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Topic: [ANN] æternity blockchain ∞ AE TOKEN ∞ [PoW & PoS | Oracles | Smart Contracts] - page 292. (Read 274777 times)

newbie
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My question got buried so I'm going to ask it again, can anybody answer this for me please?

I just read the whitepaper and I don't understand the integration of the Oracle machine into the consensus mechanism.

It says that when there are competing counter claims the consensus mechanism for blocks will be used to answer the oracle. Where / who does the consensus mechanism get the answer from?

Hi Cryptorials,

Here is a document explaining the motivations of the oracle mechanism, and how it connects to the block consensus mechanism. https://github.com/aeternity/testnet/blob/master/docs/oracle_simple.md

Here I explain the step by step of how the oracle works https://github.com/aeternity/testnet/blob/master/docs/oracle_design.md

You are correct to analyze the oracle within the context of the block consensus mechanism. Every game is inside of a bigger game.
full member
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So for 1 Ether we will get 1100 (1000+100 Bonus) AE tokens in the first 24h. But what if someone like to buy AE tokens with Bitcoins only? You mention on your website "Fund the wallet with ETH (or view alternatives for contributions with other currencies, such as BTC or fiat)." Will funding the wallet with Bitcoins be similar like funding it with ETH? How many AE tokens+bonus do we get for 1 BTC then?
I am wondering the same, Aeternity is not an Ethereum dapp, why accepting ETH by default for the crowdsale? For the sake of token issuance?
We are working on also accepting BTC directly over the Bitcoin blockchain.
hero member
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Cryptorials.io
My question got buried so I'm going to ask it again, can anybody answer this for me please?

I just read the whitepaper and I don't understand the integration of the Oracle machine into the consensus mechanism.

It says that when there are competing counter claims the consensus mechanism for blocks will be used to answer the oracle. Where / who does the consensus mechanism get the answer from?
sr. member
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So for 1 Ether we will get 1100 (1000+100 Bonus) AE tokens in the first 24h. But what if someone like to buy AE tokens with Bitcoins only? You mention on your website "Fund the wallet with ETH (or view alternatives for contributions with other currencies, such as BTC or fiat)." Will funding the wallet with Bitcoins be similar like funding it with ETH? How many AE tokens+bonus do we get for 1 BTC then?
I am wondering the same, Aeternity is not an Ethereum dapp, why accepting ETH by default for the crowdsale? For the sake of token issuance?

Agreed, at the very least I'd like to see the later rounds where you say there would be 800 AE (or less) to be less in the case ETH drops, other wise people who invest months later could be getting more AE than me who invested in the first 24 hours just because the price of ETH dropped.

Hey,

We understand your concerns and they will be taking into consideration before Phase 2 begins.

Regards,
Vlad
sr. member
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devs, any news about start of crowdsale? And please update bounty campaign.

Hey,

Here is the contribution campaign information.

Regards,
Vlad
full member
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Where did you read this info?
full member
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Interesting project, I'll be watching it closely.
Hope it goes well
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Phase 1 — Public “Friends, Family and Real Innovators” Round
Starting on April 3rd, 13:05 GMT and lasting for 3 days [72 hours] until April 6th, 13:05 GMT. During this period, 1 ETH contribution will receive 1000 AE tokens. Anyone can participate!
Launch bonus for phase one: 100 (hundred) AE bonus per 1 ETH send in the first 24h!

1. I am confusing about the blog, so it means we can get 1100(1000+100 bonus) AE tokens in the first 24h, right?

INCUBATION PHASE
There will be 45 days in between phase 1 and phase 2.

SECOND CONTRIBUTION PHASE — EVOLUTION
FOR EARLY ADOPTERS
Start time: 45 days after the completion of phase 1 (target date).
Duration: 3 weeks.

2. so Phase 2 will happen in middle of June, and will end in end of July. So it means the signature and social media campaign will run until July? People need to post 10 per week from now to end of July just hunt for 350000 AE?? Too few. I wanted to join, but I found it is too low according to the new rule.

I have the same doubt, I care about the campaign still ends on April, like stated in the doc below, or they will extend the campaign to July.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V6x99z5yJ1uBhDEpl2LoEicZl5JWQM-Q96tWun6dBhA/edit?usp=sharing

Only 6 participants in this sheet? when did the sign campaign started?

It will be great if the AE tokens is based on BTC rather than ETH. The price of ETH is skyrocket now
hero member
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Cryptorials.io
I just read the whitepaper and I don't understand the integration of the Oracle machine into the consensus mechanism.

It says that when there are competing counter claims the consensus mechanism for blocks will be used to answer the oracle. Where / who does the consensus mechanism get the answer from?
legendary
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Enterapp Pre-Sale Live - bit.ly/3UrMCWI
I want to joined social network campaign sir
thank you

Soon! Smiley

Where can I see the road map? What's the official communication channel of the team?

Please catch them at Slack, telegram


devs, any news about start of crowdsale? And please update bounty campaign.

Answer of question #1:

Please find detail here:

Hello everyone!

We would like to inform you that the backing campaign details are out.

You can find out how you can receive AE tokens in exchange for your support for the æternity blockchain.

Get the details in this blog post by Yanislav, æternity's founder.

Regards,
The Æternity Team

Please clarify your second question?
hero member
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devs, any news about start of crowdsale? And please update bounty campaign.
member
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I want to joined social network campaign sir
thank you

Soon! Smiley

Where can I see the road map? What's the official communication channel of the team?

full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
I want to joined social network campaign sir
thank you

Soon! Smiley

Where can I see the road map? What's the official communication channel of the team?
newbie
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Guys, we thought of doing uncapped, but 3 days only for the first phase of the contribution campaign. This is in order to have more network effects among the users and not to have just a few big ones. Let us know what you think. We are here to discuss a nice, pleasant campaign with you.

To quote Daniel Zakrisson, in his article "ICO 2.0 — what is the ideal ICO?"

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Combining the viewpoints above gives us the following elements for an “ideal” ICO:
  • Scam protection
  • Technology check
  • Proof of ability to execute
  • Business viability check
  • Efficient use of funds and business-based thresholds for minimum and maximum raise
  • A defined legal framework
  • A transparent ICO process
  • Escrow
  • Controlled release of funds
  • Delayed founder liquidity
https://medium.com/iconominet/ico-2-0-what-is-the-ideal-ico-ee9d285a8939

As someone who has contributed to a number of projects in this space, this is my 2c:

I agree with Daniel Zakrisson, as I think most investors would, that it's important to set a cap based on what you actually think you need for your business. The absence of a cap raises questions about the venture's credibility. If you're simply willing to "take what you can get" (either too low OR too high), then is shows a lack of due diligence in understanding "business-based" resources required to make the project a success.

If you raise too much, you're diluting the value of the project out the gate, and setting the bar unnecessarily high for the project to gain value. The adage heard often in business holds true here: "under commit and over deliver". If you raise significantly more than other projects in this space, you will be viewed as having made a very large implicit commitment to the community. The bar will be set very high, which is not a good place to be in the early stages of your development.

In the long run, a low/reasonable raise, followed by exceptional execution, is more likely to earn investor trust; this is likely to cause your project to rise in value more quickly, and be worth more in the long run.

I would think the highest appropriate cap would match the max raised in Ethereum's ICO (~$18M USD). Many investors are going to valuate this project against Ethereum anyway due to the similarities of the project and Yani's relationship with Vitalik. I think a more attractive cap for investors, and a safer raise in terms of justification of resources required, would be $7.5M to $10M.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest_funded_crowdfunding_projects

Another reason I would say a cap is a must now is that (more) VC's (e.g. Blockchain Capital) have very recently begun backing crypto projects. As one of the first projects that I imagine will be both available and attractive to the new VC's, your project is very likely to be over-bought if uncapped, and susceptible to the problems mentioned above.

https://www.wired.com/2017/03/initial-coin-offering-stock-thats-not-stock/

Lastly, I don't understand the point of a "Friends, Family and Real Innovators" contribution period, unless there is some way to validate those individuals. If anyone can invest during that period, then it seems to be misnamed, and the question of a cap is as relevant here, as it is to the whole project.

I'm extremely excited about your project, and look forward to April 3rd!


legendary
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Enterapp Pre-Sale Live - bit.ly/3UrMCWI
Was there an article / blog post bounty? I thought I remembered there was going to be one but I'm not sure.

Please follow this link: OFFICIAL æternity blockchain bounty campaign OFFICIAL
hero member
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Cryptorials.io
Was there an article / blog post bounty? I thought I remembered there was going to be one but I'm not sure.
member
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So for 1 Ether we will get 1100 (1000+100 Bonus) AE tokens in the first 24h. But what if someone like to buy AE tokens with Bitcoins only? You mention on your website "Fund the wallet with ETH (or view alternatives for contributions with other currencies, such as BTC or fiat)." Will funding the wallet with Bitcoins be similar like funding it with ETH? How many AE tokens+bonus do we get for 1 BTC then?
I am wondering the same, Aeternity is not an Ethereum dapp, why accepting ETH by default for the crowdsale? For the sake of token issuance?

Agreed, at the very least I'd like to see the later rounds where you say there would be 800 AE (or less) to be less in the case ETH drops, other wise people who invest months later could be getting more AE than me who invested in the first 24 hours just because the price of ETH dropped.
hero member
Activity: 762
Merit: 500
So for 1 Ether we will get 1100 (1000+100 Bonus) AE tokens in the first 24h. But what if someone like to buy AE tokens with Bitcoins only? You mention on your website "Fund the wallet with ETH (or view alternatives for contributions with other currencies, such as BTC or fiat)." Will funding the wallet with Bitcoins be similar like funding it with ETH? How many AE tokens+bonus do we get for 1 BTC then?
I am wondering the same, Aeternity is not an Ethereum dapp, why accepting ETH by default for the crowdsale? For the sake of token issuance?
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