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Topic: AMT_miners Advanced Mining Technology/Technologies are scamming thieves!!! (Read 8700 times)

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any update on these. totally badlly lost on this .they own me 20 BTCS.  anybody would like to donate to me to my address? thanks.
BTC: 1KS9rRw6uv7mptjEVhBHYMtGKK2QfWVju4.
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Yep, he's deleting even more posts and has now locked his "official" self-moderated thread.

Good thing AMT - Mining on the level.
Imagine how bad it would be if it WASN'T on the LEVEL
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From this point forward AMT will not be discussing any company issues, giving any company updates, or providing any support on this forum. AMT recognizes some forum members have tried to and will continue to try to speak on behalf of AMT and we urge customers to simply not listen. We will be launching a support forum via our website which can be found at http://advancedminers.com/forums 

Our goal is to deliver miners to existing customers and get to the point where we issue full refunds to our clients despite receiving a miner or not. Any opinionated comments from any past clients or non-clientele, allegations, conspiracy theories, rumors, "investigative reports" are most likely fabricated exploits designed to defer new clients from purchasing from AMT. As there are several from this forum ,please realize these individuals do not and never have spoken on our behalf.

We simply don't find this forum to be a valuable tool for helping and supporting our current customer base and due to all the antisemitic, prejudice and racist allegations that are constantly made about our company and our staff, it is no longer a pleasant environment to be apart of. Our true clients that need support understand what we're talking about and we're happy to support them via our thread which we will populate with helpful tutorials and information everyday going forward. Other clients that need immediate technical support can contact [email protected] and you'll receive a reply within 24 hours.

We can only hope that our true clients and supporters will see passed the layers of crap to come going forward.

Thank you for your understanding in this matter.

We don't speak for you. We only speak from experience. A terrible experience! Which all of your future customers should be well aware of because you cannot run from your past and all the bad choices you have made like ignoring your customers when they do send you multiple emails or lying to your customers like you have so many times. If you say you are going to ship by a certain date and then don't, then you have to update your customer in a timely fashion, not just let them go on thinking that they are going to receive their order whenever you decide the time table will be. EVERY respectable company does this when it comes to these types of orders. So don't think you can wipe the past and be rid of us. We aren't going anywhere.

My post was deleted but it's not going anywhere, like the truth, right AMT.  Wink
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They are operating out of an address at 450 Johnson Str, 2nd flr, Jenkintown, PA 19046
But it appears that in reality Joshua Zipkin is working out of either Bulgaria or China.

Hard to pin them down. The best thing would be to locate Jim Brown who apparently still is in the Jenkintown area and serve him directly.
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Well I filed a case against them in PA court because they have yet failed to refund me or provide me with miners, but notice came back that they could not be served at their advertised addresses (both previous) because they were locked and vacated. Not a surprise, really, but... in order to get this moving forward, I am hoping to avoid the expense of a PI to locate them-- so, does anyone know the present whereabouts of Josh Zipkin or Jim Brown?

Thanks!
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I had a similar experience. They owe me $6159, which they haven't delivered since my order in December 2013. I have contacted them multiple times, and tried to sue in small claims court but have been unable to find them.

I finally emailed them (for probably the 15th time) saying I would be joining the class action lawsuit against them, at which point they said this:

Mr.Garrett,
Thank you for informing us of your attendance in the class action.
We wish you all the best.
AMT.


These people are thieves.
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Re: Here is a need to know about forum trolls and shills.
Today at 02:49:12 AM
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Quote from: AMT_miners on June 12, 2014, 04:31:17 PM
Here ya go.

Here is a recording of Mr. Lenell, this is the man that is leading the class action against AMT.

Because we need wanted to sell to him from the beginning. But he begged, for 4 weeks.

*I deleted the link to his recording out of respect for privacy*

I wouldn't say he alone is "leading" the lawsuit. AMT screwed so many customers over with hopes and dreams based on empty promises that there were/are plenty of people willing to join in on this lawsuit. Not that it matters, but Mr. Lenell isn't the one that started it, he joined because he knew he should and just because he begged for 4 weeks doesn't mean anything, other than he really wanted to believe in the empty dreams AMT was/is providing. This lawsuit isn't solely about money. It is about the fraud and deception that AMT has fostered. It's about all the people and their families that have been burned by AMT, Joshua Zipkin and Jim Brown. If you are Josh or Jim who cares. Even if you are some other guy, a puppet of Josh or Jim, it doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that people are given what they are/were promised and that is why this lawsuit exists, because AMT obviously was not holding up their side of the bargain.
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@Chazaki,

I'm in the same boat...

Order #736 ordered & paid for on November 24th, 2013.
2 x 1.2TH/s miners
$11,758.00

No response to calls or emails requesting a refund.

What was the process for filing an FTC complaint? And what's the information on joining the class action law suit?
--
Roy
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The All-in-One Cryptocurrency Exchange
Here's my story:

I ordered two machines from them on December 5, 2013 worth $12,148
including express shipping. I emailed them immediately following my
order to ensure they received it and that I would get my order fulfilled
at the date stated on the website; the week of February 1st. They
responded to me the following day, assuring me that my order would,
indeed, be shipped the first week in February. I followed the minimal
updates they provided on their public forums on bitcointalk.com, however
February came and my order had not been shipped. I emailed them, called
them, left voice messages, and even posted on their public forum
inquiring about the status of my order #899. I could not get a response
from them until the second week in April. They emailed me on April 9th
saying that they had my order "in the back of their mind" and that I
should expect to see a tracking number on April 10th or 11th. It is now
April 21st and they are again no longer responding to my requests for
refund or even just basic information regarding my order.

On their forums, people began posting pictures/videos of their machines
running. When I asked what their order number was, every single person
had an order number higher than mine, showing that my order had been
skipped. At this point, I no longer want the product I paid for but
rather my money back, as they have not fulfilled my order and are
neglecting their customers.

I have spoken to attorneys, filed complaints with the FTC and am joining the Class Action suit.
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phin did you or have you or are you investigating coindesk and bitmine for a carbon copy of amt issues. cystomers asking for miners and refunds and taking kits sans psus
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Advanced Mining Technology: Bitcoin Miner Manufacturer Litigation

Practice: Consumer Protection
Phase: Current
 AMT customers seek damages in a lawsuit filed in Federal Court in Philadelphia against AMT for its failure to deliver purchased bitcoin miners and failure to issue refunds causing the customers millions in damages.

Chimicles & Tikellis LLP has initiated a nationwide class action lawsuit on behalf of customers of Advanced Mining Technology, Inc. (a/k/a Advanced Mining Technologies, Inc.)(“AMT”).  Named as defendants in the lawsuit are AMT and two of its founders, owners and/or employees, Joshua Zipkin and Jim Brown.  The case is captioned: Craig Lenell et al. v. Advanced Mining Technology Inc. (a/k/a Advanced Mining Technologies Inc.) et al., Case No. 2:14-cv-01924 (U.S.D.C. ED. PA).

AMT, which is located in Haverford, PA, holds itself out as a manufacturer of specialized technology equipment used to mine bitcoins, a type of cryptocurreny, or virtual currency.  AMT purports to manufacture and sell a line of high-speed bitcoin miners that range in price from approximately $1,500 to $15,000.  The “mining” of bitcoins is an increasingly competitive and time-sensitive process by which computer hardware is used to obtain bitcoins by solving complex mathematical algorithms.  The Complaint alleges that because these algorithms become progressively more difficult over time.

In their Complaint, Plaintiffs Jared Pela, Craig Lenell and Thomas Urbanek allege they and hundreds of other AMT customers ordered and paid for bitcoin miners which they never received from AMT.  After weeks and months of undue delay, Plaintiffs unsuccessfully attempted to cancel their orders and get refunds.  As a result, Plaintiffs allege economic damages including, but not limited to, loss of the purchase price and the lost opportunity to mine bitcoins.

According to the Complaint, AMT’s alleged conduct amounted to unfair, deceptive and fraudulent business practices, a breach of contract, a breach of express warranty, common law fraud, negligent misrepresentation, breach of the duty of good faith and fair dealing, unjust enrichment, and violations of various state consumer protection laws.  The Complaint alleges that by concealing material facts and making false and misleading statements, AMT was able to wrongfully acquire millions of dollars from customers since mid-2013.

If you are interested in discussing your rights as an AMT customer and/or have information relating to the matter, please contact Chimicles & Tikellis by clicking the “Email us about this Case” form, below.

Is there any way to revoke Joshua Zipkin's passport so that he can't leave the country?

Last post... awww. What now PG?
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending

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Advanced Mining Technology: Bitcoin Miner Manufacturer Litigation

Practice: Consumer Protection
Phase: Current
 AMT customers seek damages in a lawsuit filed in Federal Court in Philadelphia against AMT for its failure to deliver purchased bitcoin miners and failure to issue refunds causing the customers millions in damages.

Chimicles & Tikellis LLP has initiated a nationwide class action lawsuit on behalf of customers of Advanced Mining Technology, Inc. (a/k/a Advanced Mining Technologies, Inc.)(“AMT”).  Named as defendants in the lawsuit are AMT and two of its founders, owners and/or employees, Joshua Zipkin and Jim Brown.  The case is captioned: Craig Lenell et al. v. Advanced Mining Technology Inc. (a/k/a Advanced Mining Technologies Inc.) et al., Case No. 2:14-cv-01924 (U.S.D.C. ED. PA).

AMT, which is located in Haverford, PA, holds itself out as a manufacturer of specialized technology equipment used to mine bitcoins, a type of cryptocurreny, or virtual currency.  AMT purports to manufacture and sell a line of high-speed bitcoin miners that range in price from approximately $1,500 to $15,000.  The “mining” of bitcoins is an increasingly competitive and time-sensitive process by which computer hardware is used to obtain bitcoins by solving complex mathematical algorithms.  The Complaint alleges that because these algorithms become progressively more difficult over time.

In their Complaint, Plaintiffs Jared Pela, Craig Lenell and Thomas Urbanek allege they and hundreds of other AMT customers ordered and paid for bitcoin miners which they never received from AMT.  After weeks and months of undue delay, Plaintiffs unsuccessfully attempted to cancel their orders and get refunds.  As a result, Plaintiffs allege economic damages including, but not limited to, loss of the purchase price and the lost opportunity to mine bitcoins.

According to the Complaint, AMT’s alleged conduct amounted to unfair, deceptive and fraudulent business practices, a breach of contract, a breach of express warranty, common law fraud, negligent misrepresentation, breach of the duty of good faith and fair dealing, unjust enrichment, and violations of various state consumer protection laws.  The Complaint alleges that by concealing material facts and making false and misleading statements, AMT was able to wrongfully acquire millions of dollars from customers since mid-2013.

If you are interested in discussing your rights as an AMT customer and/or have information relating to the matter, please contact Chimicles & Tikellis by clicking the “Email us about this Case” form, below.

Is there any way to revoke Joshua Zipkin's passport so that he can't leave the country?
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Name:   AMT_miners
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Date Registered:   September 29, 2013, 03:48:09 AM
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Looks to me like the Jewish Bulgarian Freemasons Gimp Bastard failed again in keeping his promise of returning today to address the important mounting issues in his now two self-moderated threads.

Then again, perhaps is just celebrating Passover starting today, and tonight he'll watch the moon turn Red Bud red.
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Advanced Mining Technology: Bitcoin Miner Manufacturer Litigation

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AMT customers seek damages in a lawsuit filed in Federal Court in Philadelphia against AMT for its failure to deliver purchased bitcoin miners and failure to issue refunds causing the customers millions in damages.
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Why not just post into https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/amt-fucks-us-over-again-569926

AMT fucks us again. Its on the hardware page and BFL fucks us again got away with being there so can this one.

Oh and that dude blowing smoke up an ass''s ass....mind blown. Blowing smoke up an ass's ass.
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The following is how AMT tried to discredit so-called trolls on its thread early on: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3893935



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NEW THREAD POLICY.  

ANY FORUM/THREAD MEMBERS THAT HELP AMT  FIGHT AGAINST TROLLS AND NEGATIVE THREAD MEMBERS WILL GET 5% OFF ANY MINER WE SELL + 1 TO 2 WEEKS OFF THE EXPECTED SHIPPING TIME FRAME. STARTING NOW 12/09/2013.  THAT DISCOUNT IS ON TOP OF ANY DISCOUNTS OR OTHER PROMO'S WE'RE RUNNING NOW OR IN THE FUTURE AND CAN BE USED AT ANY POINT THE TROLL FIGHTER WOULD LIKE TO USE IT.  

How do you help AMT fight trolls? When other members make negative remarks or post something that can be construed as something provocative or something generally undermining towards our credibility you should follow that post with a positive response and if the situation calls for it, an intelligent remark against the troll or negative individual Including reasons why they are possibly being negative, or provocative.

Also, random comments here that are supportive and generally nice for AMT to have on it's thread is also considered helping AMT fight trolls. A combo of the two is preferred. Don't fake it, but just support an up an coming mining manufacturer through positive remarks.  

When claiming your discount please simply provide proof of your posts via a message to us directly here on this forum from the username that you used to post with. One post wont cut, we're looking for real supporters here and we'll reward those that are positive and cheerful individuals on this thread from this point forward.

There are a few members which already earned this Troll fighting discount and I'll make a list of them shortly.

NOT a single company in the world that operated on the up-and-up would stoop to such measures.
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