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legendary
Activity: 1988
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Hello,
why my views are counted not correctly? I have 1200 impressions, but only 7 unique. My traffic comes from the domain that corresponds to the URL specified and my google analytics says 250 unique visitors.
This is the unit: https://a-ads.com/ad_units/86005

Thanks

Hi, this is a common question. Our metrics are different from Google's. Please see http://blog.anonymousads.com/2014/08/why-am-i-not-paid-for-clicks-what-is.html for details.

To tl;dr this, uniques are counted across the entire network, not just your sites. If someone visits Coindesk first that day and they have a-ads, that's who gets the unique, even if they view 10000 pages on your site after.
legendary
Activity: 1199
Merit: 1012
Hello,
why my views are counted not correctly? I have 1200 impressions, but only 7 unique. My traffic comes from the domain that corresponds to the URL specified and my google analytics says 250 unique visitors.
This is the unit: https://a-ads.com/ad_units/86005

Thanks

Hi, this is a common question. Our metrics are different from Google's. Please see http://blog.anonymousads.com/2014/08/why-am-i-not-paid-for-clicks-what-is.html for details.
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
Hello,
why my views are counted not correctly? I have 1200 impressions, but only 7 unique. My traffic comes from the domain that corresponds to the URL specified and my google analytics says 250 unique visitors.
This is the unit: https://a-ads.com/ad_units/86005

Thanks
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1026
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Well, that's true, if you have N ad units on your page, that doesn't mean you will earn N times more than if you had 1 ad unit, because amount of visitors you display ads to doesn't change. You can't multiply your income by just multiplying the number of ad units on your page.

I agree that it is a bit weird that if you have 2 ad units, the first one earns much more than the second one. Perhaps we could calculate amounts of unique impressions based on the publishers' pages, not on individual ad units, and distribute funds accordingly. That wouldn't increase the publisher's income, but would split it among publisher's ad units more evenly. So instead of getting 90% of your income from the first ad unit and 10% of your income from the second one, you would get 50% from the first one and 50% from the second one. But the total amount would be the same (100%). Is it what you want?

I do not want something...I just see and I analyse.
I could understand that a banner lost among other ones far down can make less money or less interest for advisters.
if you give all ads same income it will not be logic too.

I agree it's not easy.
but if I ask to miself questions about these differencies for few satoshi,I'm sure that advertisers do if they pay huge amount of money.

legendary
Activity: 1199
Merit: 1012
Someone wrote me and said:
do not put more than 1 a'ads on your page because the second does not make money...
it this is in mind of many publisher,they will go to concurrance compagnies.
And if advertisers think that the banners are not wiewed by unique visitors,then they will not pay for it.


Well, that's true, if you have N ad units on your page, that doesn't mean you will earn N times more than if you had 1 ad unit, because amount of visitors you display ads to doesn't change. You can't multiply your income by just multiplying the number of ad units on your page.

I agree that it is a bit weird that if you have 2 ad units, the first one earns much more than the second one. Perhaps we could calculate amounts of unique impressions based on the publishers' pages, not on individual ad units, and distribute funds accordingly. That wouldn't increase the publisher's income, but would split it among publisher's ad units more evenly. So instead of getting 90% of your income from the first ad unit and 10% of your income from the second one, you would get 50% from the first one and 50% from the second one. But the total amount would be the same (100%). Is it what you want?
legendary
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Thanks for your feedback!

Most of the time advertisers don't pick ad units manually, and their expenses are automatically being split between ad units with respect to their unique impressions. Amount of unique impressions doesn't depend on amount of ad units on your page. Perhaps the term "unique impression" is misleading and should be replaced with "unique visitors". And probably it would be better to display non-unique impressions to advertisers by default. Do you think it would solve the problem?


No I believe that unique visitor and unique impression is understood at the same level

the problematic stay the same if it is the advertiser who chose the ad space or a-ads system.
At my eyes...
I do not understand why for 2 ad spaces almost at the same place on a page the different income for the publisher and of course then so much difference for the advertising who pay.

Someone wrote me and said:
do not put more than 1 a'ads on your page because the second does not make money...
it this is in mind of many publisher,they will go to concurrance compagnies.
And if advertisers think that the banners are not wiewed by unique visitors,then they will not pay for it.



legendary
Activity: 1199
Merit: 1012
I'm now testing a-ads with 15 banners displaid on my sites.
I feel something wrong.
The system is certainly ok,but it is not understood by the advertisers.
(by the publishers certainly not undertand too,but I will only talk about advertisers)

The question is:
Are advertisers not manage well the a-ads system?
or
Is the a-ads system not enough  informative or do the information mislead the advertisers?

Example:(it's only an example)
I have on my site 2 banners almost at the same place.
For one a-ads say:100 unique views.
for the other close at it 10 unique views.
The advertisers are almost not interested by the 10 unuque.
All advertisers pay for the 100 unique
and almost nothing for the 10 unique.
For me if I see a page...with 2 banner spaces at the same place,the both spaces are worth the same.
But a-ads say indirectly to the advertisers that one is seeing 10 time more by unique visitors.

If I compare a-ads with other ads companies the difference is till bigger.
I have for two close spaces more advertisers and more incomes by other ads compagnies.
Why?
Certainly because if I have 5 banner spaces viewed by 100 unique visitors and a advertiser see 100 for 4 banner spaces and only 10 for one...he will pay for the 100 and not for the 10.

Banner spaces are not unlimited on a page...webmaster will go there where it is the best paid by advertisers...normal...
I believe if the difference I see on my sites is so big,it is why a-ads informations for advertisers is misunderstood and advertisers go to other compagnies...

Thanks for your feedback!

Most of the time advertisers don't pick ad units manually, and their expenses are automatically being split between ad units with respect to their unique impressions. Amount of unique impressions doesn't depend on amount of ad units on your page. Perhaps the term "unique impression" is misleading and should be replaced with "unique visitors". And probably it would be better to display non-unique impressions to advertisers by default. Do you think it would solve the problem?
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1026
Free WSPU2 Token or real dollars
I'm now testing a-ads with 15 banners displaid on my sites.
I feel something wrong.
The system is certainly ok,but it is not understood by the advertisers.
(by the publishers certainly not undertand too,but I will only talk about advertisers)

The question is:
Are advertisers not manage well the a-ads system?
or
Is the a-ads system not enough  informative or do the information mislead the advertisers?

Example:(it's only an example)
I have on my site 2 banners almost at the same place.
For one a-ads say:100 unique views.
for the other close at it 10 unique views.
The advertisers are almost not interested by the 10 unuque.
All advertisers pay for the 100 unique
and almost nothing for the 10 unique.
For me if I see a page...with 2 banner spaces at the same place,the both spaces are worth the same.
But a-ads say indirectly to the advertisers that one is seeing 10 time more by unique visitors.

If I compare a-ads with other ads companies the difference is till bigger.
I have for two close spaces more advertisers and more incomes by other ads compagnies.
Why?
Certainly because if I have 5 banner spaces viewed by 100 unique visitors and a advertiser see 100 for 4 banner spaces and only 10 for one...he will pay for the 100 and not for the 10.

Banner spaces are not unlimited on a page...webmaster will go there where it is the best paid by advertisers...normal...
I believe if the difference I see on my sites is so big,it is why a-ads informations for advertisers is misunderstood and advertisers go to other compagnies...


legendary
Activity: 1199
Merit: 1012
A-ads is a transparent service, everybody can see the traffic and financial stats of any advertising campaign or ad unit (e. g. here is the public page for ad unit #1: http://a-ads.com/ad_units/1 and here is the public page for campaign #1: https://a-ads.com/campaigns/1 ).

Do you think the information about user accounts should be transparent as well (perhaps except their usernames and emails)? It could be interesting to see the list of ad units and campaigns that belong to the same user. So should we have a public page for every user as we do for ad units and campaigns?
legendary
Activity: 1199
Merit: 1012
I love the captcha change, and think this helps alleviate my original issues. It brings more transparency to how much it's affecting us as publishers, which is huge. What captcha service is being used, btw?

Thanks for your feedback. We use Google's "no CAPTCHA reCAPTCHA" that is usually trivial to pass.



It may raise privacy concerns, but since the captcha is being loaded only after the visitor clicks the ad, it shouldn't be that a big problem. Ideally we'd use our own solution, but there are a lot of higher priority tasks right now.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Like if I enter a captcha amount as a publisher, is there a way to show something like this:

0% captcha - 10 advertisers (of a total 18 advertisers)

Which would automatically show the new numbers if I entered a different captcha rate:

25% captcha - 12 advertisers (of a total 18 advertisers)

or

100% captcha - 18 advertisers (of a total 18 advertisers)

I've tried playing around with the captcha rates myself, but I can't really tell what effects it's having on my ad unit.

Implemented. When publisher adjusts the Max captcha rate, estimated percentage of budget is being displayed:


Not sure how hard of a change it would be to add something like a "Remove all selected traffic sources" button, but it could be a helpful feature.

Implemented a "Reset" button in campaign's targeting section:


Thanks for helping us to improve a-ads!

I love the captcha change, and think this helps alleviate my original issues. It brings more transparency to how much it's affecting us as publishers, which is huge. What captcha service is being used, btw?
legendary
Activity: 1199
Merit: 1012
Thanks for kind words!
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
i have a very good expirience with a-ads.com..

I like your website it's really simple
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
Thank you, thank you, thank you!  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1199
Merit: 1012
Like if I enter a captcha amount as a publisher, is there a way to show something like this:

0% captcha - 10 advertisers (of a total 18 advertisers)

Which would automatically show the new numbers if I entered a different captcha rate:

25% captcha - 12 advertisers (of a total 18 advertisers)

or

100% captcha - 18 advertisers (of a total 18 advertisers)

I've tried playing around with the captcha rates myself, but I can't really tell what effects it's having on my ad unit.

Implemented. When publisher adjusts the Max captcha rate, estimated percentage of budget is being displayed:


Not sure how hard of a change it would be to add something like a "Remove all selected traffic sources" button, but it could be a helpful feature.

Implemented a "Reset" button in campaign's targeting section:


Thanks for helping us to improve a-ads!
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
That actually would suit my purposes, because funny enough I even tried to do this hoping it would remove all the individual sites in favour of the broad "all traffic", but it left all the other sites still on the list and then added in addition the "all traffic" category to the bottom. I was actually hoping it would swap the many sites for the one category like you suggested!
legendary
Activity: 1199
Merit: 1012
Hello again Smiley

So, I was trying some things out on one of my advertising campaigns and noticed there's no easy way to remove all selected traffic sources at once. I added quite a few sites as I was experimenting with budgets (I'm trying to find the best group of sites to advertise on matching my budget), but having to remove each site separately is very time consuming. Not sure how hard of a change it would be to add something like a "Remove all selected traffic sources" button, but it could be a helpful feature.

Thanks for listening to my suggestion!

Hi, thanks for your suggestion, I think such a button would be useful for advertisers!

But what happens if advertiser clicks this button but for some reason fails to add the traffic sources to the campaign's targeting?

E. g. this campaign: https://a-ads.com/campaigns/4027 (binarybase.co) has some balance that is not being spent (since 2014!) because its targeting is empty. I think the advertiser occasionally removed the traffic sources, and now we should either keep these money forever, or send them to the refund address or just add "All traffic" category and let it to be spent.

Maybe we should forbid empty targeting, and provide the "Reset" button instead (that would remove all the selected traffic sources with "All traffic" category).

Would you be satisfied with this solution?
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
Hello again Smiley

So, I was trying some things out on one of my advertising campaigns and noticed there's no easy way to remove all selected traffic sources at once. I added quite a few sites as I was experimenting with budgets (I'm trying to find the best group of sites to advertise on matching my budget), but having to remove each site separately is very time consuming. Not sure how hard of a change it would be to add something like a "Remove all selected traffic sources" button, but it could be a helpful feature.

Thanks for listening to my suggestion!
legendary
Activity: 1199
Merit: 1012
Wouldn't this not affect publisher rates at all? They're paid based on unique views of the ad block itself, not based on the ad being shown. So whether there is one ad shown or another, it shouldn't matter, should it?

Publishers get money from advertisers that target them. If publisher limits the captcha rate to 0%, but advertiser requires 1%, then that publisher won't fit the advertiser's targeting criteria (won't display that advertiser's ad and won't  earn from that advertiser).
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Yes, I'm aware as a publisher that I can set the captcha rate on my ad units to 0%. What is unclear however is how much advertiser revenues I would lose out on if I do so. It would be nice to have some sort of metric to look at that would show just how many advertisers are available to my ad unit at the different captcha rates. Like, it could show next to the box where publishers set our max captcha rate.

Something like the advertisers see when they put in their captcha rates, it shows how many ad units are connected at that %.

Like as an advertiser, I can see that at 0% captcha rate, my ad is connected to "~3521 ad units". If I raise the captcha % to 50%, this number increases to "~3534 ad units", then at 100% captcha rate, that number shown on the page increases to "~3533 ad units". This is automatically updated as I write in new percentages.

Would something like this be possible to show the publishers in a real time way? Something that would show how many advertisers are a match for our current ad unit based on our entered captcha rates?

Like if I enter a captcha amount as a publisher, is there a way to show something like this:

0% captcha - 10 advertisers (of a total 18 advertisers)

Which would automatically show the new numbers if I entered a different captcha rate:

25% captcha - 12 advertisers (of a total 18 advertisers)

or

100% captcha - 18 advertisers (of a total 18 advertisers)

I've tried playing around with the captcha rates myself, but I can't really tell what effects it's having on my ad unit.

Wouldn't this not affect publisher rates at all? They're paid based on unique views of the ad block itself, not based on the ad being shown. So whether there is one ad shown or another, it shouldn't matter, should it?
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