I think you attempted to sell that strategy, and all along people who used to be on PD saw that you were martingaling so it wasn't only 30 bets. You also posted an analysis of the strategy today in which you implied you were using martingale method. You also mentioned that your method was +EV when it wasn't so.
All in All you did fake advertising to sell a product/service. So you deserved that negative rating
Topic: An Open Letter to Legendary Member Dooglus - Request for Explanation & Response - page 2. (Read 1800 times)
December 03, 2014, 03:03:14 PM
December 03, 2014, 02:52:11 PM
So you say you tried to sell martingale strategy for 15 btc? Just for that you deserved negative trust
December 03, 2014, 10:44:52 AM
Dooglus,
I feel it necessary to bring to your attention a serious concern regarding your recent behavior, and to bring this issue to the BitcoinTalk Community, as a whole.
I feel your recent posting of 'public' negative trust to my profile, of which I find unwarranted and in no way justified considering the facts, gives me the right to bring my concerns to this public platform for me to voice my response.
The Negative Trust you posted to my account, which you did without us ever doing business, or even exchanging a private message, was as follows:
Attempted to sell a PrimeDice strategy, claiming:
"PrimeDice Strategy - 15 BTC Winnings in 24 Hrs - Limited Release" - "I'll be selling the guide including the Excel Worksheet - which calculates your strategy, bet size, payout factor, and bet size increase- on a Single Release - limited number basis, price based on the number of reasonable offers" - "Lastly, no this is not Martingale"
Not Martingale? Looks very much like it to me: http://s10.postimg.org/57jhwmfx5/image.jpg
Beware. There is no +EV strategy for -EV games.
Now, Considering these facts:
1.) I never sold any copies, took any payments, and NEVER claimed that the product I put together was a "sure fire winner". I stated clearly it was a strategy tool, and a worksheet, and not simple Martingale.
2.) I was open, honest, and replied to comments that the product simply creates alternative betting strategies, customized by the players bankroll, and playing style.
3.) You claim its just Martingale, simple as that, yet you have never seen the product, and are simply making assumptions based of a narrow view of my bets, wherein you gave an example of roughly 30 bets illustrating that Martingale is all I was doing.
4.) That said, I said publicly time and time again I was tuning my worksheet, and deviated from the strategy countless times to test different betting methods and view their outcomes. You've summed up my strategy on 30 bets where I believe Ive made hundreds of thousands of bets in total.
5.) Since you have not seen the product, nor viewed a larger snapshot of my bets, what information are you using to come to the conclusion that it's Martingale or not? I stated clearly it was a tool to create strategies. You could of course use it to devise a Martingale Strategy, but it does so much more. Regardless, you haven't seen it. So how are you providing this community with accurate information which should be trusted in your 'review'?
6.) All That I first offered, which I quickly took off the table and stated was no longer for sale, (within the first or second page) was that I was selling a strategy tool... Is that a crime? Does that constitute wrongdoing? And even if so, I ended up posting I had reconsidered and never took anyones money.
Dooglus, considering the above facts, I respectfully request that you respond and provide myself, and the community as a whole, a response as to why you felt publicly shaming me; by posting in a public forum that I am untrustworthy-- when you hadn't seen the product-- and it was well known I was no longer offering it for sale nor had I made any sales whatsoever to anyone-- that all of this and these facts, warranted or deserved your lashing out at me.
Dooglus, this is a public forum and a community, one which represents in many ways the entire Bitcoin community. If I am not mistaken this is a place where people are free to post ideas, ask questions, offer products for sale, even new products which may or may not be proven effective, a place to collaborate on new ideas, educate each other, and work together, all of us, in building a Bitcoin community we can be proud to be a part of.
I think you need to give serious thought to your behavior and to your approach on how you determine who warrants your Public Negative Trust Review.
While I am sure many bow to your Legendary Status, you are, as far as I know, not the BitcoinTalk Police.
In fact, reading your "Show Posts" under your Trust Profile makes me question whether or not you are even a benefit at all to this community at all. Your Trust Profile is filled with highly negative reviews and accusations of unscrupulous behavior. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3420
Public Trust is something that should be used for real cause, both positive and negative. It is not a platform or sounding board for your expression of free speech or to simply voice your opinion if you don't like or agree with what someone has to say.
Im asking you Dooglus, based first on this incident, which I find highly unprofessional, and secondly, after reviewing all of the negative Trust you yourself have accumulated on your profile, that perhaps it is time to step up and start actually being a Legendary Community Member.
Bitcoin has enough bad press Dooglus. You of all people should know that. I hope you take this post not as a condemnation but rather a humble request that myself, as well as what I would guess most of the community would ask that you be: A Leader. And a fair one who leads by example, does not pass judgement until such judgement is due, conducts himself responsibly and considers the weight of his actions, and the weight of his words.
It's you who's legendary Dooglus. Perhaps its time to make that legendary with a capital L.
Respectfully,
CD
I feel it necessary to bring to your attention a serious concern regarding your recent behavior, and to bring this issue to the BitcoinTalk Community, as a whole.
I feel your recent posting of 'public' negative trust to my profile, of which I find unwarranted and in no way justified considering the facts, gives me the right to bring my concerns to this public platform for me to voice my response.
The Negative Trust you posted to my account, which you did without us ever doing business, or even exchanging a private message, was as follows:
Attempted to sell a PrimeDice strategy, claiming:
"PrimeDice Strategy - 15 BTC Winnings in 24 Hrs - Limited Release" - "I'll be selling the guide including the Excel Worksheet - which calculates your strategy, bet size, payout factor, and bet size increase- on a Single Release - limited number basis, price based on the number of reasonable offers" - "Lastly, no this is not Martingale"
Not Martingale? Looks very much like it to me: http://s10.postimg.org/57jhwmfx5/image.jpg
Beware. There is no +EV strategy for -EV games.
Now, Considering these facts:
1.) I never sold any copies, took any payments, and NEVER claimed that the product I put together was a "sure fire winner". I stated clearly it was a strategy tool, and a worksheet, and not simple Martingale.
2.) I was open, honest, and replied to comments that the product simply creates alternative betting strategies, customized by the players bankroll, and playing style.
3.) You claim its just Martingale, simple as that, yet you have never seen the product, and are simply making assumptions based of a narrow view of my bets, wherein you gave an example of roughly 30 bets illustrating that Martingale is all I was doing.
4.) That said, I said publicly time and time again I was tuning my worksheet, and deviated from the strategy countless times to test different betting methods and view their outcomes. You've summed up my strategy on 30 bets where I believe Ive made hundreds of thousands of bets in total.
5.) Since you have not seen the product, nor viewed a larger snapshot of my bets, what information are you using to come to the conclusion that it's Martingale or not? I stated clearly it was a tool to create strategies. You could of course use it to devise a Martingale Strategy, but it does so much more. Regardless, you haven't seen it. So how are you providing this community with accurate information which should be trusted in your 'review'?
6.) All That I first offered, which I quickly took off the table and stated was no longer for sale, (within the first or second page) was that I was selling a strategy tool... Is that a crime? Does that constitute wrongdoing? And even if so, I ended up posting I had reconsidered and never took anyones money.
Dooglus, considering the above facts, I respectfully request that you respond and provide myself, and the community as a whole, a response as to why you felt publicly shaming me; by posting in a public forum that I am untrustworthy-- when you hadn't seen the product-- and it was well known I was no longer offering it for sale nor had I made any sales whatsoever to anyone-- that all of this and these facts, warranted or deserved your lashing out at me.
Dooglus, this is a public forum and a community, one which represents in many ways the entire Bitcoin community. If I am not mistaken this is a place where people are free to post ideas, ask questions, offer products for sale, even new products which may or may not be proven effective, a place to collaborate on new ideas, educate each other, and work together, all of us, in building a Bitcoin community we can be proud to be a part of.
I think you need to give serious thought to your behavior and to your approach on how you determine who warrants your Public Negative Trust Review.
While I am sure many bow to your Legendary Status, you are, as far as I know, not the BitcoinTalk Police.
In fact, reading your "Show Posts" under your Trust Profile makes me question whether or not you are even a benefit at all to this community at all. Your Trust Profile is filled with highly negative reviews and accusations of unscrupulous behavior. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3420
Public Trust is something that should be used for real cause, both positive and negative. It is not a platform or sounding board for your expression of free speech or to simply voice your opinion if you don't like or agree with what someone has to say.
Im asking you Dooglus, based first on this incident, which I find highly unprofessional, and secondly, after reviewing all of the negative Trust you yourself have accumulated on your profile, that perhaps it is time to step up and start actually being a Legendary Community Member.
Bitcoin has enough bad press Dooglus. You of all people should know that. I hope you take this post not as a condemnation but rather a humble request that myself, as well as what I would guess most of the community would ask that you be: A Leader. And a fair one who leads by example, does not pass judgement until such judgement is due, conducts himself responsibly and considers the weight of his actions, and the weight of his words.
It's you who's legendary Dooglus. Perhaps its time to make that legendary with a capital L.
Respectfully,
CD
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