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tss
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June 15, 2015, 01:50:45 AM
#31
sorry to hear about your IQ/EQ issue.  it should not be as much of an issue in written form rather than face to face dealings as you can write and rewrite and think prior to posting.  stop acting like a child.

it was clear from the post that the loss of forum btc was total bs and just a crying toddlers whine about being treated unfairly. quite a poor taste in judgement on your part. i think you would have been better off saying you were drunk or that your wife took control of your account and made those posts.  apologizing for it, just cements the type of character you are when pushed against the wall (maybe by your wife)

ohh and what what BitcoinEXpress said.
legendary
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June 15, 2015, 12:30:23 AM
#30
CIYAM, It takes time, but most people are very forgiving and understanding (or really forgetful ... lol?) in the long run.
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June 14, 2015, 06:16:40 PM
#29
Obviously he used extremely poor judgement, but when he realized no one else thought what he was doing was a joke he admitted his wrong doing and returned the forum funds. While this doesn't just erase what he did, IMO it does demonstrate his will to make reparations, as well as enough character to own up to his idiotic actions. I think an opportunity for him to redeem himself with time is not unreasonable.


CIYAM never intended it as a joke. He was serious.

I'm suprised you haven't spun this as just another example of special treatment by the forum mods LOL



~BCX~
Ugh... Why egg him on??
legendary
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June 14, 2015, 05:34:59 PM
#28
Obviously he used extremely poor judgement, but when he realized no one else thought what he was doing was a joke he admitted his wrong doing and returned the forum funds. While this doesn't just erase what he did, IMO it does demonstrate his will to make reparations, as well as enough character to own up to his idiotic actions. I think an opportunity for him to redeem himself with time is not unreasonable.


CIYAM never intended it as a joke. He was serious.

I'm suprised you haven't spun this as just another example of special treatment by the forum mods LOL



~BCX~
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June 14, 2015, 02:23:37 PM
#27
You indeed deserved a negative trust.

So you think we should remove it? Im still ponding whether I should or not, maybe you can help me with some arguments as to why I should remove the rating or change it to neutral. In the end no one was actually scammed. The forums founds have been returned and apparently have never been at risk, the posts have been edited regardless of the extortion attempt (I still wonder which rule exactly would allow the editing of insults though), CIYAM did apologize. With all that beeing said, Im still not certain it should be removed. There was an attempt to extort the forum and its staff and what sounded to me like a death threat.

No, you should not remove it because there was an attempt to extort the forum and a censure.

Sometimes people deserve a second chance as everyone can make a rash decision under pressure. Most of the time a good judge of character is how you try to amend your mistakes. What he did was obviously out of order but was also obviously done out of extreme anger. With that being said, he did the right thing, apologized and returned the money. Had he of not returned it or kept it until he got is way that would be a different matter. Should the feedback be removed? That's up to the people who left it. Maybe given the circumstances it could be changed to neutral at some point and I'd support whatever they choose.
Now you're talking about the character of those who left feedback Smiley
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June 14, 2015, 12:07:56 PM
#26
You indeed deserved a negative trust.

So you think we should remove it? Im still ponding whether I should or not, maybe you can help me with some arguments as to why I should remove the rating or change it to neutral. In the end no one was actually scammed. The forums founds have been returned and apparently have never been at risk, the posts have been edited regardless of the extortion attempt (I still wonder which rule exactly would allow the editing of insults though), CIYAM did apologize. With all that beeing said, Im still not certain it should be removed. There was an attempt to extort the forum and its staff and what sounded to me like a death threat.

No, you should not remove it because there was an attempt to extort the forum and a censure.

Sometimes people deserve a second chance as everyone can make a rash decision under pressure. Most of the time a good judge of character is how you try to amend your mistakes. What he did was obviously out of order but was also obviously done out of extreme anger. With that being said, he did the right thing, apologized and returned the money. Had he of not returned it or kept it until he got is way that would be a different matter. Should the feedback be removed? That's up to the people who left it. Maybe given the circumstances it could be changed to neutral at some point and I'd support whatever they choose.
legendary
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June 14, 2015, 12:04:08 PM
#25
Obviously he used extremely poor judgement, but when he realized no one else thought what he was doing was a joke he admitted his wrong doing and returned the forum funds. While this doesn't just erase what he did, IMO it does demonstrate his will to make reparations, as well as enough character to own up to his idiotic actions. I think an opportunity for him to redeem himself with time is not unreasonable.
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June 14, 2015, 11:50:45 AM
#24
You indeed deserved a negative trust.

So you think we should remove it? Im still ponding whether I should or not, maybe you can help me with some arguments as to why I should remove the rating or change it to neutral. In the end no one was actually scammed. The forums founds have been returned and apparently have never been at risk, the posts have been edited regardless of the extortion attempt (I still wonder which rule exactly would allow the editing of insults though), CIYAM did apologize. With all that beeing said, Im still not certain it should be removed. There was an attempt to extort the forum and its staff and what sounded to me like a death threat.

No, you should not remove it because there was an attempt to extort the forum and a censure.



If you've never had an "I hate you" moment with your wife (or significant other) then I guess you wouldn't understand.



The private life should be detached from the virtual life on internet.
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June 14, 2015, 11:49:04 AM
#23
You will find out that a lot of users here are not forgiving unfortunately...
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
June 14, 2015, 09:56:35 AM
#22
There might have been the appearance of that but in fact there was never any *actual* attempt to do so.

The BTC would not have been so quickly returned to @theymos if my supposed "extortion attempt" was actually serious (when angry sometimes we say all sorts of things that we don't really *mean*).

If you've never had an "I hate you" moment with your wife (or significant other) then I guess you wouldn't understand.
legendary
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June 14, 2015, 09:52:55 AM
#21
There was an attempt to extort the forum and its staff

FWIW, this mens rea is what counts for me, and I'd put a negative rep now if I didn't consider it to be too late. This is to say, if I had put it at the time, I wouldn't be removing it now.
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
June 14, 2015, 09:07:17 AM
#20
Also if it would be of any help then I will gladly "refrain from posting again" in any topic other than that of the CIYAM project topic (the work is more important to me than me being able to post elsewhere on this forum).

I recognise that I have a personal problem with IQ/EQ (I have a very high IQ but a very low EQ) that is perhaps not very common. I am not trying to make that as "an excuse" but simply as an "explanation" of my behaviour.

legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
June 14, 2015, 08:39:55 AM
#19
I do not deny the fact that I made a very stupid post and upset many people from that.

I also do still have a lot to offer to the forum in regards to the work I am doing for CIYAM and the AT creation that is now being used to perform "100% decentralised Atomic Cross-Chain Transactions".

That work is unfortunately now going to be coloured by my stupid mistake which I think is unfortunate for many others that have worked on this project that in no way is related to "scamming" of any sort.

Whatever "punishment* the forum wants to impose upon me I will accept but I do think it is unfortunate if the whole AT project gets destroyed because of this.

I am no longer a forum treasurer so the problem that led to this cannot be repeated (as for sure the forum won't trust me again to be a treasurer) but for the sake of the common benefit of "decentralised development" I would hope that the negative trust could be changed to "neutral" (am not asking anyone to remove anything).
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June 14, 2015, 08:33:56 AM
#18
You indeed deserved a negative trust.

So you think we should remove it? Im still ponding whether I should or not, maybe you can help me with some arguments as to why I should remove the rating or change it to neutral. In the end no one was actually scammed. The forums founds have been returned and apparently have never been at risk, the posts have been edited regardless of the extortion attempt (I still wonder which rule exactly would allow the editing of insults though), CIYAM did apologize. With all that beeing said, Im still not certain it should be removed. There was an attempt to extort the forum and its staff and what sounded to me like a death threat.
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June 13, 2015, 04:08:39 PM
#17
You indeed deserved a negative trust.


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June 13, 2015, 09:48:58 AM
#16
If this was another user, I bet you wouldn't be so lenient towards him.

Lenient in what way? Scammers aren't banned and he didn't scam in the end, but the appropriate feedback is still there and that's likely all that would have happened with any one else.
sr. member
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June 13, 2015, 09:39:07 AM
#15
If this was another user, I bet you wouldn't be so lenient towards him.
legendary
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June 12, 2015, 11:25:50 PM
#14
@CIYAM


Your story was obvious blatant bullshit. I'm not sure why you thought anyone would believe that.

Quit pretending it was just a "minor" lapse.

You wanted the benefit of blackmailing the forum without accepting the consequences.

Make no mistake, holding the forum's BTC as hostage is an attack on the forum.

Theymos is being way too generous in allowing you to remain.

Just my opinion.


~BCX~
legendary
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June 12, 2015, 07:13:01 AM
#13
Admittedly this was a very stupid mistake (and having returned the funds to the forum it cannot happen again) and I hope the moderators who have given me negative trust might consider removing it as I've never even come close to being a part of any sort of scam or deception on this forum before.

I am human, I love my wife and I made a very stupid mistake.

I am sorry.

Mistakes like this should be punished no matter how sorry you are and removing the negative trust just because you are sorry is a very stupid thing to do. If you want people to trust you in the future they must know about your stupid mistakes from the past. Next time think before acting!
sr. member
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June 11, 2015, 11:58:55 PM
#12
Glad you apologized. I was sad to see this story ever be in here. However glad nobody's funds were lost. I'm sure a great lesson has been learned from this and we can all move on.
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