Topic: Americans Flocking to China (Read 1873 times)
I think in America it is easier to realize themselves!
Do you have a link to back up your claim of 600,000 Americans living in China? That sounds a bit high. I would also like to know how many of them are Caucasian. I know from experience that when you're a white guy in China, you may speak some Chinese (I don't), but everybody will see you as a foreigner.
I don't know about the exact demographics, it can be inaccurate often and who will prove census wrong?
I visit China around 10 times a year and I'e seen more brown people there rather than white people, and Chinese treat all of them the same. They are rude and isolated and don't care about other people, I've even seen racist Chinese peeps there, so idk but yeah.I guess it really depends on the place you go?
I heard some feedbacks from my friends that its really recommended to just go with a chinese friend. Then again you visited chinese 10 times a year so you must know how to get around speaking the language on your own.
no I don't know their language, but I have the power of google and I translate text and audio, I do take help of the locals but mostly send pictures to friends (chinese friends) if I am unable to comprehend and they help me out, all online
Its very easy, and sometimes people do speak English too but their accent is so heavy, I fail to understand Do you have a link to back up your claim of 600,000 Americans living in China? That sounds a bit high. I would also like to know how many of them are Caucasian. I know from experience that when you're a white guy in China, you may speak some Chinese (I don't), but everybody will see you as a foreigner.
I don't know about the exact demographics, it can be inaccurate often and who will prove census wrong?
I visit China around 10 times a year and I'e seen more brown people there rather than white people, and Chinese treat all of them the same. They are rude and isolated and don't care about other people, I've even seen racist Chinese peeps there, so idk but yeah.I guess it really depends on the place you go?
I heard some feedbacks from my friends that its really recommended to just go with a chinese friend. Then again you visited chinese 10 times a year so you must know how to get around speaking the language on your own.
Do you have a link to back up your claim of 600,000 Americans living in China? That sounds a bit high. I would also like to know how many of them are Caucasian. I know from experience that when you're a white guy in China, you may speak some Chinese (I don't), but everybody will see you as a foreigner.
I don't know about the exact demographics, it can be inaccurate often and who will prove census wrong?
I visit China around 10 times a year and I'e seen more brown people there rather than white people, and Chinese treat all of them the same. They are rude and isolated and don't care about other people, I've even seen racist Chinese peeps there, so idk but yeah.
Anyone have a link to the 10 year tourist visas OP referred to?
China's government has high standards as to ingredients that they allow and don't allow as food additives.
Poisoned infant's formula. Unlabeled Viagra in health drinks. The above statement is delusional. The government can't enforce such standards.
The delusion is thinking some people who don't care about you who wear hats that say "government" will make sure you and your family have good food. That is, and always will be, up to you.
In 2015, more than 9.4 million Chinese students took what is basically the Chinese SAT test. Every single testing facility took countermeasures against cheating by using facial recognition-capable film surveillance. They even installed specialty materials to the windows and walls that blocked all electronic signal. Why are they so adamant about cheating? China believes that test scores alone should be the only thing universities consider when they decide who gets in - not monetary status or or familial ties.
Totalitarian police state is your idea of safety, freedom, and innovation
Triple lolzz. People in Beijing pay off their -kindergarten- teachers to get in. Monetary status and familial ties are always an issue. Anyway the totalitarian police state is exactly why Americans are moving to China and basically anywhere else outside of occupied north america.
What about expatriation of funds? Is it easy for foreigners?
That would be a concern for anybody wanting to move to China for the short-term.
That would be a concern for anybody wanting to move to China for the short-term.
Not in this forum it wouldn't.
I think the allure of moving to China may diminish with the Goverbmebt devaluing their currency and making spending power of local money go a shorter and shorter distance. Also, most of these expats are flocking to the cities...the cities can only support the weight of a limited number of people. Overcrowding will be an awful consequence.
What about expatriation of funds? Is it easy for foreigners?
That would be a concern for anybody wanting to move to China for the short-term.
That would be a concern for anybody wanting to move to China for the short-term.
While it is a little dated, 2013, this article suggests the number is a lot lower, only 1,202 foreigners total getting a Chinese "green card" equivalent that year. Though there are 622,000 total immigrants in China with that credential. Maybe that is the source of the OP's title. As others have noted, most of them are of Chinese descent.
The US issues about a million green cards per year and has an estimated undocumented population of about twelve million, about evenly split between Central & South American countries and the rest of the world.
I think many Central and South American countries could be attractive places for US retirees. While China has attracted some high profile immigrants from the US, e.g. investor Jim Rogers, I liked the comment about most of them being English teachers.
The US issues about a million green cards per year and has an estimated undocumented population of about twelve million, about evenly split between Central & South American countries and the rest of the world.
I think many Central and South American countries could be attractive places for US retirees. While China has attracted some high profile immigrants from the US, e.g. investor Jim Rogers, I liked the comment about most of them being English teachers.
And there's 3.8 million chinese in America
Supposedly there was only 100k Americans in China in 2010. I'm not sure if I can trust the 600k figure.
Also I wonder how many of the Americans living in China are chinese.
Supposedly there was only 100k Americans in China in 2010. I'm not sure if I can trust the 600k figure.
Also I wonder how many of the Americans living in China are chinese.
They're all 20-30yr old English teachers 
This is really true. Alot of westerner's find it hard to be 'somebody' in their own country, but they're instantly elevated when they goto China.
They're all 20-30yr old English teachers
I know the Chinese state is now being developed itself into a superpower, but what this is a little bit exaggerated explanation even sounded like he was promoting
Do you have a link to back up your claim of 600,000 Americans living in China? That sounds a bit high. I would also like to know how many of them are Caucasian. I know from experience that when you're a white guy in China, you may speak some Chinese (I don't), but everybody will see you as a foreigner.
it doesnt seem all that impossible, there are over 1.3 billion people in china. its not impossible to think that 0.04% of the chinese population are american immigrants. Do you have a link to back up your claim of 600,000 Americans living in China? That sounds a bit high. I would also like to know how many of them are Caucasian. I know from experience that when you're a white guy in China, you may speak some Chinese (I don't), but everybody will see you as a foreigner.
I dont think there is a valid article or source of metric unless its like from a reputable third party source site like baidu in china to show the op`s #`s.
But, its pretty crazy that the land of opportunity is now reverse where I see more of my friends wanting to go china to start factories since wages are so cheap.
And the difference is that most of my friends are chinese americans.
So why do you believe this number, if there's no hard data to back it up? There's plenty of bureaucracy in China. The government knows exactly how many foreigners have work visas, and most Americans abroad are registered at the local embassy, so the US knows it as well.
Regarding your friends who want to start factories, there's no need for this. There are plenty of existing factories already, better buy their products and letting them handle all the worries of manufacturing.
China is very poor country, in farm jobs an average salary is around 30 USD per month. In factories manufacturing equipment is very old etc. But of course China is very large country. 
In factories manufacturing equipment is very old etc. But of course China is very large country. They have more growing middle class, so its not really becoming a poor country in the long run.
Most chinese families are bidding on auction sites to have a drivers license to pick up a car. And they end up buying a house in america on the midwest thats cheap to just move all entirely based on what they saved up.
Do you have a link to back up your claim of 600,000 Americans living in China? That sounds a bit high. I would also like to know how many of them are Caucasian. I know from experience that when you're a white guy in China, you may speak some Chinese (I don't), but everybody will see you as a foreigner.
I dont think there is a valid article or source of metric unless its like from a reputable third party source site like baidu in china to show the op`s #`s.
But, its pretty crazy that the land of opportunity is now reverse where I see more of my friends wanting to go china to start factories since wages are so cheap.
And the difference is that most of my friends are chinese americans.
Do you have a link to back up your claim of 600,000 Americans living in China? That sounds a bit high. I would also like to know how many of them are Caucasian. I know from experience that when you're a white guy in China, you may speak some Chinese (I don't), but everybody will see you as a foreigner.
China is very wealthy, they pretty much own the US. Lending them money to cover they debt. However now that China's economy is declining, I guess they will want their interest rates and part of their money back. Good luck living in China, wondering how it will play out.
Macro economics may be good but micro are crap. People's life quality is shit compared to the average American. Not to mention the horrible air quality in the man cities and spreading around there as well.
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