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March 31, 2011, 02:12:30 AM
#38

Which is a problem, because I'm reluctant to tell a member of the general population that I'm an 'anarchist' for fear of what they think anarchy means (like I did), because they watch mainstream news.
So tell them you are a voluntarist.
Them - "I've never heard that word before, what does it mean"
You - /Explain Anarchy  Cool
Them - "Sounds reasonable"

+1.  Yes, I've found "Voluntaryist" to be a much more palatable for introducing our ideas to most people.  At least you can have a reasonable discussion.  Just be sure to avoid mentioning the "A" word, and if it does come about, you can distance yourself from it.
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March 29, 2011, 05:10:21 AM
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I would suggest, with at least 90% certainty, that many of the "anarchists" are in fact actually real anarchists. They probably object to the fact that everyday they, and everyone else, is either threatened with violence, or actually has violence used against them. You do what the state says, or else you get hurt,  locked up, or even killed.

When someone uses or threatens the use of violence everyday, and you don't react, maybe there is something wrong with you?
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March 29, 2011, 02:45:44 AM
#36

Which is a problem, because I'm reluctant to tell a member of the general population that I'm an 'anarchist' for fear of what they think anarchy means (like I did), because they watch mainstream news.
So tell them you are a voluntarist.
Them - "I've never heard that word before, what does it mean"
You - /Explain Anarchy  Cool
Them - "Sounds reasonable"
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March 29, 2011, 02:40:18 AM
#35
I would suggest, with at least 90% certainty, that many of the "anarchists" are in fact actually real anarchists. They probably object to the fact that everyday they, and everyone else, is either threatened with violence, or actually has violence used against them. You do what the state says, or else you get hurt,  locked up, or even killed.

When someone uses or threatens the use of violence everyday, and you don't react, maybe there is something wrong with you?

Certainly some of them, probably even the majority.  But they are the pawns in the game.  The useful idiots.  Those who have an ideological goal are predominately some variation of marxist/socialist/collectivist. 
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March 29, 2011, 02:36:35 AM
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March 28, 2011, 12:35:56 AM
#33
In conclusion: Don't believe everything you see on the Corporate Mainstream News.

I have a better advice:  just don't watch corporate mainstream news.  Especially TV.

Pictures are most often selected, edited, sometimes scenarized.  They are misleading.

Also: now when something happens at 10,000 miles away, you know it immediately, as if such an event had direct implication in your life.  Usually it doesn't.  The result is that you get anxious for no reason.  Just turn your TV of, dump it or sell it, whatever.  Just take care of your own life first.


Agreed. Turning off the idiot box is really the best solution.
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March 28, 2011, 12:04:24 AM
#32
In conclusion: Don't believe everything you see on the Corporate Mainstream News.

I have a better advice:  just don't watch corporate mainstream news.  Especially TV.

Pictures are most often selected, edited, sometimes scenarized.  They are misleading.

Which is a problem, because I'm reluctant to tell a member of the general population that I'm an 'anarchist' for fear of what they think anarchy means (like I did), because they watch mainstream news.
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March 28, 2011, 12:01:39 AM
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Could someone describe said picture in a non-offensive way (for those of us like me that missed it)?

Nevermind...

No, you don't.  Unless you are a gay gerontophile.
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March 27, 2011, 11:46:39 PM
#30
In conclusion: Don't believe everything you see on the Corporate Mainstream News.

I have a better advice:  just don't watch corporate mainstream news.  Especially TV.

Pictures are most often selected, edited, sometimes scenarized.  They are misleading.

Also: now when something happens at 10,000 miles away, you know it immediately, as if such an event had direct implication in your life.  Usually it doesn't.  The result is that you get anxious for no reason.  Just turn your TV of, dump it or sell it, whatever.  Just take care of your own life first.
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March 27, 2011, 07:14:04 PM
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Anyways, back on topic. Most of the Anarchists you see breaking stuff and the like are probably police provocateurs. Police officers were caught red handed dressed in 'anarchist' attire and doing destructive things like setting things on fire at the Toronto G20 protest. They were outted when protesters started noticing they were wearing the same police issued combat boots as the riot police. When protesters surrounded them they jumped behind police lines. It was later admitted in a press conference they were indeed undercover cops. This is a VERY common tactic used to make a protests seem illegitimate. Same thing happened in London with the Muslim protests, the ones where 'muslims' were holding up signs saying things like 'kill people who say islam is evil'. But if you look closely, you'll notice every violent and offensive sign was written in the exact same hand writing(meaning ONE PERSON made them all), and everyone holding one has their face covered. You can google image search 'london muslim protests' and see for yourself. Governor Walker also floated the idea during the Wisconsin Union protests to use provocateurs to make the protests seem illegitimate, he was caught saying this on a recorded phone call. 

In conclusion: Don't believe everything you see on the Corporate Mainstream News.
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March 27, 2011, 06:55:14 PM
#28
by moderating your own forum, you just fracture statism into mini states.

This is a private forum and we are only guests.

This is a private internet and we are only guests.
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March 27, 2011, 06:38:57 PM
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[removed offensive picture]

Could someone describe said picture in a non-offensive way (for those of us like me that missed it)?
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March 27, 2011, 01:10:05 PM
#26
by moderating your own forum, you just fracture statism into mini states.

This is a private forum and we are only guests.
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March 27, 2011, 01:02:40 PM
#25
by moderating your own forum, you just fracture statism into mini states.

I'm totally ok with mini states.  The more, the better.

Moreover, on internet when you're not happy with the rules on some website, it is easy and painless to leave and to go somewhere else.  Things are different IRL.
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March 27, 2011, 12:53:58 PM
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by moderating your own forum, you just fracture statism into mini states.

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March 27, 2011, 12:51:27 PM
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Do I even want to know?

No, you don't.  Unless you are a gay gerontophile.
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March 27, 2011, 12:49:52 PM
#22
To be honest, I am current at home, sitting in my chair working with my kids running around, my younger son saw this. I am pissed, because I did not expect this. Now, I must explain to him why there are Idiots in the world.

I must leave for awhile, until this is corrected. He succeeded in censoring my speech.

You might consider using text-mode browser.

Problem is that you see pictures only if you click on them, and then you see them fullscreen, which is worse, in a sense Sad
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March 27, 2011, 12:48:51 PM
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images.encyclopediadramatica.com. Ad-blocked that one a long time ago

Do I even want to know?
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March 27, 2011, 12:45:44 PM
#20
To be honest, I am current at home, sitting in my chair working with my kids running around, my younger son saw this. I am pissed, because I did not expect this. Now, I must explain to him why there are Idiots in the world.

I must leave for awhile, until this is corrected. He succeeded in censoring my speech.
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March 27, 2011, 12:42:57 PM
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Now, lets see how "anarchist" handle it.  Shall they become Censors, Pragmatic, Conservative, or be for a totally open system.  Something tells me it might go like this, "While we appreciate your right for freedom of speech, such speech must be grouped into Threads in order to maintain some semblance of proper communications on subjects."


This has very little to do with anarchy.  If this guy wants to post this kind of picture, he can.  But somewhere else.

Just as nobody would blame you if you kick out of your house someone who craped on your sofa, nobody would blame the moderators of this forum to evict someone who post these kinds of pictures.

PS.  as soon as I saw this picture, I immediately personnaly reported it with this comment:  "useless offensive picture"


You are correct, my house is private. But what if it was a public space. Someone "owns" this forum, I am curious as to what the "Owner" will do.

Curious though, what if this guy was holding up this picture in a public place. How does one handle it?  I think we will group together into a system of morals and decide. I have a feeling, the decision has been made, just not enforced yet.

Point Being, Not all censorship from public places is bad. Certain things should remain in private places.
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