About the details of AMHASH
It's already the 7th of March today, and friedcat has disappeared for 41 days. It is very surprising to me that there hasn't been a reasonable resolution to the problem. Which problem? Missing miners? Missing FC?
A while before, I have talked about this with AsicMiner many times. If a company cannot function with one of their leaders missing, it means that the company is not in a good state. I noticed this some time ago, and I talked to them about it, but they kept insisting that they were fine, and they had Plan Bs and backup plans in place. Oh really? Is there any communication in writing? Whom did you talk to?
Nobody thought that it would actually happen. friedcat goes missing, and AsicMiner is basically nonfunctional. Worst of all, all other managers and leaders of the company know nothing, nothing about anything at all. They just didn't care about the operations of the company, and gave everything to friedcat to handle. The most unacceptable of all to me, is that they kept viewing the cooperation between AsicMiner and RockMiner a bad thing, and they refused to participate, and thought that I was a danger to the revenue of AsicMiner.
THis is not the point. THe point is to restore mining and paying overdue dividends
The truth is that that hurt me a lot. I met friedcat in 2012, I became his official distributor in 2013, selling AsicMiner products within the country. In 2014, we even formed a team, and I helped AsicMiner directly, helping them with certain things. Outside the company, I also contributed to maintain the image of AsicMiner and its reputation, because I have seen how it works, and I trust friedcat as a person. In the past year, there have been some minor and major problems in our cooperation, and many of the times was AsicMiner intentionally or not intentionally causing losses for RockMiner. I still told my team that AsicMiner doing things like that must have a reasoning behind it.
But this incident made me realize that the unique views of a person is useless. (Chinese phrase thingy) (Basically means: "Friendship and trust is useless in a cruel business world") What incident? What happened to the miners?
About AMHash, I reiterate the position of RockMiner in it; AMHash is a joint project between AsicMiner and RockMiner. AsicMiner is in charge of the hashpower, RockMiner is in charge of marketing, promotion, and the selling of the hashpower, and customer support. This is what we told the public, and this is the truth, and how the project works. Even a contract was made listing these details, but it was not officially signed, however, this does not mean that it isn't true. You should know, that even digital records count as contracts and promises these days.
Absolutely. The fact that Rock was dealing with the sales does not mean that you are not financially responsible jointly with asicminer and amhash. We understand that above statement is a starting point to recover things without Friedcat as we cannot wait another 40 day for his coming or not.
Topic: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract - page 33. (Read 304327 times)
So basically there are no news of the stolen miners in this which is interesting. Nothing about any conflicts of interest or who did what.
Many thanks byt411
Many thanks byt411
https://www.bikeji.com/t/1228
Translation of the first part:
About the details of AMHASH
It's already the 7th of March today, and friedcat has disappeared for 41 days. It is very surprising to me that there hasn't been a reasonable resolution to the problem.
A while before, I have talked about this with AsicMiner many times. If a company cannot function with one of their leaders missing, it means that the company is not in a good state. I noticed this some time ago, and I talked to them about it, but they kept insisting that they were fine, and they had Plan Bs and backup plans in place.
Nobody thought that it would actually happen. friedcat goes missing, and AsicMiner is basically nonfunctional. Worst of all, all other managers and leaders of the company know nothing, nothing about anything at all. They just didn't care about the operations of the company, and gave everything to friedcat to handle. The most unacceptable of all to me, is that they kept viewing the cooperation between AsicMiner and RockMiner a bad thing, and they refused to participate, and thought that I was a danger to the revenue of AsicMiner.
The truth is that that hurt me a lot. I met friedcat in 2012, I became his official distributor in 2013, selling AsicMiner products within the country. In 2014, we even formed a team, and I helped AsicMiner directly, helping them with certain things. Outside the company, I also contributed to maintain the image of AsicMiner and its reputation, because I have seen how it works, and I trust friedcat as a person. In the past year, there have been some minor and major problems in our cooperation, and many of the times was AsicMiner intentionally or not intentionally causing losses for RockMiner. I still told my team that AsicMiner doing things like that must have a reasoning behind it.
But this incident made me realize that the unique views of a person is useless. (Chinese phrase thingy) (Basically means: "Friendship and trust is useless in a cruel business world")
About AMHash, I reiterate the position of RockMiner in it; AMHash is a joint project between AsicMiner and RockMiner. AsicMiner is in charge of the hashpower, RockMiner is in charge of marketing, promotion, and the selling of the hashpower, and customer support. This is what we told the public, and this is the truth, and how the project works. Even a contract was made listing these details, but it was not officially signed, however, this does not mean that it isn't true. You should know, that even digital records count as contracts and promises these days.
Below, there is a large amount of email screenshots between friedcat of AsicMiner and rockxie of RockMiner. It basically outlines the way that dividends are distributed, mining addresses, and prices, and things like that. If there is any interest, I will translate them.
Tips are appreciated.
1Cb2JZxh2R8UxLCuQofdNFm4qnSkga2YyU
Translation of the first part:
About the details of AMHASH
It's already the 7th of March today, and friedcat has disappeared for 41 days. It is very surprising to me that there hasn't been a reasonable resolution to the problem.
A while before, I have talked about this with AsicMiner many times. If a company cannot function with one of their leaders missing, it means that the company is not in a good state. I noticed this some time ago, and I talked to them about it, but they kept insisting that they were fine, and they had Plan Bs and backup plans in place.
Nobody thought that it would actually happen. friedcat goes missing, and AsicMiner is basically nonfunctional. Worst of all, all other managers and leaders of the company know nothing, nothing about anything at all. They just didn't care about the operations of the company, and gave everything to friedcat to handle. The most unacceptable of all to me, is that they kept viewing the cooperation between AsicMiner and RockMiner a bad thing, and they refused to participate, and thought that I was a danger to the revenue of AsicMiner.
The truth is that that hurt me a lot. I met friedcat in 2012, I became his official distributor in 2013, selling AsicMiner products within the country. In 2014, we even formed a team, and I helped AsicMiner directly, helping them with certain things. Outside the company, I also contributed to maintain the image of AsicMiner and its reputation, because I have seen how it works, and I trust friedcat as a person. In the past year, there have been some minor and major problems in our cooperation, and many of the times was AsicMiner intentionally or not intentionally causing losses for RockMiner. I still told my team that AsicMiner doing things like that must have a reasoning behind it.
But this incident made me realize that the unique views of a person is useless. (Chinese phrase thingy) (Basically means: "Friendship and trust is useless in a cruel business world")
About AMHash, I reiterate the position of RockMiner in it; AMHash is a joint project between AsicMiner and RockMiner. AsicMiner is in charge of the hashpower, RockMiner is in charge of marketing, promotion, and the selling of the hashpower, and customer support. This is what we told the public, and this is the truth, and how the project works. Even a contract was made listing these details, but it was not officially signed, however, this does not mean that it isn't true. You should know, that even digital records count as contracts and promises these days.
Below, there is a large amount of email screenshots between friedcat of AsicMiner and rockxie of RockMiner. It basically outlines the way that dividends are distributed, mining addresses, and prices, and things like that. If there is any interest, I will translate them.
Tips are appreciated.
1Cb2JZxh2R8UxLCuQofdNFm4qnSkga2YyU
.@MrTeal thanks, just assumed these had to be in production & selling like hotcakes, since Mobsark flaunted this chip as proof that AM was hugely successful lately.
*Guess I misinterpreted "anything currently available" as "available from the competition." Mobsark clearly meant "currently available," period.
The chip simply doesn't exist
BE100 - Major success
BE200 - Failure
BE300S - Better than anything currently available
BE200 - Failure
BE300S - Better than anything currently available
*Guess I misinterpreted "anything currently available" as "available from the competition." Mobsark clearly meant "currently available," period.
The chip simply doesn't exist
.@Mobsark or anyone, really: Haven't been keeping up with the AM saga lately, point me to where this BE300[s?] being sold?
They weren't, as far as I know. As far as I know, they just did a small MPW run of chips for internal testing. Some board integrators asked about getting a couple samples for testing but as far as I know none went out.
.@Mobsark or anyone, really: Haven't been keeping up with the AM saga lately, point me to where this BE300[s?] being sold?
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I don't even know why I was on it in the first place. You'd have to ask Canary those questions.
I don't even know why I was on it in the first place. You'd have to ask Canary those questions.
Wait, you can get on default trust when someone on the default trust ... trusts you? Who came up with this brilliant & sexy scheme?
But I digress... So, how did you fall out of Canary's favor? Anything you might have done or... Any guesses?
Whatever... we need to wait for the translation into English of this communication.
Any idea what this 110nm stands for in their communication Einstein?
Any idea what this 110nm stands for in their communication Einstein?
Actually, I think I can.
.@Mabsark: How come you're not on the default trust anymore? Keep forgetting to to ask you...
I don't even know why I was on it in the first place. You'd have to ask Canary those questions.
yea Mr Mabsarkastic !
.@Mabsark: How come you're not on the default trust anymore? Keep forgetting to to ask you...
@Mabsark
Pathetic? We can make mistakes and errors in our judgements and interpretations on what has actually happen right?
We have to wait for the proper translation.
Pathetic? We can make mistakes and errors in our judgements and interpretations on what has actually happen right?
We have to wait for the proper translation.
None of what I said needs translation. BE100 was used in the Block Erupter line of miners, BE200 is used in Tubes and Prismas. They're well known facts and even the slightest bit of research would confirm that.
To claim that Tubes and Prismas use 110nm ASICs is beyond retarded.
Whatever... we need to wait for the translation into English of this communication.
Any idea what this 110nm stands for in their communication Einstein?
@Mabsark
Pathetic? We can make mistakes and errors in our judgements and interpretations on what has actually happen right?
We have to wait for the proper translation.
Pathetic? We can make mistakes and errors in our judgements and interpretations on what has actually happen right?
We have to wait for the proper translation.
None of what I said needs translation. BE100 was used in the Block Erupter line of miners, BE200 is used in Tubes and Prismas. They're well known facts and even the slightest bit of research would confirm that.
To claim that Tubes and Prismas use 110nm ASICs is beyond retarded.
@Mabsark
Pathetic? We can make mistakes and errors in our judgements and interpretations on what has actually happen right?
We have to wait for the proper translation.
Pathetic? We can make mistakes and errors in our judgements and interpretations on what has actually happen right?
We have to wait for the proper translation.
None of what I said needs translation. BE100 was used in the Block Erupter line of miners, BE200 is used in Tubes and Prismas. They're well known facts and even the slightest bit of research would confirm that.
To claim that Tubes and Prismas use 110nm ASICs is beyond retarded.
He wants to get off the hook! Let it go 
Pathetic? We can make mistakes and errors in our judgements and interpretations on what has actually happen right?
We have to wait for the proper translation.
We have to wait for the proper translation.
What will that show?
You're translating what, something posted by Rock Xie (always tempted to just type Roxy), an associate of friedcats? He's disseminatin' some incriminatin' truths now, because he wants to haelp!?
@Mabsark
Pathetic? We can make mistakes and errors in our judgements and interpretations on what has actually happen right?
We have to wait for the proper translation.
Pathetic? We can make mistakes and errors in our judgements and interpretations on what has actually happen right?
We have to wait for the proper translation.
You are just trolling around here, hindering the efforts of others. If you won't help out, the least you can do is to shut up!
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Hindering whose efforts exactly, newfriend? Efforts to do what?
If you're talking about (possible) efforts at misdirection, I can't care less if those are hindered.
If, OTOH, you mean explaining that the absurd shit proposed here is 100% doomed to failure and further assrape, that's called "caring," that's called "help."
@Mobsark: Why not take delightcoin's advice? If you can't positively contribute, just STFU. Ur coin's gone, and your AM pimping didn't even help u one bit.
Justice
So, let me get this straight: AMHASH has pretty much crashed and all the shares that we have on havelockinvestments are frozen, cannot sell, and we aren't getting paid diviends?
I'm just getting back to this, when was the last time we heard from amhash?
I'm just getting back to this, when was the last time we heard from amhash?
Most of the info that's been provided here is total bullshit. Just read amhash's latest posts to get get the latest info.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/amhash-388726
@AirWolf
do not be too quick too judge. Let's wait for official translation.
I cannot see how asicminer plans to get off the hook in all this. because it it turns out that they had 110nm ponzi and lied about the theft of the miners all we have a company that's name was used in this. It is impossible to assume that asicminer did not know of the AMHash existence and that they were technically involved as Asicminer's name and people were there.
do not be too quick too judge. Let's wait for official translation.
I cannot see how asicminer plans to get off the hook in all this. because it it turns out that they had 110nm ponzi and lied about the theft of the miners all we have a company that's name was used in this. It is impossible to assume that asicminer did not know of the AMHash existence and that they were technically involved as Asicminer's name and people were there.
@l3sny
Using 110nm chips in late 2014 is, as i speculate it before, almost like a nonfunctional box, just for fooling us and probably HL and RM. to give you an example, I have 3 miners of 60GHS each bought in late 2012 that are based on 65nm chips , yes, you read it right 2012.
To build a farm over first generation chips in 2014 an sell cloudmining shares of it is outright SCAM and paying dividends over it is a PONZI.
LETS NOT FOOL OURSELVES OVER THIS. WE HAVE BEEN FOOLED ENOUGH
They wasn't using 110nm chips in late 2014. BE100 was 110nm, BE200 was 40nm. BE200 is the chip used by Tubes and Prismas sold in 2014. Those miners are in peoples hands, have had multiple independent reviews and couldn't possibly be based on BE100. These are all well known facts so what you are saying is just complete nonsense. It also goes to show how pathetic you are at actually doing any research.
To all victims of this scam,
I suggest we open some group somewhere, something like Google Groups or Facebook Group or etc. so that we can communicate faster and get to know each other more to co-operate better. We have to unite and smash those scammers. I wanna help, but because we are not collective, I don't know where to start. As I said, we could open up a new group (I thought of a new thread here, but trolls are hindering us with their useless and distracting posts, that's why it is much better to open a group in some other platform) and make collaboration and assignments for everyone which determines who is going to do what. This could help us solve this problem more effective and fast. In short, let's organize!
I suggest we open some group somewhere, something like Google Groups or Facebook Group or etc. so that we can communicate faster and get to know each other more to co-operate better. We have to unite and smash those scammers. I wanna help, but because we are not collective, I don't know where to start. As I said, we could open up a new group (I thought of a new thread here, but trolls are hindering us with their useless and distracting posts, that's why it is much better to open a group in some other platform) and make collaboration and assignments for everyone which determines who is going to do what. This could help us solve this problem more effective and fast. In short, let's organize!
Hiya!
I have discussed this with AirWolf and a couple of other amhash investors. We will start a new thread tomorrow evening Eastern European time to handle the things in more effective fashion. It will be a sort of co-ordinating committee of 3 people including myself. I need a day to prepare it, it will be a moderated thread I think. We welcome all Amhash investors willing to contribute in any way to recover our assets.
I'm just getting back to this, when was the last time we heard from amhash?
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