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Quote from: EluguHcman on April 28, 2024, 06:08:12 PM

Someone betted on boxing and lost the game but the gambler out of grieve of his lost is trying to ease his emotion Said, It is okay as it is for at least the guy I betted on made me lost the game but had unfortunate for him too to had taken beaten of his life.

I think such is and aggressive and irresponsible gambler who gambles on the peak of what he can not afford to loose.

I view it as self calming to ease the pain of lose by coming up with reasons for him to not overthink about his losses. This is not an irresponsible manner of he is just doing it for himself and not suggesting to others.

The irresponsible part is only true if he is just doing that so that he can place bet over and over again even though he keeps losing because this reasoning is already use to reinforcing addiction rather than self calming.

I do this kind of thoughts when I blow up my bankroll and resting from gambling so that I can clear my mind from thinking about my losses.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 29, 2024, 09:32:58 AM

Honestly when a professional lose a match, it's not really matter since they still earn money and build their reputation.

Believe it or not, some gamblers have a reputation for losing, and they are often used in fixed fights. In these fights, you notice that these boxers come up against opponents who you expect them to win, but they end up losing because it is a fixed game and they still earn money from the loss.

Anthony Joshua's fight against Francis Ngannou was one example of a fight where people suspected that it could have been a fixed fight because of the mid-performance from Francis, who could not even fight as expected. Even though Francis lost his two fights, it made him richer.

If you bet on these fights as a gambler, and after losing, your consolation becomes that the gambler was bruised enough to your satisfaction to compensate you for the loss, I'm sorry to say, but you alone lost. The boxer you bet on who just lost will still earn some money from losing.

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Quote from: Winterfrost on April 29, 2024, 08:36:17 AM

dude don't know that boxing is two sided coin with a win win at both ends. Either the athlete get beaten up or not, it's still a win win situation for them and affect there pay in a very slight way. Your opinion doesn't change that and your loss doesn't make any difference in Thier carrier. What's even the loss for them isn't just about the pain but the fact that thier reputation and the title they are defending has gone a bit down and that's just it.

It's really laughable how can a gambler think like that.

Instead of looking what he get after he gambled his money, he's comparing his life with the boxer's life, when we all know the boxer's life is better than him. I know rich people also a gambler, but someone who desperately want to make money from gambling is either middle class or low class people.

Honestly when a professional lose a match, it's not really matter since they still earn money and build their reputation.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on April 28, 2024, 06:08:12 PM

I think such is and aggressive and irresponsible gambler who gambles on the peak of what he can not afford to loose.

My understanding is that the person did not act aggressively, in fact he knew the condition of the boxer he was betting on and accepted the loss of the gambling he was playing, of course he felt the risk of loss.

If this is what he said.

Quote from: EluguHcman on April 28, 2024, 06:08:12 PM

It is okay as it is for at least the guy I betted on made me lost the game but had unfortunate for him too to had taken beaten of his life.

Here I think that the gambler is relatively normal and accepts what he feels, maybe he thinks today is an unlucky day for me to gamble, so he doesn't take actions that could harm himself, Of course he is responsible for himself not to act aggressively and harm his life, it's just that the boxer he bet on had bad luck.

I like that kind of gambler, accept defeat he still thinks with common sense and he still says 'it's okay' for me that professional gambler loses and wins still behaves normally.

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Quote from: Winterfrost on April 29, 2024, 08:36:17 AM

dude don't know that boxing is two sided coin with a win win at both ends. Either the athlete get beaten up or not, it's still a win win situation for them and affect there pay in a very slight way. Your opinion doesn't change that and your loss doesn't make any difference in Thier carrier. What's even the loss for them isn't just about the pain but the fact that thier reputation and the title they are defending has gone a bit down and that's just it.

Why is everybody talking about boxing. There are other sports where this is obtainable. Sports like Mixed martial arts (MMA), Kickboxing, Karate. I like the person in the story. He would wish that in the next fight, the person he bet on will be beating over again but that not how it works.

Let your friend watch boxing videos and read boxing articles or the easiest is to follow the boxers online and to understand that in most of these boxing matches everybody is a winner, from the boxers, to the show promoters and everyone. There's money to be made.

Lastly, do not be an emotional gambler.

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Well, the boxer who loses will still make some money. The gambler who loses will not. That's the difference. So I am assuming he is just trying to be optimistic about his loss and trying to take the frustration out by using the fate of the boxer which I think is wrong.
Truly, that is an irresponsible feat, he doesn't need to say that but because he just wants to feel better for himself he uses another reasoning to cover it.

Anyway, even if he kept on telling that to himself, the truth that he lost some money would not be erased. He gambled and there's no way to get that money back unless he gambles again which outcome could be another loss. IMO, this is actually a sad story for a gambler who seems unable to swallow the truth that his money is gone.

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Quote from: Cantsay on April 28, 2024, 06:13:32 PM

Hmm, it doesn’t seem like a wise statement to me because if he had placed his bet on a different game let’s say football and lost what would he had commented? That it was also unfortunate that the team that made him lost didn’t gain any point from that match?

It might also be that we’re just overreacting to his comments and that he said it jokingly because we say something’s that others might think it means something deep but to us it’s just a joke.

While you think it might just be a joke and if truly was a joke then I think he is truly a gambler who finds fun while gambling. Definitely he did not run mad over his lost but was still able to find some funs even when he had lost on the game.
So then lets just say he is as funny thought gambler and could had really bet with what is affordable to loose since he could display such funny content creation. Yeah I laughed over it, so as others too and there was this facial expression of him just taking the process for granted.

I could be wrong to say he was aggressive in the first place but on the onset it sounded like the team he betted on deserve the lost since they made him lost too that was to say he needed to satisfy his emotions.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on April 28, 2024, 06:08:12 PM

Someone betted on boxing and lost the game but the gambler out of grieve of his lost is trying to ease his emotion Said, It is okay as it is for at least the guy I betted on made me lost the game but had unfortunate for him too to had taken beaten of his life.

I think such is and aggressive and irresponsible gambler who gambles on the peak of what he can not afford to loose.

dude don't know that boxing is two sided coin with a win win at both ends. Either the athlete get beaten up or not, it's still a win win situation for them and affect there pay in a very slight way. Your opinion doesn't change that and your loss doesn't make any difference in Thier carrier. What's even the loss for them isn't just about the pain but the fact that thier reputation and the title they are defending has gone a bit down and that's just it.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on April 28, 2024, 06:08:12 PM

Someone betted on boxing and lost the game but the gambler out of grieve of his lost is trying to ease his emotion Said, It is okay as it is for at least the guy I betted on made me lost the game but had unfortunate for him too to had taken beaten of his life.

I think such is and aggressive and irresponsible gambler who gambles on the peak of what he can not afford to loose.

No one should gamble or resort to gambling as the last resort solution to their problems as gambling never solves you any problems,in fact in most times it will only create you more problems.No matter if someone gets the deceiving impression that in some sports it is easier to win compared to some others,it is not true,in fact in tennis we see more surprise results comparing to football and as such it is not a solution to change your gambling pattern.An overall normal advice I would say.

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If the money is money he can afford, he is fine and can calm his emotions. But it's different if he uses bigger money and loses.
It explains that he is an irresponsible gambler and chases his winnings. He must learn from his loss this time that he cannot hope too much to win.
It seemed that he didn't study each boxer's abilities, so he couldn't choose the boxer with the greatest chance of winning.
But everything had happened, and he didn't need to regret it.

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It requires risk awareness, something our friend lacks. His resignation and possibly scorn for his own judgements are evident. Like putting your chips on the table without counting them. You must be smart, know what you're risking, and not act rashly. This is about understanding the psychological effects of limitless gambling, not just losing money. For financial and health reasons, we need wiser, more responsible gaming. Setting limits and knowing when to step back is wonderful advice for gambling and life!

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Quote from: Cantsay on April 28, 2024, 06:13:32 PM

Hmm, it doesn’t seem like a wise statement to me because if he had placed his bet on a different game let’s say football and lost what would he had commented? That it was also unfortunate that the team that made him lost didn’t gain any point from that match?

The statement by that gambler is a pure indication of a lack of knowledge about the sport (boxing) he was betting on. He is unaware that in boxing even the loser goes home with some profit still despite not been the winner of that match. The only thing that a loser in boxing doesn't go home with is the glory of that match.

It is customary with gamblers to find a way to sympathize and console themself to a big loss that deeply touches their emotions. The truth is that all of these excuses doesn't change a thing about what we have lost. Gambling responsibly at all times is what really count.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on April 28, 2024, 06:08:12 PM

Someone betted on boxing and lost the game but the gambler out of grieve of his lost is trying to ease his emotion Said, It is okay as it is for at least the guy I betted on made me lost the game but had unfortunate for him too to had taken beaten of his life.

I think such is and aggressive and irresponsible gambler who gambles on the peak of what he can not afford to loose.

I think it's his way to control his emotion or to make him calm and I don't see any problem with it. Most of the time I do this, for instance, I lost in a $20 bet on a football match, what I say is "At least I didn't place thousand dollar bet like the others" I think it's just a common thing to do so you wouldn't get mad or angry because you lose. What I see is he tried to be positive even after losing.

But yeah, in boxing win or lose you'll get paid. Just imagine, you got beaten and you won't receive any reward for fighting, I don't think many people would become a boxer. Grin

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Boxing is a game where getting beaten up is the norm, that is the essence of the game and as the gambler betting on the game one needs to forget this and focus on their bets and not what happens to the players - this might sound a bit shrewd but it is what must be done to be able to gamble without getting emotional.

The user should move to other games if boxing is making them emotional at this point of time.

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Quote from: angrybirdy on April 29, 2024, 03:23:03 AM

I think this is what OP means. When it comes to boxing players, even if you lose in the match, you can also get a paid fee depends to the contract prize that will be given to you, ....

That's not what OP said, although I could have a little trouble understanding his statement but it's like easing ourselves on our losses by convincing that it's okay to lose because the boxer suffer worst defeat since he is beaten or hurt by his opponent.

I think it's not an irresponsible gambling manner, it's just a way of conforting ourselves and that way we won't feel bad and we can easily move on. Sometimes, I also do similar thing, like when I lose $100, I would just say to myself that it's fine because other gamblers losses more than I lose, they lose $1000 and they aren't even worried.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on April 28, 2024, 06:08:12 PM

Someone betted on boxing and lost the game but the gambler out of grieve of his lost is trying to ease his emotion Said, It is okay as it is for at least the guy I betted on made me lost the game but had unfortunate for him too to had taken beaten of his life.

He has forgotten or he did not know that in boxing, losers can also be paid. Not only winners make money in boxing.

Quote from: EluguHcman on April 28, 2024, 06:08:12 PM

I think such is and aggressive and irresponsible gambler who gambles on the peak of what he can not afford to loose.

I do not know if he placed too much money on the loser but from his expression and emotion, you knew.

He should not think about another person but about himself and how he is gambling. He should start to gamble responsibly. If he used small amount of money to gamble, it will be better.

You mean, losers in the match - the boxer himself, right? Because winner or loser, these boxers really can get their purse split. Sometimes, the loser has higher earnings than the winner, depending on their purse split arrangements. But if you talk about a bettor, definitely, he will lose the money.

I think this is what OP means. When it comes to boxing players, even if you lose in the match, you can also get a paid fee depends to the contract prize that will be given to you, It is a much needed compensation because boxing is not an easy sports, it requires a serious lenght of training and exercise and their life is at risk once they entered the matching ring.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on April 28, 2024, 06:08:12 PM

Someone betted on boxing and lost the game but the gambler out of grieve of his lost is trying to ease his emotion Said, It is okay as it is for at least the guy I betted on made me lost the game but had unfortunate for him too to had taken beaten of his life.

I think such is and aggressive and irresponsible gambler who gambles on the peak of what he can not afford to loose.

How is this in any way aggressive? Sounds like quite the opposite, like an empathic person would think. He could have it worse is quite healthy attitude to losing something. And this comparison is quite fitting, as bettor only lost the money, while person who had to fight for it got beaten.

And how is it irresponsible to lose a bet? That doesn't make any sense either. Why do you think he couldn't afford to lose it, because you are leaving that bit out? People win and lose all the time in gambling, that's why it's called gambling. Otherwise it would be investing. So what makes this particular bet an irresponsible next to all the others? Because it was lost bet?

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This is one of those types of gambling discussion topics that after one had made a comment, you'd return to see that the mods have move it to off-topic board. I'll still comment though.

Quote from: EluguHcman on April 28, 2024, 06:08:12 PM

Someone betted on boxing and lost the game but the gambler out of grieve of his lost is trying to ease his emotion Said, It is okay as it is for at least the guy I betted on made me lost the game but had unfortunate for him too to had taken beaten of his life.

It is not aggression neither is it irresponsible gambling. It's just one of those silly comments we make to comfort ourselves when we lose because a loss is painful. It also goes to show that the punter doesn't have good knowledge of the sports he had bet on. He needs to back and do his homework before his next bet. His ignorance made him lose. If he had watched fights where AJ lost the fight but became richer, then he'd not repeat those words again.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on April 28, 2024, 06:08:12 PM

Someone betted on boxing and lost the game but the gambler out of grieve of his lost is trying to ease his emotion Said, It is okay as it is for at least the guy I betted on made me lost the game but had unfortunate for him too to had taken beaten of his life.

I think such is and aggressive and irresponsible gambler who gambles on the peak of what he can not afford to loose.

I think it's just still the person trying to cope up with the losses he cannot afford. So he is trying to convince himself that way. Losses hurts especially if you put in significant amount of money. After all, once you are expose in this type of betting, it is no longer about what happened actually but more of their own perception of what happened.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on April 28, 2024, 06:08:12 PM

Someone betted on boxing and lost the game but the gambler out of grieve of his lost is trying to ease his emotion Said, It is okay as it is for at least the guy I betted on made me lost the game but had unfortunate for him too to had taken beaten of his life.

I think such is and aggressive and irresponsible gambler who gambles on the peak of what he can not afford to loose.

Even though we could say this was an irresponsible gambler because he had chosen to wager money he could not afford to lose on some boxing match, he actually found a quite intelligent way to cope with his losses. Though, this would have not worked in any other situation or any other kind of sport, since we are talking about a contact sport where there is obviously physical "violence" involved.
I have read worse stories on how losing gamblers and bettors react to losing all their money on a single match and I must say this is far from being the worst example or reaction one can find out there.

It may be cynical, yes. It it could have been worse, he could have become violent or even harm himself over his losses. Instead, he consoled himself on the fact the person who was supposed to win him some good money got beaten up, it is like a direct punishment in his eyes, for making him lose money, instead. Just my opinion, of course.

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