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December 21, 2013, 06:48:41 PM
#56
They also break into the machines. Thats what junkies do.

If there is no actual cash on site and the bitcoins arent even stored there its less temptation for physical theft.

Don't the staff have plenty of change? The launderette my mate goes to he just asks the owner and they just swap him the money for change.

Maybe the one here is different in that it is left open when no staff are around.

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December 21, 2013, 12:30:41 PM
#55
zero confirmations should be ok for such a business. only very small amounts of money.
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December 21, 2013, 11:48:51 AM
#54
you can hook all washing machine to basically a single mobile connection, but preferably you're gonna want a hard line.

this! if you fronted up the cost of a hard line you could have wifi running and attempt to charge people to use it while they're waiting for their washing... not sure if that would be successful these days where almost everyone has cheap mobile data.
Even in my little semi-rural midwest college town, we have a laundrymat that has wifi available already.
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December 21, 2013, 11:43:02 AM
#53
I was sitting at the Laundrette with some clothes to wash after I had to go to the service station to get enough $1 coins to operate the machines when I realised how much easier it would have been if the washing machines and dryers had qr codes on a screen attached that worked when the right amount of bitcoins were sent to the machines.

So much easier than carrying bulk change around and you could also install a bitcoin atm there to get some bitcoins from. Waiting for confirmations wouldn't even be a problem since you are stuck there for however long it takes to wash your clothes....



...and if the confirmations don't come through, the tracked clothes are sprayed with crude oil, thus needing to be washed again.

Along with the big sign depicting, "All double-spenders WILL be prosecuted to the full extent of the law or, depending on on how we feel, your tracked clothes WILL be sprayed with crude oil. The Management. Thank you for choosing Woopwoop-Wishy-Washy."
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December 21, 2013, 08:53:08 AM
#52
They also break into the machines. Thats what junkies do.

If there is no actual cash on site and the bitcoins arent even stored there its less temptation for physical theft.

The junkie would just try and steal the bitcoin reader and sell it ;-)
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December 21, 2013, 05:59:30 AM
#51
They also break into the machines. Thats what junkies do.

If there is no actual cash on site and the bitcoins arent even stored there its less temptation for physical theft.

Don't the staff have plenty of change? The launderette my mate goes to he just asks the owner and they just swap him the money for change.
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December 21, 2013, 05:50:35 AM
#50
They also break into the machines. Thats what junkies do.

If there is no actual cash on site and the bitcoins arent even stored there its less temptation for physical theft.
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December 21, 2013, 05:48:34 AM
#49
I was sitting at the Laundrette with some clothes to wash after I had to go to the service station to get enough $1 coins to operate the machines when I realised how much easier it would have been if the washing machines and dryers had qr codes on a screen attached that worked when the right amount of bitcoins were sent to the machines.

So much easier than carrying bulk change around and you could also install a bitcoin atm there to get some bitcoins from. Waiting for confirmations wouldn't even be a problem since you are stuck there for however long it takes to wash your clothes....

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for Bitcoin and that, but I fail to see how using Bitcoin in this situation is easier than coins? I'd prefer to just shove some coins in and off it goes. Using Bitcoin I'd got to arse about scanning codes etc... And if I can't get a signal on my phone I can't send them.

Bitcoin is great, but so is the convenience and ease of using cash.


Every time I go to get coins from the shops they look at me like I am a terrorist. It is not convenient at all to go hunting all over town for coins either.

It's really not that hard to put some coins aside when you get them in expectation of your laundry visit. Don't launderettes normally have lots of change any way?


They used to but it kept getting broken into.
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December 21, 2013, 04:04:59 AM
#48
I was sitting at the Laundrette with some clothes to wash after I had to go to the service station to get enough $1 coins to operate the machines when I realised how much easier it would have been if the washing machines and dryers had qr codes on a screen attached that worked when the right amount of bitcoins were sent to the machines.

So much easier than carrying bulk change around and you could also install a bitcoin atm there to get some bitcoins from. Waiting for confirmations wouldn't even be a problem since you are stuck there for however long it takes to wash your clothes....

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for Bitcoin and that, but I fail to see how using Bitcoin in this situation is easier than coins? I'd prefer to just shove some coins in and off it goes. Using Bitcoin I'd got to arse about scanning codes etc... And if I can't get a signal on my phone I can't send them.

Bitcoin is great, but so is the convenience and ease of using cash.


Every time I go to get coins from the shops they look at me like I am a terrorist. It is not convenient at all to go hunting all over town for coins either.

It's really not that hard to put some coins aside when you get them in expectation of your laundry visit. Don't launderettes normally have lots of change any way?
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December 21, 2013, 02:42:53 AM
#47
I was sitting at the Laundrette with some clothes to wash after I had to go to the service station to get enough $1 coins to operate the machines when I realised how much easier it would have been if the washing machines and dryers had qr codes on a screen attached that worked when the right amount of bitcoins were sent to the machines.

So much easier than carrying bulk change around and you could also install a bitcoin atm there to get some bitcoins from. Waiting for confirmations wouldn't even be a problem since you are stuck there for however long it takes to wash your clothes....



it would be a big hub for hackers to hangout at!

Love the idea of a bunch of hackers hanging out at laundrettes. Not sure if there are enough hackers in the world, spare ones anyway Wink
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December 21, 2013, 02:29:46 AM
#46
I was sitting at the Laundrette with some clothes to wash after I had to go to the service station to get enough $1 coins to operate the machines when I realised how much easier it would have been if the washing machines and dryers had qr codes on a screen attached that worked when the right amount of bitcoins were sent to the machines.

So much easier than carrying bulk change around and you could also install a bitcoin atm there to get some bitcoins from. Waiting for confirmations wouldn't even be a problem since you are stuck there for however long it takes to wash your clothes....



it would be a big hub for hackers to hangout at!
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December 21, 2013, 02:05:54 AM
#45
There needs to be an app wallet where you transfer BTC already cleared and ready to spend.

A pre-approved wallet would not need any waiting time.


But this would require knowledge of future transactions that haven't happened yet.  Unless of course they have already happened, in which case, they were verified as having occurred at some point in the past, and you don't now need to do anything - you've already paid.  However, fundamentally, for a transaction to ever occur there must, at some point, exist a time before it has happened and time after it has been verified to have happened, otherwise it has yet to occur.

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December 21, 2013, 12:47:14 AM
#44
There needs to be an app wallet where you transfer BTC already cleared and ready to spend.

A pre-approved wallet would not need any waiting time.

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December 21, 2013, 12:13:55 AM
#43
I was sitting at the Laundrette with some clothes to wash after I had to go to the service station to get enough $1 coins to operate the machines when I realised how much easier it would have been if the washing machines and dryers had qr codes on a screen attached that worked when the right amount of bitcoins were sent to the machines.

So much easier than carrying bulk change around and you could also install a bitcoin atm there to get some bitcoins from. Waiting for confirmations wouldn't even be a problem since you are stuck there for however long it takes to wash your clothes....



I have had the same thought when using a coin operated laundry. With a service of that low of a value at stake, and the ability to capture a double spender on camera, the coin laundry wouldn't need to worry about confirmations either, and could accept 0-conf Txs. I don't think a double spend is any more likely than someone using fake coins they minted.
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December 21, 2013, 12:09:07 AM
#42
I was sitting at the Laundrette with some clothes to wash after I had to go to the service station to get enough $1 coins to operate the machines when I realised how much easier it would have been if the washing machines and dryers had qr codes on a screen attached that worked when the right amount of bitcoins were sent to the machines.

So much easier than carrying bulk change around and you could also install a bitcoin atm there to get some bitcoins from. Waiting for confirmations wouldn't even be a problem since you are stuck there for however long it takes to wash your clothes....

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for Bitcoin and that, but I fail to see how using Bitcoin in this situation is easier than coins? I'd prefer to just shove some coins in and off it goes. Using Bitcoin I'd got to arse about scanning codes etc... And if I can't get a signal on my phone I can't send them.

Bitcoin is great, but so is the convenience and ease of using cash.


Every time I go to get coins from the shops they look at me like I am a terrorist. It is not convenient at all to go hunting all over town for coins either.
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December 20, 2013, 11:28:28 PM
#41
I'm still surprised that people are still singing and dancing about the risk of 0 confirmation transactions, or having to wait 10 minutes to buy a coffee, burger, laundromat token, etc.

There's plenty of topics on here and other websites that explain why no one would bother trying to double-spend attack such a small purchase, because it would take significant cost and effort to pull it off successfully.

There's only 2 things you need to do to stop the average person trying to double spend:
  • Be connected to the internet, listening to other bitcoin transactions
  • Check the transaction fee meets the protocol requirements

If you do those, then you're very safe. The cost for the "attacker" to double spend would far out weigh the reward of the the goods/services that they're attempting to steal from you.

Accepting 0 confirmation transactions is safer than credit card, and safer than coin operated machines that can be tampered with or raided in the absence of supervision.

you can hook all washing machine to basically a single mobile connection, but preferably you're gonna want a hard line.

this! if you fronted up the cost of a hard line you could have wifi running and attempt to charge people to use it while they're waiting for their washing... not sure if that would be successful these days where almost everyone has cheap mobile data.
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December 20, 2013, 11:18:27 PM
#40
I was sitting at the Laundrette with some clothes to wash after I had to go to the service station to get enough $1 coins to operate the machines when I realised how much easier it would have been if the washing machines and dryers had qr codes on a screen attached that worked when the right amount of bitcoins were sent to the machines.

So much easier than carrying bulk change around and you could also install a bitcoin atm there to get some bitcoins from. Waiting for confirmations wouldn't even be a problem since you are stuck there for however long it takes to wash your clothes....

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for Bitcoin and that, but I fail to see how using Bitcoin in this situation is easier than coins? I'd prefer to just shove some coins in and off it goes. Using Bitcoin I'd got to arse about scanning codes etc... And if I can't get a signal on my phone I can't send them.

Bitcoin is great, but so is the convenience and ease of using cash.


I always have my phone with me. I rarely have any coins in my pocket.
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December 20, 2013, 11:17:10 PM
#39
vending machine is btc killer application
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December 20, 2013, 11:10:52 PM
#38
I was sitting at the Laundrette with some clothes to wash after I had to go to the service station to get enough $1 coins to operate the machines when I realised how much easier it would have been if the washing machines and dryers had qr codes on a screen attached that worked when the right amount of bitcoins were sent to the machines.

So much easier than carrying bulk change around and you could also install a bitcoin atm there to get some bitcoins from. Waiting for confirmations wouldn't even be a problem since you are stuck there for however long it takes to wash your clothes....

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for Bitcoin and that, but I fail to see how using Bitcoin in this situation is easier than coins? I'd prefer to just shove some coins in and off it goes. Using Bitcoin I'd got to arse about scanning codes etc... And if I can't get a signal on my phone I can't send them.

Bitcoin is great, but so is the convenience and ease of using cash.
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December 20, 2013, 10:56:44 PM
#37
I had an idea whilst waiting at the drive thru of McDonalds. I thought, wouldn't it be cool if I could just scan a qr code and pay for my crappy burger?

Hopefully in the future we'll see all sorts of businesses and services accepting and implementing Bitcoin.

The fries would be cold and chewy by the time the transaction cleared Wink definitely need to get the transaction confirmation issue improved somehow ... the utility would increase massively

imagine you went to a macdonalds website selected your order and paid for it. and then at the drive thru you just shout out an order number and simply wait for them t bag up the fresh cooked fries and burger.

much the same as costa coffee. instead of lining up at the cashiers desk to make an order. you sit at the table. type your table number and order into the website/app. pay for it. and just wait for your name/order number to be called out to fetch your drink. or have the staff walk it over to your table.

pizza hut in the UK already have this where you can order your pizza for collection, put in the 10 minute timeslot. select to pay by card or cash.. and then just tell them your name when you arrive. to receive your piping hot pizza thats only atmost 5 minutes old. as oppose to 40 minutes old if you waited for delivery. all pizza hut needs to do is accept bitcoin, and it would be perfect
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