January 09, 2023, 10:56:19 PM

I wonder why people are quitting their jobs? I know the most reason would be due to low salary, but how can they survive if they're not working? I think any people will accept any jobs even though how low the salary is, rather than become unemployed and doesn't earn anything. So IMO, they've already find a job that paid very well in private, which is like a programmer where they got paid with Bitcoin and they have a chance to publish it, so the government think they're not working, but the truth they're working in their home.

along side there are big companies which are firing their staff members- amazon being on the top then comes twitter. There is already so many jobless people.
This would result in more crime and robbery. The inflation is already at the peak.
where is the world heading towards. That is alarming.

Quitting doesn't mean the employee will no longer seek for another job, they are simply wanting a better treatment or working environment(to some cases). I'd do the same thing if I would be uncomfortable with my job but that's indeed true, it is hard having no job at all. I also want to cut the relation of crime rate to people who quit their job. As I've said, quitting won't make it certain that the individual will be homeless or jobless forever, that depends on them. In terms of going for the exist from a company, reality is, there are really many job opportunities out there having different standard but you would be able to get one if you can sacrifice some factors if you just want to such as lower salary or toxic environment; depending on what you can endure.

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Quote from: Despairo on January 09, 2023, 10:56:19 PM

I wonder why people are quitting their jobs? I know the most reason would be due to low salary, but how can they survive if they're not working? I think any people will accept any jobs even though how low the salary is, rather than become unemployed and doesn't earn anything. So IMO, they've already find a job that paid very well in private, which is like a programmer where they got paid with Bitcoin and they have a chance to publish it, so the government think they're not working, but the truth they're working in their home.

along side there are big companies which are firing their staff members- amazon being on the top then comes twitter. There is already so many jobless people.
This would result in more crime and robbery. The inflation is already at the peak.
where is the world heading towards. That is alarming.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on January 09, 2023, 06:38:17 PM

I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere. But it is possible that one of the reasons people are quitting in high numbers involves them not being able to pay their bills with the salary they earn.

Perhaps that have got to have a path in to it but I think, people have more of understand the rat race and simply wants out. Who wouldn't?
The rat race is almost like a song on every one's lips and the inflation has made people realise just how bad it is to be in the rat race.
Nothing pays more than having your own thing going and with the lots of opportunities online, we've got individuals searching out means to make some good money and fend for themselves/family.

A company might only get to pay you 10-30% of what you generate but having to have your own thing going is the real deal and people are taking them chances.

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Quote from: Darker45 on January 12, 2023, 08:58:32 PM

One of the probable reasons I'm seeing is related to the other topic you opened for discussion. Side hustles are now more attractive than permanent jobs. And for so many reasons. For one, you will earn better doing side hustles than being employed. That itself is more than enough for employees to quit from their jobs. Other than that, side hustles could give you a lot more time for other important things. With a full time job, you're bound to be on duty, for example, from 8 AM to 5 PM, and 5 or 6 days a week.

Other factors like burn out, toxic supervisors and bosses, toxic workmates, mind-numbing routine, lack of personal and career growth, and many others are also valid reasons for many to quit full-time jobs. Especially because there are side hustles that are available.

You have a good point. There’s a lot of factors to consider why every employee end up quitting his job. But the most possible reason I think is they found better opportunities outside their job, which means better compensation and better work scenario that will create higher advantage on part of the worker. Otherwise, if an employed person suddenly quit from his job without valid reason, he must prepare himself to suffer from economic downturn.

People quit their jobs for various reasons. Most of the time, people quit in search for better opportunities or work pay or most times, both. But there are also some major reasons people could be inclined to quit. People quit cause they may feel undervalued or undermined. While the pay may be good, some employees may quit their jobs cause they’re being undermined or not valued in the work place.
If an employee quits his job, the person must have been prepared for the reality of being jobless.

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Quote from: Vaculin on January 13, 2023, 04:16:50 PM

Quote from: Darker45 on January 12, 2023, 08:58:32 PM

One of the probable reasons I'm seeing is related to the other topic you opened for discussion. Side hustles are now more attractive than permanent jobs. And for so many reasons. For one, you will earn better doing side hustles than being employed. That itself is more than enough for employees to quit from their jobs. Other than that, side hustles could give you a lot more time for other important things. With a full time job, you're bound to be on duty, for example, from 8 AM to 5 PM, and 5 or 6 days a week.

Other factors like burn out, toxic supervisors and bosses, toxic workmates, mind-numbing routine, lack of personal and career growth, and many others are also valid reasons for many to quit full-time jobs. Especially because there are side hustles that are available.

You have a good point. There’s a lot of factors to consider why every employee end up quitting his job. But the most possible reason I think is they found better opportunities outside their job, which means better compensation and better work scenario that will create higher advantage on part of the worker. Otherwise, if an employed person suddenly quit from his job without valid reason, he must prepare himself to suffer from economic downturn.

This can be the main reason, looking for a high paying job instead of working over work and underpay, this could be the case and the unemployment rate of US is quiet low as well which means many are working actively that can help them financially. Those companies should assess the reason why many are quitting their job, are they paying them enough or giving them enough recognition? This should be their assessment and adjust accordingly.

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Quote from: Darker45 on January 12, 2023, 08:58:32 PM

One of the probable reasons I'm seeing is related to the other topic you opened for discussion. Side hustles are now more attractive than permanent jobs. And for so many reasons. For one, you will earn better doing side hustles than being employed. That itself is more than enough for employees to quit from their jobs. Other than that, side hustles could give you a lot more time for other important things. With a full time job, you're bound to be on duty, for example, from 8 AM to 5 PM, and 5 or 6 days a week.

Other factors like burn out, toxic supervisors and bosses, toxic workmates, mind-numbing routine, lack of personal and career growth, and many others are also valid reasons for many to quit full-time jobs. Especially because there are side hustles that are available.

You have a good point. There’s a lot of factors to consider why every employee end up quitting his job. But the most possible reason I think is they found better opportunities outside their job, which means better compensation and better work scenario that will create higher advantage on part of the worker. Otherwise, if an employed person suddenly quit from his job without valid reason, he must prepare himself to suffer from economic downturn.

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Quote from: fuguebtc on January 13, 2023, 09:00:38 AM

I'm not advocating for the government but if you are the government, do you have a plan for the current crisis? Crises caused by wars and pandemics both come so quickly and unexpectedly that no one is ready to respond in time. Even a great power like the US is not so well prepared, much less should blame poorer countries.

Increasing wages is only effective when a country's economy is growing well, in this case if goods increase due to inflation and the government increases wages so that people are comfortable spending it will make inflation harder to control. A country's economy isn't as simple as you might think, raising wages won't solve anything.

Well, when something super unexpected happens nobody is ready for it at all. It is not even just about pandemic, which is a global thing that happened 100 years ago last time, so it is normal to be not ready for something like that at all, it was totally out of the blue and even if you could get ready for it a lot better, most nations turned that into political stuff and didn't want to do what is required to be safer.

Like masks and vaccinations which would have helped people save themselves, was turned into political ideology, politicians who got the vaccination went to get votes from people who didn't just for more votes. Hence, being ready wasn't the issue, not being willing was.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on January 13, 2023, 07:07:50 AM

Maybe it's because of what you have mentioned already, they can't pay their bills with their salary on their job. The problem is that most of the Governments around the world doesn't care about the increase of salary, and they don't also make a plan on how to fight the increasing prices of every products that we need in everyday lives, maybe they have, but always acting too late.

That's why maybe the americans quit their job, finding other opportunities outside their comfort zone.

I'm not advocating for the government but if you are the government, do you have a plan for the current crisis? Crises caused by wars and pandemics both come so quickly and unexpectedly that no one is ready to respond in time. Even a great power like the US is not so well prepared, much less should blame poorer countries.

Increasing wages is only effective when a country's economy is growing well, in this case if goods increase due to inflation and the government increases wages so that people are comfortable spending it will make inflation harder to control. A country's economy isn't as simple as you might think, raising wages won't solve anything.

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Maybe it's because of what you have mentioned already, they can't pay their bills with their salary on their job. The problem is that most of the Governments around the world doesn't care about the increase of salary, and they don't also make a plan on how to fight the increasing prices of every products that we need in everyday lives, maybe they have, but always acting too late.

That's why maybe the americans quit their job, finding other opportunities outside their comfort zone.

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One of the probable reasons I'm seeing is related to the other topic you opened for discussion. Side hustles are now more attractive than permanent jobs. And for so many reasons. For one, you will earn better doing side hustles than being employed. That itself is more than enough for employees to quit from their jobs. Other than that, side hustles could give you a lot more time for other important things. With a full time job, you're bound to be on duty, for example, from 8 AM to 5 PM, and 5 or 6 days a week.

Other factors like burn out, toxic supervisors and bosses, toxic workmates, mind-numbing routine, lack of personal and career growth, and many others are also valid reasons for many to quit full-time jobs. Especially because there are side hustles that are available.

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Quote from: Despairo on January 09, 2023, 10:56:19 PM

I wonder why people are quitting their jobs? I know the most reason would be due to low salary, but how can they survive if they're not working? I think any people will accept any jobs even though how low the salary is, rather than become unemployed and doesn't earn anything. So IMO, they've already find a job that paid very well in private, which is like a programmer where they got paid with Bitcoin and they have a chance to publish it, so the government think they're not working, but the truth they're working in their home.

Not a good reason to quit since crisis still occuring and they will go broke if they quit without having an alternative profit source. To many people accepting low salary jobs at the moment just to survive the ongoing crisis and maybe this kind of incident maybe a part of protest to the government to do something related to this issues. But all of this are just temporary since those guys will find job after they realized that they cannot do anything with these issues and they in badly need of money.

Well people these days have learned to be appreciative even in low paid jobs as inflation is now uncontrolled and they would surely suffer the consequences if they cannot make a sustainable income. But if they have reasons to quit because there are already well paid jobs waiting outside, then why not? After all, people will eventually love their new work as long as they receive high salary and that their efforts are well compensated too.

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Quote from: Despairo on January 09, 2023, 10:56:19 PM

I wonder why people are quitting their jobs? I know the most reason would be due to low salary, but how can they survive if they're not working? I think any people will accept any jobs even though how low the salary is, rather than become unemployed and doesn't earn anything. So IMO, they've already find a job that paid very well in private, which is like a programmer where they got paid with Bitcoin and they have a chance to publish it, so the government think they're not working, but the truth they're working in their home.

That would actually happen as no one would want to stay longer in a job where workers are underpaid, so they would always look for a greener pasture and that would mean living their current job in exchange for a well paid job. And luckily, some of them find their satisfaction working in crypto jobs as they are well compensated and eventually develop more learnings in the crypto world.

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Quote from: Despairo on January 09, 2023, 10:56:19 PM

I wonder why people are quitting their jobs? I know the most reason would be due to low salary, but how can they survive if they're not working? I think any people will accept any jobs even though how low the salary is, rather than become unemployed and doesn't earn anything. So IMO, they've already find a job that paid very well in private, which is like a programmer where they got paid with Bitcoin and they have a chance to publish it, so the government think they're not working, but the truth they're working in their home.

Yes I never understood this either. I think what is happening they are quitting bad jobs like at McDonald’s and basically staying unemployed until they find something better.

Most likely their friends had a bad job, at min wage and they looked for another job which was more fun and higher pay and they told all their friends about it and they also quit. And this is most likely all these min wage jobs that nobody wants to work because they are over difficult.

What happened to keeping the job, looking for another one with hope, and managing the current one? Maybe there are external factors other than this one because it doesn't make any sense at all even in an ideal situation, and private jobs aren't too standard enough to meet minimum wages to handle bills they have at the end of the month either. The assumption that an employee left their job because they saw their friends quit is irrational and makes no sense.

I think that the increase in the number of employees who are losing their jobs is due to many companies preparing for a recession. We have been seeing headlines that the US will most likely enter a recession this year, even though the government has been denying it. Crypto companies are not exempt from these mass layoffs, which may be why we are seeing an increase in the number of employees losing their jobs on monthly basis.

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I wonder what percentage of people resigning falls under them trying to find a more meaningful job rather than just running for a higher salary, or if they were in a mobbing environment, because looking at these percentages, I'm sure that not that negligible amount falls under it.

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Some people resigned not because they found another job with a higher salary. It is very likely that the original company has been unable to pay him the salary he needs. He had no choice but to resign. Or maybe he is younger and he thinks he has a wider world. Working in a small office is no longer enough for him.
People have to live, and life depends on sufficient funds. In fact, if you don't have money, you can't live well. This cannot be denied.

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Quitting doesn't mean that they will be unemployed. I believe that they will find another job maybe because their salary isn't enough to pay their bills.

I don't know if it's only me, but I think quitting your job just because you wanted too and don't have any alternative into it is just pure stupidity. I mean in order for a person to live, they must work (unless there are some people who can work for them which is a bit crazy).

One reason why many are quitting probably is because they want to work from their home. More convenient but at the same time, pays higher. I watched a Youtube video months ago saying that this trend will continue in 2023 and it seems like it's happening.

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Quote from: adaseb on January 09, 2023, 11:06:09 PM

Quote from: Despairo on January 09, 2023, 10:56:19 PM

I wonder why people are quitting their jobs? I know the most reason would be due to low salary, but how can they survive if they're not working? I think any people will accept any jobs even though how low the salary is, rather than become unemployed and doesn't earn anything. So IMO, they've already find a job that paid very well in private, which is like a programmer where they got paid with Bitcoin and they have a chance to publish it, so the government think they're not working, but the truth they're working in their home.

Yes I never understood this either. I think what is happening they are quitting bad jobs like at McDonald’s and basically staying unemployed until they find something better.

Most likely their friends had a bad job, at min wage and they looked for another job which was more fun and higher pay and they told all their friends about it and they also quit. And this is most likely all these min wage jobs that nobody wants to work because they are over difficult.

Right. Those jobs who need more effort and hardwork are instead the low paying jobs so expect that employees will never stay and work for them for long. They will really quit and will look for better jobs that they will be satisfied with the compensation. Also, these employees might be quitting because there are more online jobs right now that are offering bigger salaries by just working remotely, and these jobs do not require more heavy works but more on good analysis and thinking.

That's the reality and I think in the current era, jobs that rely on the physical pay lower than jobs that rely on the brain,
sometimes seeing like that feels unfair but we also can't do anything,
Online jobs are currently very popular besides that the salary is also big.

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