Topic: An easy way to overcome China and Russia - page 2. (Read 287 times)

Actually, there is a factor which you are not keeping in mind when talking about both Russia and China closing their doors to the west and it is the fact China is dependent to the demand for products and services from western clients, specially those in the United States. China (unlike Russia) is a giant factory of a country which needs to keep the inflow of money from USA companies to stay thriving and alive, the same way USA needs to have a clear comercial relation with China, because USA manufacture their products there. Hence the reason USA cannot impose sanctions on China, the same way it has been done against Russia.
If China isolated itself it would translate into a high damage to themselves

It's actually ironic to compare hilter with Putin.
From what was written about hilter, it seems he was a globalist-nazi whose sole agenda was to conquer and rule the world. Putin doesn't seem like that kind of person. He doesn't have that kind of lust for power, and I don't see much desire to conquer or rule other nations in him. He's more interested in Russia and very defensive of her against nazis that tried to conquer/weaken her via choas.
The evil entity behind hitler is actually thesame entity that is behind those fighting to conquer and weaken Russia. The way Russia behaved in the conflict between her and Ukraine is quite opposite of what hitler would have done.


In regards to encouraging democracy and liberalization in Russia, I don't think Russia needs that. What every nation on Earth needs is rule based leadership/governance, with golden rule of Love for GOD & man. The rule has to be good or atleast fair to work in different countries & their own unique circumstances. Whatever ideology you want others to adopt has to be according to the good rules that factor in  their unique circumstances. You would be surprised how well the countries progress when they stick to good rule-based constitutions.

you have a point only the U.S can sustain it's economy for a while due to their capability to handle its economy and influence it's foreign policies to the third world countries

So Western countries decide everything no matter what? To be honest only US can sustain for a while if Russia and China shut their door and most EU countries will go bankrupt and wake up to the reality there is already a switch in the super powers and we are in transition period and in a decade or two the China will become the new US.

When Napoleon invaded Russia, he could choose a very simple way to win - liberate the peasants. But he appeared not to be smart enough for this. Now the story continues, possibly..
By the way, do you know that when Prigozhin moved toward Moscow in June, the Russian army units surrended to him?

These countries you mentioned will see such approach as infringement on its right to the choice governance as an independent country. And me and you know that they (the ruling class) wouldn't want to fold their hands and watch. They will the fight squarely against any external force and guess what? They have allies who are ever ready to support them. All the the countries in the universe won't practice at the same time.

Are you aware that would be quite a risky approach to take when comes to dealing with China and Russia, OP? There is a good reason neither the United States nor the Western allies have considered to do such thing like demand political change by directly threatening the Kremlin or Pekín; even if a big percentage of people in those countries are not willing to fight for their leaders, it does not mean those leaders won't force them to do so, the military there is pretty much in the side of those regimes and whether we agree with it or not, destroying key infrastructure like those used for communication could easily devolve into a causus belli.
Just think about it, North Korea is of the size of a fraction of both Russia and China but USA does not dare to deal with them directly, because their weapons and the human cost of it would be too high to try to break a fragile peace.

No matter what goes on among people and nations, the whole plan that is done, is the plan that God wants done. Isaiah 28:29:

I think that currently the politicians in democracies do not understand how they should confront authoritarian regimes like China and Russia. It can be very simple – threatening such regimes a war unless they choose political liberalization.
When Hitler started oppressing mass media in 1933, the France could threaten him – stop this unless we start a war. I am sure this was an easy way to prevent all horrors of the WW2. The Germans were eager to fight for their country, their “fatherland” as they understood it; but could they fight for political repressions in Germany, for closing independent mass media? I am sure that no. The same could happen in 2003 in Russia, when Putin started to take away the TV channels from Russian Oligarchs (NTV Ren TV).
And it is not too late to perform this now. Possibly soon Putin will block youtube in Russia (if not – eventually youtube will destroy the state propaganda in Russia). If the West threatens in this case the missile strikes on Russian centers of state TV channels – this will easily end the rule of Putin in Russia. The Russians surely will not fight for blocking youtube, for supporting the Putin’s lies.
The same with China. If I am not mistaken, the Chinese people are quite unhappy with the digital totalitarianism (state social rating) and surely will not fight for it.

I don't plagiarize