Topic: [ANN] [888] [SCRYPT] OctoCoin ◦ The Power of Eight ◦ Don't Blink - page 49. (Read 297707 times)

i'll agree with you on that. the devs interaction, even from one dev, on a normal basis could fix quite a bit. not making timelines and promises and breaking them and disappearing would solve a lot of this. a screen shot of the apps would solve a lot of this.

how about this though, anyone ever stopped to think maybe the devs do this on purpose? i'm not going to go into any reasons why devs would do this but it's a fairly common practice and investment strategy. plenty of other coins have had devs suppress before.

Hard to disagree with what djslick is saying. Doesn’t prove anything one way or the other, but I don’t think he’s wrong. I thought the same thing when I heard the millions of lines of code thing. Sounded absurd.

But maybe it’s legit and bholzer’s explanation is right. Even if so, the devs here don’t get the benefit of the doubt when making new claims, at least not in my book. They need to earn the benefit of the doubt. And they haven’t. I don't think they understand that.


If the devs want there to not be negativity in the thread, they need to do something about it. Not say something reassuring for the umpteenth time. They’re in the process of pissing away this once very positive community.

welcome...

lol it's true. could it be tunnel vision maybe? do the devs here have issues with communicating and keeping members of this board happy of course. are there any indicators that they have had any way to profit and rip us off? no. really the burden of proof is on anyone who says otherwise. while people may not like the devs methods on many things, including missing timelines then ignoring us, there hasn't been any way for them to dump and profit while we are all left high and dry. the support for that argument just isn't there. i have zero contact with the devs since the first month the coin launched so i have no idea about their methods, reasoning or excuses. i do know that if i were in their position i would try to handle things differently. i just have done enough research and talked with enough other members of this board to know that it's extremely stupid to dump at this point. and scolding the devs does no good. hold, patience, wait. it's risky but so is dumping and missing out based on little to no info that points to a scam and very much emotional responses because the devs aren't doing things the way we would like.

anyways, i personally hope you both stick around but nobody is really going to care if people dump and move on.

oh and when i said advice to get out, i didn't mean like to get out of the convo, or leave the board, i meant to get out of the currency if you aren't comfy holding. def didn't mean for it to come off rude as it sounded lol.

mining this from time to time on multipool

and i will agree with what you said as far as being one of the most supportive members of this community. i won't go back to read your posts but i do not remember anything really negative or bad from you. so once again, difference of opinion and strategy of investing. that is all. nothing personal.

That made me laugh, just because of what I just said about greed and tunnel vision

DJslick your my favourite  

unfortunately what he is saying is correct. greed leads to tunnel vision which leads to naïvety.  I'm seen this many times in myself when it came to trading (stocks, forex) and in stories from people when they have been conned, what you do is get the mark/s to think about the millions they will bring in and how they will spend it, and then they see but choose to ignore the reality of the situation

Dude, even without seeing the actual products, if you really look into who's backing this and do some research you will see why so many are sticking around. I could care less what the fuck you do. I just know that i'm holding.

if you don't like it, then dump it. nobody is forcing you to be here or buy and hold Octo.

We all wish there was more transparency from the devs, including me, but if you can't figure out why people are staying then you don't need to stay invested in Octo.

I don't have any personal issues with you and you've always seemed like a good enough guy from your posts. I understand your frustration and your opinion but after this I'm not wasting my breath trying to convince you. Sell your coins and move on dude lol.

If I'm wrong, then there are people here that are going to lose a lot more $$$ than the 200,000 Octo I have so fuck it. I have plenty of money invested all over alts, Bitcoin and Bitcoin 2.0. I'll be fine if Octo ends up being a flop.

I can't show you proof from the devs but I can gladly offer you advice to get out.

Seeya.

"well you've been invested this long, why not hang around and see what happens?" - spoken like a true conman.

"development is hard stuff! you have to do this and that and the other thing, we should ignore the fact that they've produced nothing in over 6 months, cause developing is hard!" - spoken like a true apologist

"i've spoken with these devs personally, and i can tell you, they're the real deal" - spoken like a true traveling snake oil salesman

one lesson i've learned over and over in life, and repeatedly bashed into my head whist in crypto, is don't believe shit that strangers are trying to tell you is real when they offer no proof, when asking them for proof gets them defensive, and when they are personally invested in weather or not i see it as truth.

get real.

again, this idea that "well this guy or that guy wouldn't bet their reputation on it if it wasn't legit" and "many people have done digging and have found this to be a viable investment". so? then show me some proof!

all we have is poor communication, broken promises, and vaporware. it really does reflect the sorry state that this community has reached, that people have obviously invested so much that they HAVE to believe that octocoin will be amazing. you should all be aware of the blinders that you might be wearing because of this fact.

these notions that: "well they haven't shown us anything, but you know, YOU CAN TELL WHEN SOMEONE IS SCAMMING YOU". needs to go out the window. give me a break. you underestimate how many times good people have been made to part with their hard-earned money through the exact same thing in crypto, altcoins especially.

SHOW ME SOMETHING.

when i ask for some evidence of a team working on this, you tell me "they don't respond well to nagativity" well guess what, they don't respond well to positivity too! this is one of the nicest altcoin communities i've ever seen. and what do we get?

what, they fixed a problem with random rewards that should never have even been there in the first place? they did this 5 months ago? we should be thankful for this and consider this the high-water mark of reputable devs? I helped ID the culprit and negotiated (out of my own pocket mind you) some time that the offending pool would stop exploiting the code, but it should never have been an issue in the first place!

(and by the way bholzer, you must have a poor memory, because i was helping octocoin one-on-one with resolving the issue, but thanks for painting me like someone who "wrote them off completely" fucking liar. i've been one of the most supportive members of this community)

Leafcoin had this problem first, which was a clone of Dogecoin, of which the issue cropped up shortly thereafter, and after both of those coins fixed it, THEN octo decides to launch with the EXACT same vulnerability. they could have asked anyone in the know and they could have told them it was a bad idea. it was! and then they fixed it. mazel tov. cleaning up your own shit doesn't earn you points in my book, it only props up the veneer of professionalism that octocoin really wants (needs) to keep holding up.

the problem is that nothing has been done! vaporware! fake products, community being strung along with fake release schedules, NOTHING! we have 2 websites, that's it. i'd say that the community who's come up with custom made glasses has been WAY more transparent and WAY more productive than the octocoin "team". shit we saw photographs of the project, UNHEARD OF.

again PROVE ME WRONG.

don't write back here a bunch of stuff about how this guy says "they're cool man don't worry", or how that guy says: "hey i'm staking my reputation on them, they're obviously the real deal" GET REAL AND SHOW US SOMETHING. stop talking in circles.

p.p.s if i do make it to vegas somebody is buying me 8 mf'ing beers for contributing such long posts to this board for 6 months. that is all.

p.s. don't forget that on sundays we will do the conference calls. come in there and voice your opinions. there was some good convo last week. if anything you will realize there are some really smart dudes here on the board who have dug deep into octo and are still here. i'm not a dev or coder but i'm smart enough to listen to those with a better understanding than me. and it's also fun to see some faces and hear some voices. (even if you can't tell the difference between joshycoin and i with our thick southern accents hehe.)

i hope i'm in a position to go regardless! but i really would need some return on octo. however, even if it hits prices where i could cash out enough to get to vegas i think it would be stupid to dump. you never know what any investment will turn into down the road and some of these will serve you better to hold long term. people haven't cashed outta bitcoin because it hit $1300 last year. they know that $10,000 is right around the corner. they also know that it can go way higher and you may never want to cash out to dollars or any other currency if it's widespread adoption turns it into more of a currency. i think with all of the political and social issues surrounding governments and fiat your best bet is to only cash out when you need and to be sure to have paper wallets and multiple encrypted copies of keys on different servers worldwide. this way no matter what happens to electricity, internet or even an EMP bomb, you can access your money once you get back to somewhere with power and internet. just a thought.

as for this board, i enjoy talking to you guys. i get just as frustrated as the next with the devs but from all of our research, it appears that it's not a scamcoin.

as for bholzer, he's all we've had like it or not. true, you can never know anyone's intentions, but common sense tells you  he's not going to risk his rep as a business owner and dev of his own projects, by backing up some loser scamcoin chumps. i have never really talked to bholzer even outside of this board but it's not rocket science to figure out when someone is scamming you. the octo devs and bholzer both have leaked things that point to a long term project and i don't think either would risk it for some small change profit. it just doesn't make sense even more than it doesn't make sense that the octo dev team would appoint a liaison to update the board.

i don't know why they do what they do but they show up when necessary. and honestly, anyone who knows anything about investment, if they weren't moving along nicely, investors would pull their funding. if that happened you would notice a certain type of movement and realize that it was over. the way it's set up currently they can't cash out for a decent profit anyways. they would be at just as much if not more of a loss than the average octo holder.

just my 2 cents. it doesn't always make sense around this board but i'm comfy holding and seeing what happens. dumping at this point would prove to be a waste of time and effort for the last few months. as soon as you do, if octo does deliver you have lost your chance at making any profit and good luck in the sea of other bs altcoins.

the only thing that truly worries me about octo is the threat of some other decent coins, bitcoin 2.0 platforms or open transactions stealing shine from anything good they release. to me that's the real question: by the time they release something will it be relevant and will it catch on with their marketing? some things can be adjusted but you just don't know. there's too many possibilities to even speculate there so i just watch and hold. i am currently not buying octo and i still might get more down the road. i am limited on my purchasing power and feel it's a better option for me to diversify my portfolio.

it's interesting times and you are interesting fellows. 888.

Nice! Gonna be a good time!

I'm there regardless! Trying to get some of the Murraycoin people rallied as well.

 

I just want to say thank you to everyone for the entertainment they have provided us for the past few days. 
No matter what is really going on, I think it is kinda funny how worked up we all seem to be getting.
The amount we have invested is probably laughable compared to their private funding so let's not act like we've all invested tens of thousands.
Cryptos are gambling, and we all just need to take a step back and relax.

Hitting the casino tonight and I'm only gonna be throwing down 8 on Roulette!!!
888 baby!!!!

And no matter what happens to Octocoin, I'm still going to Vegas in March. Who's coming with me?!